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Unidentified Jedi (Endar Spire)
- Requested By: Imperators II
- Date Requested: 10:09, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- Date Archived: 06:12, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
Object
- What's the basis for the "may also appear" in the last sentence of the BTS? Seems like either the Jedi does appear in the light side ending of the game or does not.
- It seems to be the same issue as the changing face on the Endar Spire. If Revan has this face, the LS-ending NPC won't. RogueWhistler (talk) 15:17, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
- This should be clarified in the text then. Imperators II(Talk) 10:44, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
- It seems to be the same issue as the changing face on the Endar Spire. If Revan has this face, the LS-ending NPC won't. RogueWhistler (talk) 15:17, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
- Also, the phrasing about playing a canonically-correct game seems... weird. Why does it even need to be there in the first place?
- It's phrased a bit oddly, mechanically there can't be overlap at all. I think it's trying to say that, because Revan is male, this face can't be his, and therefore this will be the Endar Spire Jedi's canonical appearance. RogueWhistler (talk) 15:17, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah, I don't think I understand what's meant by "overlap" there at all, plus, beside the fact that Revan was established to have been male, it might be worth noting that he was eventually established to specifically have had one of the available faces IIRC. And also, there's gotta be a better way to phrase it so that it doesn't talk about "playing a canonically-correct game" (?). Imperators II(Talk) 10:44, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
- It's phrased a bit oddly, mechanically there can't be overlap at all. I think it's trying to say that, because Revan is male, this face can't be his, and therefore this will be the Endar Spire Jedi's canonical appearance. RogueWhistler (talk) 15:17, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
- Actually, can it be confirmed that the KOTOR Campaign Guide confirms Revan as a male? Out of three sources used up until now to reference that fact on Revan's article I just had to remove one since it only indicated the pronouns used to refer to Revan, not his gender. So now I'm skeptical about the other sources listed as well :P. If that book doesn't actually support that, the Revan novel (in its dramatis personae) does at least. Imperators II(Talk) 10:44, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
- It feels to me that the Prima guide "your own Jedi masters" (emphasis mine) bit should actually be taken that this Jedi was a teacher of Revan's, if not necessarily Revan's Jedi Master. Imperators II(Talk) 10:44, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
Comments
- Sent to probation due to second-round objections hitting 1 month unaddressed.—spookywillowwtalk 03:54, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
- I've added the "may also appear" sentence in Behind the Scenes. I happened to notice the same face as the Endar Spire Jedi but it was on a modded playthrough with the KotOR 1 Restoration Mod, so I wasn't sure if that was in the actual game or affected by the mod. I've only played vanilla KotOR once, before playing with K1R, and back then I happened to use the same appearance for my character as the Endar Spire Jedi, which surprised me after I've read this article for the first time. As I've never played unmodded KotOR since then, I couldn't verify it any further. If not the image I happened to come across, which confirmed my earlier K1R sighting in an assumably vanilla playthrough, I wouldn't have added the sentence in the first place. — BabylonAS 07:53, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
Vote to retain Good status
Vote to strip Good status
Second-round objections from April 6th outstanding.—spookywillowwtalk 21:19, 6 June 2023 (UTC)- Fan26 (Talk) 00:15, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
- Imperators II(Talk) 06:12, 7 June 2023 (UTC)