Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/Wef

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Wef

  • Nominated by: UberSoldat93 19:27, December 11, 2019 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Waited until Target Vader finished its run to nominate this one. Hopefully, they don't appear in any comics coming in the near future.

(4 ACs/3 Users/7 Total)

Support

  1. Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 16:44, December 17, 2019 (UTC)
  2. Zed42 (talk) 17:07, January 6, 2020 (UTC)
  3. ACvote Objections handled via IRC. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 10:12, January 20, 2020 (UTC)
  4. LordMominutiae (talk) 01:05, January 22, 2020 (UTC)
  5. ACvote Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 16:12, January 29, 2020 (UTC)
  6. ACvote Objections handled via IRC. Ayrehead02 (talk) 12:35, February 9, 2020 (UTC)
  7. ACvote Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:08, February 24, 2020 (UTC)

Object

Ben
  • You should whiten out the speech bubbles in order to make them look less distracting in the images. Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 16:21, December 17, 2019 (UTC)
    • Done. I left out the second image since it doesn't look too distracting and fits the context of the caption in my opinion, unless you would like that changed too. UberSoldat93 (talk) 16:39, December 17, 2019 (UTC)
      • No that's fine. Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 16:43, December 17, 2019 (UTC)
        • If I may add, the image policy states that text in speech bubbles should be left in if the bubble is intact, which is true in this case. Zed42 (talk) 06:51, December 18, 2019 (UTC)
          • Now I'm uncertain of what to do here, I'll await an admin's word on this. UberSoldat93 (talk) 19:10, December 18, 2019 (UTC)
          • I have restored the text in the speech bubbles now. UberSoldat93 (talk) 07:28, December 23, 2019 (UTC)
Zed
  • Similar thing to Xonr regarding the usage of "they" and "their."
  • Valance needs context in the Biography.
  • I'm not sure if the Biography is long enough to have multiple subsections. Typically, that's done when each subsection has at least two paragraphs. Zed42 (talk) 19:26, December 31, 2019 (UTC)
  • The events of Valance's hunt can be dated more specifically to "by 3 ABY."
  • Could you provide context for why the Formidable visited the outpost?
  • You could probably briefly mention the merchandise Wef intended to sell in the Equipment section.
  • Wef has enough dialogue to add quotes to the Personality and traits and Equipment sections. Zed42 (talk) 15:28, January 6, 2020 (UTC)
  • You should expand the part about Wef working for the Hidden Hand. It's mentioned that Wef's business improved after accepting the deal, and you could also mention that Wef met a number of different Hidden Hand go-betweens.
  • Since Wef was contacted by the Rebellion before the bounty hunters arrived, that should be written from Wef's point of view and placed earlier.
  • There's already an image category for Wef, so it can be added to the page. Zed42 (talk) 16:35, January 6, 2020 (UTC)
Toprawa
  • In this instance, it's unnecessary for the main infobox image to crop off any part of the character's profile, either vertically or horizontally. This may be fairly minor, but I'd like to see the image reuploaded with a wider crop, paying mind not to crop anything off vertically (there is small part at the top where his horns have been cropped, and quite a bit at the bottom) and including his entire frame horizontally. From there we have the artistry to make those speech bubbles go away. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 22:54, January 6, 2020 (UTC)
    • Unfortunately, that's the best shot we have of him in the comic. The others are too small, and one even goes over a panel. UberSoldat93 (talk) 06:28, January 7, 2020 (UTC)
    • I've uploaded a slightly wider shot, but you can see how there are basically no other options. UberSoldat93 (talk) 06:36, January 7, 2020 (UTC)
      • You misunderstand. I don't want you to upload a different image. This image is fine. I just want it to be wider still. You don't need to crop off any part of his body, even his arms. Show all of him. There's no reason why this image needs to be cropped/zoomed in at all. It's plenty big. Please go back and re-crop it to show his entire frame. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 04:25, January 8, 2020 (UTC)
        • Ah, it's wider now. Sorry for the mixup. UberSoldat93 (talk) 13:55, January 8, 2020 (UTC)
          • Perfect. Now please send it off to Brules or Culator or someone who has the skills to make those speech bubbles go away. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:25, January 8, 2020 (UTC)
            • I've dropped a message on Brules' page, awaiting a response. UberSoldat93 (talk) 03:21, January 9, 2020 (UTC)
              • Done. What do you think? UberSoldat93 (talk) 18:49, January 9, 2020 (UTC)
                • Spookywilloww was kind enough to edit out the bubble. Issue should be resolved now hopefully. UberSoldat93 (talk) 13:49, January 10, 2020 (UTC)
  • Building on the previous objection, it's unnecessary to use the same image the infobox picture comes from in the Bio. There are enough other images of the character to use something fresh. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:39, January 8, 2020 (UTC)
    • Done. UberSoldat93 (talk) 03:29, January 9, 2020 (UTC)
      • There's still a better option. I would recommend the panel where Valance and Wef are standing next to each other, where Wef says, "What are you doing?" Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:20, January 10, 2020 (UTC)
        • That's the one that stretches over the panel. Would that still be suitable? UberSoldat93 (talk) 07:01, January 11, 2020 (UTC)
          • Yes, that's perfectly fine. Just crop it above their heads at a point so it looks good. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 07:05, January 11, 2020 (UTC)
  • I'd like to see the intro beefed up with probably two more sentences, without making it too big. Two intro sentences for a four-paragraph Bio is a bit lacking. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:37, January 26, 2020 (UTC)
    • Added more summarized info. UberSoldat93 (talk) 18:51, January 26, 2020 (UTC)
      • I still want to see more. You have two intro sentences for four body paragraphs (even though the second sentence should probably be broken up into a third). That's typically insufficient. Another solidly-sized sentence would probably do it. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 14:19, February 18, 2020 (UTC)
  • I think there's quite a bit from the comic that can be incorporated into the P/T still. Here is a list of the things I notice:
    • Wef thinks the Rebels are the "good guys" and considers the Pykes to have "questionable morals" but goes into business with the Hidden Hand in fear for his life
    • Eager to reveal his business secrets to Valance's hunters because he "likes" and "trusts" them
    • Scolded the hunters for treating the bot-drones like toys. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 16:46, February 24, 2020 (UTC)
LordMominutiae
  • Does "Sith Lord" really need to link to Dark Lord of the Sith, considering there is an actual Sith Lord page? LordMominutiae (talk) 20:56, January 21, 2020 (UTC)
    • If I may chime in, I think that linking is perfectly okay. It's similar to pipelinking [[Imperial-class Star Destroyer|Imperial Star Destroyer]] instead of [[Galactic Empire|Imperial]] [[Star Destroyer]] in the first mention. The term Dark Lord of the Sith simply refers to one of the two existing Sith Lords under the Rule of Two. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 00:40, January 22, 2020 (UTC)
Imp
  • I'm still seeing a couple of usages of "their" when referring to Wef. Imperators II(Talk) 22:45, January 23, 2020 (UTC)
    • I discussed this with Anil on the IRC, who said that "they" or "their" can be used if a character's gender is unknown. I'm just saying that this needs to be made clear on the Manual of Style in order to avoid confusion in the future, as it currently isn't. UberSoldat93 (talk) 07:31, January 24, 2020 (UTC)
      • So did I just now. Such practice does exist, but it's discouraged in formal writing. Imperators II(Talk) 09:06, January 24, 2020 (UTC)
        • Edited out the remaining instances now. UberSoldat93 (talk) 09:10, January 24, 2020 (UTC)
Tommy

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 19:08, February 24, 2020 (UTC)