Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/Unification Wars (Galactic Republic)

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Unification Wars (Galactic Republic)

Nominated by: Jace Onasi (talk) 05:22, September 29, 2017 (UTC)
Nomination comments: My second nomination of this article.

(1 ACs/1 Users/2 Total)

Support

Nice! Imperators II^(Talk) 08:06, October 16, 2017 (UTC)
Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:11, October 22, 2017 (UTC)

Object

Unification Imperators

~~The referencing in the article's body still needs some work:~~
- First sentence of Prelude: "Millennia[3]" — this ref says nothing about when the Infinite Empire reigned. If The New Essential Chronology provides the dates of the Infinite Empire's reign and the Republic's foundation, or even if it just says the Rakata ruled millennia before the Republic was founded, use that instead. Otherwise, add a (sourced) hard date for the Infinite Empire's reign to the ref.
  - I'm gonna go ahead and assume this has been addressed (for future reference, I recommend you leave a short note under each objection saying whether it's been fixed or what). "before the Unification Wars" — right now, this is being referenced to The New Essential Chronology, which is incorrect per the article itself, which indicates the book didn't mention the Wars. What I recommend you do here is source the whole "millennia before the Unification Wars" part to a new ref which explains when the Infinite Empire was around and how that relates to the date established in the 25,053 BBY ref.
    - The NEC establishes the date of the Republic's founding to c. 25,000 BBY and the Infinite Empire's rise to c. 30,000, so you would be correct there. I assume this is sufficient to establish that the Infinite Empire's reign occurred 'millennia' before the Wars?--Jace Onasi (talk) 08:25, October 15, 2017 (UTC)
      - The problem described in my previous comment is still present, i.e., you're sourcing "before the Unification Wars" to NEC, which doesn't mention the Unification Wars. I suggest you follow my suggestion of writing a new date ref for that part. Imperators II^(Talk) 10:15, October 15, 2017 (UTC)
        Is the reference that I've created sufficient?--Jace Onasi (talk) 02:28, October 16, 2017 (UTC)
- "the Jedi joined[2] shortly following the war,[3][7]" — this also needs to be more explicitly referenced. The Galactic Timeline video entry only gives the date in the BTC/ATC system, which needs to be translated to the BBY/ABY system for clarity. And this should be done in a single ref note combining the two ref notes (3 and 7) currently there.
  - I've translated the BTC date, and arrived at 24,953 BBY. This would appear to run contrary to the other dates on the wiki, which state that 25,000 BBY was the date that the Jedi joined the Republic. I also note that apparently the article for the year was deleted at one point. Am I missing something, or is it fine to go ahead and create the article?--Jace Onasi (talk) 10:38, October 2, 2017 (UTC)
    - I don't see anything in either the Codex entry cited on the 25,000 BBY page or in The New Essential Chronology that would contradict the date from swtor.com, so I'd say go ahead and create it, just make sure it's properly referenced, of course. Also please don't forget to fully link and format the new reference on this article.
      - I've ~~copy-pasted~~ properly formatted the reference on this page.--Jace Onasi (talk) 08:25, October 15, 2017 (UTC)
I don't really see a need for sourcing the previous and following conflict to different sources in the infobox and in the "Major galactic conflict" navbox; I think it would be better to go with what you have in navbox for both mentions. Imperators II^(Talk) 12:15, September 29, 2017 (UTC)
- I've combined the sources for the infobox and navbox, though I see little point in changing the Xim Wars reference. The History of Xim and the Tion Cluster provides the date for The Devouring, though not the Xim Wars. To change it would be providing two separate sources in the infobox.--Jace Onasi (talk) 08:23, October 2, 2017 (UTC)
  - This is what I was looking for. Imperators II^(Talk) 13:31, October 2, 2017 (UTC)

Exiled Jedi

Star Wars: Complete Vehicles includes the Unification Wars in its appearances section. Please check to see if it is actually mentioned and if there is any new information for this article.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 03:41, November 2, 2017 (UTC)

Comments

I've addressed all the objections from the previous nomination, which can be found here--Jace Onasi (talk) 05:22, September 29, 2017 (UTC)
About the image, I replaced the SWTOR one with one from The Jedi Path. The new image is more time-period ambiguous, without the uniformed Imperial troops. I scoured the wiki for an image of Jedi without lightsabers, and the only one I found was the one pictured below. I'm not sure it's appropriate, since it also features the Legions of Lettow. There were other images of Je'daii with swords, though they are not the same group as the modern Jedi Order.--Jace Onasi (talk) 05:22, September 29, 2017 (UTC)
- The current image is also not ideal, since it not only depicts cordless lightsabers, which were adopted by the Jedi c. 4800 BBY, but is also an in-universe image from The Jedi Path: A Manual for Students of the Force, which was published in the last millennium of the Republic's existence. The First Great Schism image is only slightly more appropriate than, for example, this one. The best fit I've found so far is this guy, but I'll understand if you're reluctant to put his image on the article. :D I guess more opinions are needed on this issue. Imperators II^(Talk) 11:37, September 29, 2017 (UTC)

Vote to remove nomination (AC only)

Unaddressed objection more than two weeks old. Imperators II^(Talk) 09:13, November 16, 2017 (UTC)
1358 ^(Talk) 12:35, November 16, 2017 (UTC)
Exiled Jedi (talk) 02:01, November 17, 2017 (UTC)