- The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a good article nomination that was unsuccessful. Please do not modify it.
Unidentified scout trooper (Operation Masterstroke)
- Nominated by: StarsiderSWG (talk) 19:57, November 21, 2015 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: I'm partial to moving the image to the infobox, if a consensus is reached.
(1 ACs/3 Users/4 Total)
Support
- Lol at that website clarifying his name is NOT a typo. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 18:18, November 23, 2015 (UTC)
- Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 04:45, December 25, 2015 (UTC)
- Imperators II(Talk) 16:01, January 10, 2016 (UTC)
Sir Cavalier of One
(Squadron channel) 22:57, June 2, 2016 (UTC)
Object
Ecks Dee
Some preliminaries: Please avoid referring to a subject with "this" in IU articles. Use "a" or "the" instead.Re-read the first sentence of the bio and see if you can find something wrong there.1358 (Talk) 01:01, January 30, 2016 (UTC)- I see what you mean. Those issues should be amended now. StarsiderSWG (talk) 20:32, February 2, 2016 (UTC)
Ayrehead02
- Did he give the player any kind of reward for completing the task? Or is it not possible to tell from the game files? Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:09, April 4, 2016 (UTC)
- Is there anything else that can be added about the individual you collect the container from? Were they randomly generated as well or do we simply lack any information on them? Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:09, April 4, 2016 (UTC)
- I'm trying to search the game files for some extra info on that. I think it was just a randomly generated character, but I'll get back to you on that. StarsiderSWG (talk) 18:21, April 9, 2016 (UTC)
- Sorry for the delay on this. I've been a bit busy lately. Give me a few more days and I'll get back with some article tweaks and/or answers to your questions. StarsiderSWG (talk) 19:24, June 12, 2016 (UTC)
- I'm trying to search the game files for some extra info on that. I think it was just a randomly generated character, but I'll get back to you on that. StarsiderSWG (talk) 18:21, April 9, 2016 (UTC)
Comments
- Does the game itself actually reveal SX-212 is a Human? If not, then it can't be sourced to the game. The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia reveals in its stormtrooper entry that all stormtroopers are Humans, as does Star Wars: The Complete Visual Dictionary, so those are two examples of sources that should be cited instead. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 20:03, November 21, 2015 (UTC)
- It's a good question, but yes, by using a certain in-game text command, it was possible to see that all stormtroopers, scout troopers, etc in SWG were Human. StarsiderSWG (talk) 20:08, November 21, 2015 (UTC)
- With that said, I'm open to using one of those other sources if needed. StarsiderSWG (talk) 20:09, November 21, 2015 (UTC)
- Sounds like that in-game text command is sufficient for his species. I notice that the article appears to be cut from the final game. Should the cut content template be implemented to the article? It seems like you're treating the character's existence as official, when it appears that, from not being included in anything other than cut from SWG, his existence is unverified. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 20:15, November 21, 2015 (UTC)
- In my view, the character itself should not be considered completely cut (only his follow-up quests were not known to be included). I would consider a cut character to be something like Ayn Eckener, who was never implemented to SWG at all (as far as we know). SX-212 and his first quest was however on all the live servers, and we have the TRE file dialogue to back up what multiple players have reported. It was not uncommon for NPCs to be removed or replaced with other NPCs, such as Omwaan. But as long as they at one point appeared on all live servers, I wouldn't consider it completely cut content. StarsiderSWG (talk) 21:36, November 21, 2015 (UTC)
- Alright, so the character was actually in the game at some point before being eventually removed. Thanks for clarifying. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 21:50, November 21, 2015 (UTC)
- In my view, the character itself should not be considered completely cut (only his follow-up quests were not known to be included). I would consider a cut character to be something like Ayn Eckener, who was never implemented to SWG at all (as far as we know). SX-212 and his first quest was however on all the live servers, and we have the TRE file dialogue to back up what multiple players have reported. It was not uncommon for NPCs to be removed or replaced with other NPCs, such as Omwaan. But as long as they at one point appeared on all live servers, I wouldn't consider it completely cut content. StarsiderSWG (talk) 21:36, November 21, 2015 (UTC)
- Sounds like that in-game text command is sufficient for his species. I notice that the article appears to be cut from the final game. Should the cut content template be implemented to the article? It seems like you're treating the character's existence as official, when it appears that, from not being included in anything other than cut from SWG, his existence is unverified. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 20:15, November 21, 2015 (UTC)
- With that said, I'm open to using one of those other sources if needed. StarsiderSWG (talk) 20:09, November 21, 2015 (UTC)
- It's a good question, but yes, by using a certain in-game text command, it was possible to see that all stormtroopers, scout troopers, etc in SWG were Human. StarsiderSWG (talk) 20:08, November 21, 2015 (UTC)
- Just wanted to make sure: is "Nabooian" a proper demonym per SWG? Because all I've encountered is "Naboo". Imperators II(Talk) 01:22, January 9, 2016 (UTC)
- Now that you mention it, I'm not sure Nabooian was every used. I've changed it to "Naboo". StarsiderSWG (talk) 15:55, January 10, 2016 (UTC)
- You know what... after researching this a bit more, I'm somewhat skeptical that SX-212 was definitely this guy's name. Although the Allakhazam guy insists it's not a typo, it's possible it may have just been a randomly generated name which would change after each server reset. I could find the quest dialogue in the directory files (so this guy was definitely a quest NPC), but nothing that really suggests he was named SX-212. Unfortunately, this is just such an old subject (dating back to 2003), that it cannot really be verified 100% either way. So I'm thinking of moving this article to Unidentified scout trooper (Operation Masterstroke), and explaining the conundrum in the BTS. Sorry for the confusion! StarsiderSWG (talk) 19:45, January 23, 2016 (UTC)
- Do you think then this GAN page title should be moved too? Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 18:55, January 24, 2016 (UTC)
- Yep, hopefully I did that properly now. StarsiderSWG (talk) 20:17, January 24, 2016 (UTC)
- Do you think then this GAN page title should be moved too? Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 18:55, January 24, 2016 (UTC)
- As an added note, it turns out "Nabooian" was actually used as a demonym in SWG, but I can leave it how it is now if that's better. StarsiderSWG (talk) 21:52, February 2, 2016 (UTC)
Vote to remove nomination (AC only)
- I'm seeing objections from April that apparently have not begun to be resolved and were semi-addressed over two weeks ago. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:32, July 1, 2016 (UTC)
Exiled Jedi (talk) 19:48, July 2, 2016 (UTC)- IFYLOFD (Talk) 21:28, July 3, 2016 (UTC)