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Unidentified Jedha riding beast
- Nominated by:
AnilSerifoglu (talk) 04:54, November 9, 2017 (UTC) - Nomination comments: Another cool thing that was cut from Rogue One.
(4 ACs/1 Users/5 Total)
Support
Good job. Let's pray this never needs updating. :3 Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 21:26, February 6, 2018 (UTC)- Jinzler (talk) 20:44, February 8, 2018 (UTC)
- Exiled Jedi (talk) 02:32, February 9, 2018 (UTC)
Nice. 1358 (Talk) 01:41, February 10, 2018 (UTC)- Have camel, will space. Imperators II(Talk) 21:55, February 11, 2018 (UTC)
Object
Toprawa
I think I'd suggest naming this thing "Unidentified Jedha riding beast" rather than the current name. That way it's a little bit more recognizable for readers, and "beast" is more species-specific than "mount."Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 21:23, January 29, 2018 (UTC)- Stormtroopers patrol the chilly sands of Jedha on long-legged mounts. I guess this line from Galactic Atlas was the reason of the name, but I totally see your point. Page moved. AnilSerifoglu (talk) 18:13, January 31, 2018 (UTC)
- Stormtroopers patrol the chilly sands of Jedha on long-legged mounts. I guess this line from Galactic Atlas was the reason of the name, but I totally see your point. Page moved.
Some preliminary formatting stuff:In the opening quote, presuming the comic lettering is in all caps, I'd suggest lowercasing "rebels," which is how Canon has standardized that term, as opposed to Legends, which always capitalized it.- Done. AnilSerifoglu (talk) 21:20, February 1, 2018 (UTC)
- Done.
I'd really suggest just going with one image in the History and then right-aligning the BTS image. Two images there looks just a little too cramped.- I wanted to keep an actual shot from Rogue One, but you are right, image removed. AnilSerifoglu (talk) 21:20, February 1, 2018 (UTC)
- I wanted to keep an actual shot from Rogue One, but you are right, image removed.
In the BTS quote, when a quote is presented within a larger quote, the internal quote gets single quotation marks, not double.Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:35, February 1, 2018 (UTC)- Done. AnilSerifoglu (talk) 21:20, February 1, 2018 (UTC)
- Done.
Now some referencing issues. Lately, Archive.org has been unable to properly format archived versions of StarWars.com pages. We're not exactly sure why, but if you open up this article's link to the archive of the Holy City Databank page, for example, you'll see it ultimately just takes you to a blank white page that will never stop loading. We've figured out that, for the most part, SW.com pages from early 2017 and before load fine, but any archive pages since the middle/end of 2017 to present will not work. So, what you need to do is take the original URL to Archive.org and stick it into the first field at the top of the page (not the Save Page Now one), which will take you here. From there, you need to go through and find an archived page that works and stick that URL into our article's template. If you can't find one that works, alternatively save the page through WebCite. Rinse and repeat for all such SW.com pages.Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 03:58, February 5, 2018 (UTC)- I had the same issue last time I used archive.org but I thought it was just my PC. I have changed the archival links accordingly, they should be fine now. AnilSerifoglu (talk) 15:21, February 5, 2018 (UTC)
- I had the same issue last time I used archive.org but I thought it was just my PC. I have changed the archival links accordingly, they should be fine now.
We added a nice YouTube citation template for you. Since videos don't show up in Archive pages anyway, there's no need to use archive pages for these, but that template does have a quote field, which you should use whenever possible in your citations. Please add whatever quotes from those videos is necessary, and make extra sure you're transcribing accurately.Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:39, February 5, 2018 (UTC)- This is the template I was looking for, thanks! These two videos are only to show that the Jedha camel shots in the final cut of Rogue One are completely CGI, so there is no quote that can be noted in the quote field. AnilSerifoglu (talk) 21:20, February 5, 2018 (UTC)
- This is the template I was looking for, thanks! These two videos are only to show that the Jedha camel shots in the final cut of Rogue One are completely CGI, so there is no quote that can be noted in the quote field.
- In the External links, it's not necessary to use the Citeweb template. It's been a popular misconception of late to use the template in that manner across other articles, but that's not what it's designed for. It's made specifically for referencing, similar to how it's done in academia. But aside from that, it's not strictly necessary to list all your external references there. I removed all but the ILM video, since that's the lone official Lucasfilm item. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 21:32, February 5, 2018 (UTC)
- Then I was one of those who fell into this misconception, thanks for letting me know! AnilSerifoglu (talk) 21:46, February 5, 2018 (UTC)
- Then I was one of those who fell into this misconception, thanks for letting me know!
In the History section, I added "before the Battle of Yavin" to that first sentence. Please add whatever reference is necessary to source that.- Galactic Atlas notes that the Jedha map featured in the book pictures it around the year 1 BBY. The book also explains BBY/ABY dating system, so I think the reference is already OK. AnilSerifoglu (talk) 12:29, February 6, 2018 (UTC)
- Galactic Atlas notes that the Jedha map featured in the book pictures it around the year 1 BBY. The book also explains BBY/ABY dating system, so I think the reference is already OK.
I've added a redlink to the term "pike," which will need to be created. Do a Google search for "StarWars.com Databank 'pike'" to see a number of hits for sources.- Done. AnilSerifoglu (talk) 12:29, February 6, 2018 (UTC)
- Done.
- Not an objection, but I've removed the article's bit mentioning the dewback troopers due to it being a little out of place in terms of chronology. The only example we have of dewback troopers is on Tatooine, which happens after the events in this article regarding the beasts' Imperial service, so it's kind of strange to mention the connection as if they're concurrent.
- Yeah, I agree. It is probably better without that part. AnilSerifoglu (talk) 12:29, February 6, 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah, I agree. It is probably better without that part.
In the BTS, I reworked the mention of the film's date into the first sentence clause. Please make sure that can be supported by the art book.- Just reminding you that this one is still here. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:21, February 6, 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah, I have just arrived home to look it up. Although the book states that Rogue One is the first of the new spin-offs, I wasn't able to find a line that explicitly states that the film came out in 2016. I can put another reference just for the year if you prefer. AnilSerifoglu (talk) 20:39, February 6, 2018 (UTC)
- That would be best. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:50, February 6, 2018 (UTC)
- I have made a minor change in the sentence to make references look better, please take a look. AnilSerifoglu (talk) 21:05, February 6, 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, that works. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 21:26, February 6, 2018 (UTC)
- I have made a minor change in the sentence to make references look better, please take a look.
- That would be best. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:50, February 6, 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah, I have just arrived home to look it up. Although the book states that Rogue One is the first of the new spin-offs, I wasn't able to find a line that explicitly states that the film came out in 2016. I can put another reference just for the year if you prefer.
- Just reminding you that this one is still here. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:21, February 6, 2018 (UTC)
Where the BTS references that art book's illustrator to the SW.com article, is Tim McDonagh not credited within the book itself? If so, it's unnecessary to use the SW.com article to reference that.- Done. AnilSerifoglu (talk) 12:29, February 6, 2018 (UTC)
- Done.
The BTS image uses the term "Jedha Camel" as if you found that used somewhere, such as in the concept illustration itself, though I don't see it there. If so, it would be best to work that into the BTS like the mention of "space camel."Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 03:18, February 6, 2018 (UTC)- This is the text that is under that image in The Art of Rogue One: A Star Wars Story: JEDHA "CAMEL" FULL BODY VERSION 55 Alzmann. I have added a mention into BTS as you said, please take a look. AnilSerifoglu (talk) 12:50, February 6, 2018 (UTC)
- This is the text that is under that image in The Art of Rogue One: A Star Wars Story: JEDHA "CAMEL" FULL BODY VERSION 55 Alzmann. I have added a mention into BTS as you said, please take a look.
Where in Absolutely Everything You Need to Know, Updated and Expanded is the 4.9 m/16 ft height figure coming from? I looked at the most obvious places but couldn't find anything.Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 03:27, February 6, 2018 (UTC)- Unfortunately, that one is the only canon reference book that I wasn't able to get my hands on. I had asked AV-6R7 about the info regarding the creatures and he had wrote me this: Sandtroopers patrol pilgrimage routes to Jedha City, riding long-legged creatures standing up to 4.9m (16ft) high! From there they can watch for smugglers and Saw Gerrera’s rebels. I'll ask him or will somehow try to get the book myself and reply you the page number as soon as possible. AnilSerifoglu (talk) 13:05, February 6, 2018 (UTC)
- Ah, I found it. It's in the Stormtroopers section, rather than the Jedha sections. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:03, February 6, 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah, it is on page 111. AnilSerifoglu (talk) 20:18, February 6, 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah, it is on page 111.
- Ah, I found it. It's in the Stormtroopers section, rather than the Jedha sections. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:03, February 6, 2018 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, that one is the only canon reference book that I wasn't able to get my hands on. I had asked AV-6R7 about the info regarding the creatures and he had wrote me this: Sandtroopers patrol pilgrimage routes to Jedha City, riding long-legged creatures standing up to 4.9m (16ft) high! From there they can watch for smugglers and Saw Gerrera’s rebels. I'll ask him or will somehow try to get the book myself and reply you the page number as soon as possible.
Exiled Jedi
I see that the infobox says that their habitat is desert, which is sourced to the Galactic Atlas. This isn't really stated anywhere in the body. You just state that Jedha is a desert.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 02:16, February 9, 2018 (UTC)- Actually, Galactic Atlas doesn't explicitly state their habitat. Removed that from the infobox. AnilSerifoglu (talk) 02:30, February 9, 2018 (UTC)
- Actually, Galactic Atlas doesn't explicitly state their habitat. Removed that from the infobox.
Unidentified space camel
Per Tope's objection above, all instances of "rebels" must be lower-cased, which will also require rephrasing the last two sentences of History.- Done. AnilSerifoglu (talk) 21:30, February 11, 2018 (UTC)
- Done.
Is there a reason why "camels that inhabited those lands" is in past tense?Imperators II(Talk) 15:28, February 11, 2018 (UTC)- No, just a habit because of writing in-universe articles. Changed it to present tense. AnilSerifoglu (talk) 21:30, February 11, 2018 (UTC)
- No, just a habit because of writing in-universe articles. Changed it to present tense.
Comments
- A mount appears again in Issue 39 of the Star Wars comics --Lewisr (talk) 08:23, November 22, 2017 (UTC)
- It seems like this thing could appear throughout the Jedha arc. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 18:38, November 22, 2017 (UTC)
- It appears that way, I guess rather than say every issue it may be good Anil if you keep an eye out throughout the arc, if you hadn't already planned that! --Lewisr (talk) 18:41, November 22, 2017 (UTC)
- Yeah, I know that they can appear throughout the entire story arc, and I have already been following the series not just because of this nomination but it is really interesting! Unfortunately, in my country, I am able to buy the comic book issue a day after the US release and I'll sure update the article if anything comes up about the camels. I don't personally believe that there will be any major edits, Pablo Hidalgo even told me that the camels haven't been named yet. Thanks for letting me know anyway! AnilSerifoglu (talk) 23:02, November 22, 2017 (UTC)
- Yeah, I know that they can appear throughout the entire story arc, and I have already been following the series not just because of this nomination but it is really interesting! Unfortunately, in my country, I am able to buy the comic book issue a day after the US release and I'll sure update the article if anything comes up about the camels. I don't personally believe that there will be any major edits, Pablo Hidalgo even told me that the camels haven't been named yet. Thanks for letting me know anyway!
- It appears that way, I guess rather than say every issue it may be good Anil if you keep an eye out throughout the arc, if you hadn't already planned that! --Lewisr (talk) 18:41, November 22, 2017 (UTC)
- It seems like this thing could appear throughout the Jedha arc. -
Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 21:55, February 11, 2018 (UTC)