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The Bestiary of Darth Caldoth

Nominated by: Dentface (talk) 00:48, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
Nomination comments: First GAN, let's see how this goes...
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Support

UberSoldat93 (talk) 16:40, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
Nice work! JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 19:37, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
OOM 224 10:09, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
1358 ^(Talk) 10:59, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
LucaRoR ^(Talk) 11:01, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Object

The Pasta of Macaroni

~~Welcome to the GAN! First off, just checking: are there no more relevant quotes?~~

~~The history section could use some subsectioning.~~

~~There's one redirect link that needs fixing. If you haven't already, it'll be highlighted orange once you turn on the gadget here.~~ JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 01:21, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
- History subsectioning & redirecting link: Done.
  - Can you try to modify the sections so that each one has two paragraphs? We try to avoid one paragraph sections when possible.
- Regarding quotes... not really. A lot of it is "Did you see this book?! Yeah! The Bestiary of . . . why did Kostana give us this?" (These aren't exact quotes.) There isn't really anything of substance in a back-and-forth that describes the book itself any better than the quote that's already on the article. Dentface (talk) 01:45, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
  - It doesn't matter if they don't describe the book better than the current quote, if they discuss the book at all they can be added to the description/history sections. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 19:26, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
    - Done. I have added 2 new quotes and moved the original intro quote to the description section. I also consolidated the sections of the History portion of the article as per our discussion on Discord. Dentface (talk) 08:42, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
      - Quotes looking much better. I'm still not a fan of the one-paragraph long section, though. I'd either have the two section headers be above two paragraphs each or merge the "Creation and Jedi acquisition" paragraph with the first paragraph in "Fragment dissemination." JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 17:20, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
        I reworked the subsectioning a little better. I think the way it is now works better for the Yoda quote. What do you think? Dentface (talk) 01:54, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
~~The article does not currently make it clear why Dooku's vision is related to Kostana giving him the book.~~ JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 16:59, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
- ". . . it was revealed that Kostana was not a Sith and had given Dooku and Sifo-Dyas the book fragment in the hope that it would unearth repressed memories within Dooku." - Is this not sufficient? That's about the amount of detail the audio drama goes into the subject. Dentface (talk) 02:11, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
  - To me the article doesn't really make a connection between the memories and the vision. JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 17:12, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
    - Rewrote that section. Does it look good now? Dentface (talk) 05:30, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Erebus

~~I believe a page is constituted for 1087 BBY.~~
~~Please see my copy-edit and let me know if you have any issues or questions with it.~~ Erebus Chronus ^(Talk) 01:34, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
- Your edit looks great! I can make the 1087 BBY page if you like, but Dooku: Jedi Lost doesn't state that the book was written exactly 1,000 years before the flashback. That's just the earliest possible point, so I'm not sure it's necessary? You're more experience than I though, so if you feel it's required, let me know and I'll go for it. Dentface (talk) 01:45, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
  - Since it says "at least," then no, you don't need to create it as it's more of a grey area. If it said "approximately," then it would definitely constitute a page. Erebus Chronus ^(Talk) 02:04, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Vitus

~~I think an image of Darth Caldoth would be appropriate.~~ --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 01:59, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
- Great idea! Added. Dentface (talk) 04:08, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

UberSoldat

~~Is there a quote that can be added to the first History subsection?~~
~~Was this "duel" a lightsaber duel? If so, that should be pipelinked there.~~
The reasoning behind Kostana's actions should be made clear in the article when she's actually doing them, not when the story reveals those details to the reader. There is a stark difference between writing events in an encyclopedic manner and writing them in the order the story presents them. UberSoldat93 (talk) 15:46, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- There isn't really anything left to be used as a quote that'd fit the first History subsection. There are other quotes, but they basically say the same thing as the quote in the second history subsection, and that doesn't really fit the content of the first section.
- Pipelink added.
- I rewrote the History subsections significantly as per your suggestions. How does everything look now? Dentface (talk) 05:11, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
~~I think the intro can be expanded with more relevant info. You have 7 paragraphs in the body in total, but only a 3-sentence intro at the moment.~~ UberSoldat93 (talk) 07:51, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
- Done. Dentface (talk) 15:27, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Comments

In Dooku: Jedi Lost, The Bestiary of Darth Caldoth is occasionally referred to simply as "The Bestiary" with that exact punctuation and capitalization, which is why I have done so for certain sections of the article. Dentface (talk) 00:48, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
Per a discussion on Discord with Imperators II, I modified the date of creation to be prior to 1032 BBY, which is linked to the supposed destruction of the Sith in the Jedi-Sith War. Dentface (talk) 08:42, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 11:36, 14 August 2021 (UTC)