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Stinger (clone trooper)

  • Nominated by: Talrrivanian JaingHead (Headquarters) 09:22, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments:Second time around, Stinger is another clone from the Gambit series. If you haven't read this series, I highly recommend doing so.

(3 ACs/2 Users/5 Total)

Support

  1. Good job. Clone Commander Lee Talk 11:10, January 3, 2012 (UTC)
  2. Nice work.—Cal JediInfinite Empire (Personal Comm Channel) 23:35, January 3, 2012 (UTC)
  3. ACvote Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research (Comlink) 22:07, January 13, 2012 (UTC)
  4. ACvote Final product looks good. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:35, January 15, 2012 (UTC)
  5. Inqvote Menkooroo 23:06, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

Object

Lee's charge
  • Infobox: As he was killed in orbit over Kothlis, the infobox should say: "21 BBY, over Kothlis".
    • Done.
  • Infobox: I'm not sure if a Navy clone trooper belongs to the GAR or if Navy and Army are two different organizations. Please check this and remove the GAR from the infobox if my assumption is correct.
  • Intro: Please give some context on the Clone Wars or at least stated against whom the Republic fought that battle or whose's Vulture droids Stinger engaged.
    • Done.
      • Good work, but could you write: Stinger participated in a battle against Separatist forces in orbit of the planet Kothlis. ? Clone Commander Lee Talk 12:13, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
        • Oops.
  • Bio: Give a little bit more context about his origin's. At least the fact that he was born and raised on Kamino has to be in there. Otherwise it would be infobox-exclusive.
  • Bio: Clone Wars context needed, something like "inter-galactic conflict" would be fine.
    • Added.
  • Bio: participated in a battle to protect the planet Kothlis and defend Kothlis from an attack from the Confederate General Grievous. To make it clearer for the reader please tell us that the Republic fought against the Separatists at little bit earlier when you mention the battle the first time. This goes with the objection above. If you mention that the Clone Wars where fought between Republic and Separatists, the whole text would be clearer.
    • Mentioned earlier.
      • See the objection above. Clone Commander Lee Talk 12:13, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
        • Could you possibly be more clear?
          • Of course. Adress it like the bio objection to the same stuff. Include a "Separatist forces" in the sentence.
            • Better?
  • Bio: You mention Vulture droids two times in very close order. Please find a synonym or just write "Vultures" the second time you are mentioning them.
    • Ok.
      • Remains. Clone Commander Lee Talk 12:13, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
        • Sorry, I did it in the intro instead of the bio. Now it is done.
  • P&T: Stinger was a clone trooper pilot who stood 1.83 meters tall.. You can't source the fact that he was a clone trooper pilot to the databank.
    • What should I source it too?
      • You have to source the clone pilot thing to Gambit and his height to the databank. Clone Commander Lee Talk 12:13, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
        • Done.
  • BtS: Is he really just mentioned in the novel or does he appear. I'm not quite sure, could you please check it?
    • It is mentioned in the battle from Skywalkers' point of view that a clone pilot by the name of "Stinger" is shot down before Skywalker could help him.
  • More to come eventually. However, overall good work. Always happy to review some clones. Clone Commander Lee Talk 11:37, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
  • I'm quite sure that the stuff about Kamino should only be in the bio and not in the P&T. If you just leave his height there it is fine. Clone Commander Lee Talk 12:36, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
    • Removed.
  • Very nice work on adressing those objections. I'll give this another look today or at latest tomorrow. Clone Commander Lee Talk 14:40, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
  • Stinger participated in a battle against Separatist forces in orbit of the planet Kothlis.: This sounds like the battle only took place in orbit, which is not correct. Please rephrase it so that it says that there were battles on and above the planet, but make clear that Stinger only fought in orbit.
    • Done?
  • That should be all. Clone Commander Lee Talk 14:45, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
Cal Jedi
  • ""Stinger" was the nickname of one of the many clones of the Mandalorian bounty hunter Jango Fett, like his fellow clones, Stinger was bred on the planet of Kamino." - I believe you meant this to be two sentences. It needs to be either way.
    • Done.
  • "...unable to shake them off his tail." - This sounds too much like pilot talk and not enough like an encyclopedia should. It should be stated in a better, more encyclopedic way.—Cal JediInfinite Empire (Personal Comm Channel) 02:41, January 3, 2012 (UTC)
Toprawa
  • It is customarily required that formerly failed, re-nominated articles to nevertheless address the outstanding objections that caused the nomination to fail in the first place, if they have not been already. Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:08, January 4, 2012 (UTC)
    • Before I nominated it, I looked over those objections, and I believe that they are all addressed.--Talrrivanian JaingHead (Headquarters) 06:30, January 5, 2012 (UTC)
Moffship
  • Restating this objection here, for ease of reference: Please make it clear in the bio that Grievous's "new weapon" was a computer virus.
    • Cleared up.
  • "Stinger participated in one of the battles against Separatist forces while in orbit above the planet Kothlis." - This is a little too wordy, and implies that there were multiple battles above Kothlis (which is true, but such explanation is not needed here). Simply saying something like "Stinger participated in a battle against Separatist forces above the planet Kothlis" will do.
    • Stated.
  • "Meanwhile, ground troops landed to engage the Separatist Droid Army on the surface." - This is completely irrelevant to Stinger, and therefore not needed, especially in the intro.
    • Removed.
  • In the first sentence of the bio, you may want to include a separate reference for the "'Stinger' was the nickname" part, since that can't be sourced to the Databank.
    • added.
  • That's all for now. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research (Comlink) 01:16, January 11, 2012 (UTC)
Stinger
  • The biography mentions that Stinger participated in the Battle of Kothlis, then it backtracks chronologically to a point in time where he's stationed aboard the Indomitable before he's actually called to the battle. Can you correct the chronology here?
    • Done?
      • Perfect! Just remember to adjust the linking, too. I took care of it, but Kothlis wasn't linked until its second mention.
  • According to our article on the Indomitable, it's never actually identified as a Venator in the novels, so you shouldn't call it one here.
    • Removed.
  • The sentence in "Personality and traits" about Stinger's dying pain and anger currently reads like it's more about Skywalker than Stinger. You're right to mention that Skywalker felt the pain and anger in the Force, but Skywalker shouldn't be the primary subject of the sentence --- Stinger should be. Menkooroo 07:29, January 16, 2012 (UTC)
    • Better?--Talrrivanian JaingHead (Headquarters) 11:45, January 16, 2012 (UTC)
      • Still reads like it's about Anakin. I think it's important to establish that Stinger felt pain and anger before mentioning Anakin at all. Menkooroo 17:45, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 18:44, January 19, 2012 (UTC)