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Star Wars: Imperial Commando
- Nominated by: Corellian Premier
MTFBWY 13:26, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: Let's go hunting.
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Support
- Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 13:39, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
- LucaRoR
(Talk) 13:50, 24 May 2022 (UTC) - NanoLuukeCloning facility 13:16, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
UberSoldat93 (talk) 09:52, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
Commander Code-8 Hello There! 10:11, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
Didn't realize Imp had also started a review so here's an extra vote. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 20:10, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
Imperators II(Talk) 13:06, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
Object
NanoLuuke
I've already copy-edited the references during the review, and I just did a check on major video game webpress (IGN, GameInformer, GameSpot, Kotaku, RPS and Polygon, and only Polygon did a report on the Cinelinx info btw) to see if I could dig anything else, which turned nothing. However, I did found a complete archive of the twitter exchange: https://archive.ph/M3961 and you might want to update the article accordingly. NanoLuukeCloning facility 13:57, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
- Awesome find! Updated. Corellian Premier
MTFBWY 12:19, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- Awesome find! Updated. Corellian Premier
CC-8
Release year needed for Rogue Leaders- Added. Corellian Premier
MTFBWY 16:47, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
- Added. Corellian Premier
The development section says that Greg Knight was the only confirmed LucasArts crew confirmed, while the article also considers Kevin Schmitt as the lead developer- Well, I was wary of putting him the Credits section, as all we know is that he pitched the idea of the game. Corellian Premier
MTFBWY 16:47, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
- All that needs changing here is to remove the description of Knight as the sole confirmed crew member
- Sure. Corellian Premier
MTFBWY 12:36, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
- Sure. Corellian Premier
- All that needs changing here is to remove the description of Knight as the sole confirmed crew member
- Well, I was wary of putting him the Credits section, as all we know is that he pitched the idea of the game. Corellian Premier
"At that time, design documents had been completed." its not totally clear what time is being referred to- Adjusted. Corellian Premier
MTFBWY 16:47, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
- Adjusted. Corellian Premier
Context needed for Sev, just that he's a character in Republic Commando will do. Alternatively that mention of the character could be removed since its not super relevant to this article Commander Code-8 Hello There! 13:13, 8 June 2022 (UTC)- I added context. Corellian Premier
MTFBWY 16:47, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
- I added context. Corellian Premier
Schmitt pitching the game should be moved to a much earlier part of the development sectionCommander Code-8 Hello There! 12:10, 10 June 2022 (UTC)- Done. And thanks! Corellian Premier
MTFBWY 12:36, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
- Done. And thanks! Corellian Premier
Development section is now large enough for a paragraph break, could also use another concept art image there if one is availableCommander Code-8 Hello There! 08:01, 14 June 2022 (UTC)- Next bit done. Corellian Premier
MTFBWY 23:20, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Next bit done. Corellian Premier
UberSoldat
You have infobox-exclusive information: this being a military shooter and being a part of the Republic Commando series.UberSoldat93(talk) 18:44, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Shay, thanks for the copy-edit. Is not the info that it is a sequel to RC enough to cover the genre (in the first Development section)? And the link to the series is already in Continuity. Corellian Premier
MTFBWY 19:07, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- 1.) Not really, it should be made explicitly clear. Sometimes sequels don't carry over the genre. 2.) Yes, but the article doesn't say it's a part of the series. UberSoldat93
(talk) 19:14, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- Sure, both added. Corellian Premier
MTFBWY 20:57, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- Sure, both added. Corellian Premier
- 1.) Not really, it should be made explicitly clear. Sometimes sequels don't carry over the genre. 2.) Yes, but the article doesn't say it's a part of the series. UberSoldat93
- Hi Shay, thanks for the copy-edit. Is not the info that it is a sequel to RC enough to cover the genre (in the first Development section)? And the link to the series is already in Continuity. Corellian Premier
Imp
Can you please tell me which source says that the game was to be set during the "Imperial Period"?Imperators II(Talk) 11:09, 26 June 2022 (UTC)- Added context. Corellian Premier
MTFBWY 21:21, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- I'd like you to be more precise with the dating in this article. If all we know is that the game would have been set during the reign of the Empire and would have featured the Rebel Alliance, then it would have been set between 19 BBY and 4 ABY, which is what I'd like you to add to the infobox and the body. Saying that it would have been set after 19 BBY, based on just the existence of the Empire alone, is not accurate enough, since it conceivably could have been set in 19 BBY. Imperators II(Talk) 21:35, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- OK, I think I got it. Corellian Premier
MTFBWY 13:01, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- Can you please clean that addition up? No offense, but it's currently a bit of a mess - typo, bad grammar, lack of sourcing for some of the statements. Imperators II(Talk) 12:49, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
- Ok, made some adjustments. Corellian Premier
MTFBWY 16:51, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
- "The game was to take place during the..." — this still needs a source added that supports it. And the Rebel Alliance was not formed in 19 BBY. Imperators II(Talk) 20:26, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- Ok, I think I added the needed specificity. And I removed the 4 ABY because we don't know if it would have extended all the way to Endor. Corellian Premier
MTFBWY 12:56, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
- Ok, I think I added the needed specificity. And I removed the 4 ABY because we don't know if it would have extended all the way to Endor. Corellian Premier
- "The game was to take place during the..." — this still needs a source added that supports it. And the Rebel Alliance was not formed in 19 BBY. Imperators II(Talk) 20:26, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- Ok, made some adjustments. Corellian Premier
- Can you please clean that addition up? No offense, but it's currently a bit of a mess - typo, bad grammar, lack of sourcing for some of the statements. Imperators II(Talk) 12:49, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
- OK, I think I got it. Corellian Premier
- I'd like you to be more precise with the dating in this article. If all we know is that the game would have been set during the reign of the Empire and would have featured the Rebel Alliance, then it would have been set between 19 BBY and 4 ABY, which is what I'd like you to add to the infobox and the body. Saying that it would have been set after 19 BBY, based on just the existence of the Empire alone, is not accurate enough, since it conceivably could have been set in 19 BBY. Imperators II(Talk) 21:35, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- Added context. Corellian Premier
Is what's currently in the Continuity section explicitly talked about in the source, or is that your commentary? I'm asking because not all of the Republic Commando series (for example, the short stories) follows the Delta Squad.Imperators II(Talk) 08:39, 28 July 2022 (UTC)- It's more of an extrapolation based on what Brett said in the Cinelinx interview. I added a line to clarify it. Corellian Premier
MTFBWY 13:20, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- It's more of an extrapolation based on what Brett said in the Cinelinx interview. I added a line to clarify it. Corellian Premier
Is the Development image concept art for Imperial Commando? If it is, it contains a whole lot of info that should be covered in Appearances and Plot summary.Imperators II(Talk) 08:51, 28 July 2022 (UTC)- Indeed it is. One of the few available. I didn't include it based on a Discord discussion about concept art not necessarily translating into the game. Corellian Premier
MTFBWY 13:20, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- In that case, I don't understand why you're treating some of the concept art (commandos in Katarn armor, lightsabers and Rebel starfighters) as applicable, but not this specific piece. Imperators II(Talk) 13:33, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry, a little clarity. The article does numerate and list some of the basics from the concept art, it just avoids too much specificity like the species (and it is a given that those types of things would be involved). Corellian Premier
MTFBWY 15:00, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
- So there's some sort of textual basis in Rogue Leaders: The Story of LucasArts that supports it being more certain that lightsabers and Rebel starfighters would have appeared in the game than Wookiees, Twi'leks (the rightmost figure in the image looks like a Twi'lek to me, at least), and Humans? And either way, I'm now more convince that all of the details from this or any other concept art image pertinent to Imperial Commando should be described in the article's text. Whether it should all be in Appearances is a different matter, but again, it depends on what exactly the sources have to say about those story details. Imperators II(Talk) 15:14, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
- Please note the specific starfighter models in Appearances, as well. Imperators II(Talk) 11:10, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
- Done! Corellian Premier
MTFBWY 12:38, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
- Done! Corellian Premier
- Please note the specific starfighter models in Appearances, as well. Imperators II(Talk) 11:10, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
- So there's some sort of textual basis in Rogue Leaders: The Story of LucasArts that supports it being more certain that lightsabers and Rebel starfighters would have appeared in the game than Wookiees, Twi'leks (the rightmost figure in the image looks like a Twi'lek to me, at least), and Humans? And either way, I'm now more convince that all of the details from this or any other concept art image pertinent to Imperial Commando should be described in the article's text. Whether it should all be in Appearances is a different matter, but again, it depends on what exactly the sources have to say about those story details. Imperators II(Talk) 15:14, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry, a little clarity. The article does numerate and list some of the basics from the concept art, it just avoids too much specificity like the species (and it is a given that those types of things would be involved). Corellian Premier
- In that case, I don't understand why you're treating some of the concept art (commandos in Katarn armor, lightsabers and Rebel starfighters) as applicable, but not this specific piece. Imperators II(Talk) 13:33, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Indeed it is. One of the few available. I didn't include it based on a Discord discussion about concept art not necessarily translating into the game. Corellian Premier
Does anything else beside the actual Development image itself (i.e., caption(s) or other images) explicitly establish that the game would have featured Kel Dor, Twi'lek, and Wookiee pilots? Because you should not assume that based on that image alone.Imperators II(Talk) 08:58, 18 August 2022 (UTC)- It was just a generic description. I added a slight adjustment. Corellian Premier
MTFBWY 12:53, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
- It was just a generic description. I added a slight adjustment. Corellian Premier
Amazingly
Please do one final check over your grammar.AmazinglyCool(talk) 02:48, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- Hi. I ran it through Grammerly before nomming it. Do you have a specific thing you are looking for here? Corellian Premier
MTFBWY 12:34, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- Some of the words are repeated (e.g. "The video game game" in the first sentence of Development), and some of the wording could be improved (e.g. "Part of the combat was to be against" in the second sentence of Plot summary). AmazinglyCool
(talk) 15:29, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- OK, I made a couple switchups. Corellian Premier
MTFBWY 16:13, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- Make sure you are ok with this edit. AmazinglyCool
(talk) 00:19, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. I did change one bit about the combat. Corellian Premier
MTFBWY 13:20, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Make sure you are ok with this edit. AmazinglyCool
- OK, I made a couple switchups. Corellian Premier
- Some of the words are repeated (e.g. "The video game game" in the first sentence of Development), and some of the wording could be improved (e.g. "Part of the combat was to be against" in the second sentence of Plot summary). AmazinglyCool
- Hi. I ran it through Grammerly before nomming it. Do you have a specific thing you are looking for here? Corellian Premier
Can you add any quotes?AmazinglyCool(talk) 00:12, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- I found one that I think works. Corellian Premier
MTFBWY 13:20, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- I found one that I think works. Corellian Premier
Comments
- Previous CA, over the word limit. Corellian Premier
MTFBWY 13:26, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 13:06, 18 August 2022 (UTC)