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Shuttle ferry

  • Nominated by: AxMech (talk) 23:10, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
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  1. ACvote Congrats on your first GAN! Braha'tok enthusiast Hello there 23:19, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
  2. First GAN! hell yeah! BloodOfIrizi Sabine Starbird (talk) 00:11, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
  3. Objections handled via Discord.—spookywillowwtalk 00:59, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
  4. Last objections resolved via Discord. Very good work, AxMech. Samonic Signatureicon (Talk) 13:10, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
  5. ACvote Imperators II(Talk) 14:41, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
  6. ACvote Nicely done! JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 21:03, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

Object

Ziara
  • Welcome to GAN!
  • you've got a few redirects, those can be fixed using pipelinks.
  • Upon landing on Ferrix to meet with Cassian Andor in 5 BBY[2] - you can't date this entire sentence to the date ref
  • link to the episodes in the BTS
  • since it was identified in the Audio description, you'll need to ref every mention of 'shuttle ferry' to the AD ref, not the episode
  • a bit of context for Cassian should be added
  • brief mentions of Luthen and Syril on the ferry needed in the intro BloodOfIrizi Sabine Starbird (talk) 23:51, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
    • All addressed as per previous conversation. AxMech (talk) 02:00, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
Lewis
  • There's an instance of Vel being on the ferry in "Narkina 5" missing
  • No quote that could be used in description?
    • None that I could find, only two quotes mentioning the ferry have already been added and even these are very indirect mentions. AxMech (talk) 02:00, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
  • There seems to be general underlinking, subjects should be linked at their first mention in both the intro and article body Lewisr (talk) 01:28, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
  • The episode air date cannot be sourced to the episode itself. I'd recommend looking at other Andor nominations to see what they use as a source for the dates Lewisr (talk) 16:33, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
    • Added source for the dates AxMech (talk) 19:37, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
Samonic
  • Welcome to the GAN, AxMech! (Review note)
  • Preliminaries:
    • Numbers smaller than 100 should be spelled out.
    • There's a few duplicate links. (Duplicate links can be highlighted by going to Preferences; Gadgets; "Highlight duplicate links in articles." Duplicate links will then be highlighted in red if you activate the tool from the red toolbar.)
    • Does Narkina 5 (episode) really state that Rael was a "spymaster"? If not, you should find another source that does.
    • Per the LG, the "Description" section's name should be "Characteristics." There's enough information for a "Role" section as well.
    • Example: Firekiln — The description describes a singular shuttle ferry. If there were several ferries, you should reword that section. e. g. "The exterior of the ship was painted in red and bright yellow, with the text "ENGINE 22" and "FERRIX ENTRY FERRY SERVICE" written on its side in Bazeese script. Its two engine units were located in the rear.[1]" -> "The ferries's exterior was painted in red and bright yellow, with the text "ENGINE 22" and "FERRIX ENTRY FERRY" written on the vehicles' sides in Bazeese script."
    • An article for Engine 22 should be created. You inconsistently capitalize this ferry's name, too: "ENGINE 22" in the "Description" and "Engine 22" in the "History."
    • As Lewisr pointed out, there's a few links missing, and there's also at least one incorrect link—your link to grappler links to a disambiguation page. It seems like there is no article for grappler (ocupation), so an article for it should be created.
    • Omitted dialogue in quotes is expressed with a ''[…]'', not a (...). Samonic Signatureicon (Talk) 11:40, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
      • All fixed, a Grappler (profession) article already existed so I linked to that. AxMech (talk) 12:09, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
        • RE: omitted dialogue, the '' surrounding the ''[…]'' should be added as well, as the […] shouldn't be italicized. Samonic Signatureicon (Talk) 17:48, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
  • We normally use the "Role" section to mention what the starship's role (e. g. Ship-to-ship combatant, escort, transport) was, not who used it. A ship's usage should be mentioned in "History." Samonic Signatureicon (Talk) 08:12, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
    • I think the ferry's role is sufficiently covered in this section, even indirectly. It's mentioned that it ferries passengers to the city and transports them between stations and spaceports. I could reword it but I don't think it would differ significantly Fixed as per Discord coversation AxMech (talk) 12:24, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
BraxMech
  • You talk about the city on Ferrix, but the Wook treats it as a town in it's own article. Unless there's a mistake, can you switch the instances of city to town?
    • Don't think that the location was ever directly referred to as either a town or a city, in any case I changed the references to town to be more in line with wookAxMech (talk)
  • Luthen was a rebel leader, yes, but I wouldn't say he led any specific cell, just the network that many of them were part of.
  • Context for Coruscant?
  • I'd like to recommend swapping the two images, since the one currently in the history is more descriptiony give it's role in presenting the pilot's placement and the one in the description shows the time Luthen was using it.
  • What establishes that Karn and Mosk are posing specifically as grapplers? I didn't clock anything establishing that (though I may have just missed something more obvious).
  • You don't need to mention the EP guide calling it a "ferry" since the audio description already establishes it as one and just "ferry" is a fairly conjectural term as well. On a side note as well (while I didn't bother to amend it) you don't need to link the EP guide in the article body, the reference is enough for that. For instances where you will need to note it, something like "the corresponding episode guide" will work just fine. Braha'tok enthusiast Hello there 22:25, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
    • Addressed!AxMech (talk) 22:47, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
  • I would like to see a few of the ferry's most notable characteristics get mention in the intro
    • Added engines and pilot
  • Can you check the sourcing again? I'm pretty sure a few of the Luthen stuff should be sourced to "That Would Be Me."
    • Fixed
      • Luthen and Willi's convo also takes place in EP2, rather than 3, and the interior isn't properly seen in EP3 either, only in two. Can you reflect those in the Characteristics and History? Braha'tok enthusiast Hello there 00:35, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
        • Fixed
  • The fact the pilot is seated in an elevated cockpit is exclusive to the image caption. Braha'tok enthusiast Hello there 23:39, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
    • Added to the characteristics section.AxMech (talk) 23:54, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
  • The fact Coruscant is a Core Worlds planet is going to need it's own reference.
    • Added USW reference
      • Ok you're on the right track, Core Worlds planet has it's necessary source. But you also need to make sure the rest of the sentence before it doesn't fall under that sourcing, so before "the Core Worlds planet", you need to bring in a reference to Narkina 5, which establishes that Vel was departing Ferrix. Braha'tok enthusiastHello there 08:54, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
  • Where are you getting the "40 passengers" from in Reckoning? Braha'tok enthusiast Hello there 00:35, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
    • Explained AxMech (talk) 00:45, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
      • Looking at File:Ferrix-shuttle-int.png, the sets of four explanation doesn't hold, and the back seating comes down to estimation by the looks of it. I think you should axe the 40 specification and say stuff like "seating for passengers" instead. Braha'tok enthusiast Hello there 08:54, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
        • Explained AxMech (talk) 23:12, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 21:03, 23 December 2022 (UTC)