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Rigosso

(3 ACs/3 Users/6 Total)

Support

  1. Good job. -- Dr. Porter Resistance starbird (Talk|Contribs) 08:53, October 18, 2016 (UTC)
  2. ACvote Imperators II(Talk) 06:18, October 30, 2016 (UTC)
  3. ACvote IFYLOFD (Talk) 02:52, November 9, 2016 (UTC)
  4. --Lewisr (talk) 19:06, January 12, 2017 (UTC)
  5. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 02:17, February 4, 2017 (UTC)
  6. ACvote Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:26, April 27, 2017 (UTC)

Object

Dr. Porter

Looking pretty good, though I found some minor mistakes.

  • Pretty common mistake because of its counter-intuitive nature, but "itergalactic" should be changed to "intragalactic". Though, it's use in the intoduction should be removed all together because of its redundancy "intragalactic Clone Wars waged through the galaxy".
    • Hm, that's a new one, but I like the sound of it. Fixed.
  • "dictator" should probably be linked to Politics#Dictatorship.
    • Done.
  • For the 600,000 credits figure, you should be citing Rigosso's encyclopedia entry.
    • That does make more sense. Consider it done.
  • "Rigosso introduced himself and Lord Blank to the bounty hunters and briefed the bounty hunters on the mission objectives,..." best to change the second mention of "bounty hunters" to just "the group" or something similar so that it reads better.
    • Ah, I do try to avoid that usually. Thanks and fixed.
  • I don't think change of heart is hyphenated, though I could be mistaken.
    • No, you're right. Fixed.
  • "...concerned with Sodi's safety, is was only in the interest of Blank..." "is" should be changed to "it".
    • Whoops, fixed.
  • "eyes" should be linked to Eye.
    • Done.
  • Bounty's episode number and date of release should be included in BTS. -- Dr. Porter Resistance starbird (Talk|Contribs) 05:55, October 17, 2016 (UTC)
Imperators II
Floyd
  • Context on the Kage Warriors? IFYLOFD (Talk) 04:10, November 7, 2016 (UTC)
Toprawa
  • IIRC, Otua Blank isn't present at the initial meeting between bounty hunters and Rigosso, but this sentence makes it sound like he's there. I would suggest either rewording it or removing the bit about introducing Blank: "Rigosso introduced himself and Lord Blank to the bounty hunters and briefed the group on the mission objectives..."
    • Reworded.
  • I'd like to see the article detail his weaponry and clothing in an Equipment section. For example, he's definitely wearing some kind of upper-torso/shoulder armor. I'd also detail whatever emblem that is on his chest, or at least mention the emblem if we don't know what it is.
    • Just to clarify this a little more for what I'm looking for, his outfit is definitely supposed to be a military uniform, in accordance with him being a major in Otua Blank's service. That's how it should be presented. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 13:37, April 26, 2017 (UTC)
      • The emblem isn't identified, but it's probably Blank's faction. I just mentioned what it was and what color it is. Otherwise, I added the section.
        • Perfect. Very well done. I added a redlink for tunic, which you should create, since we have a Legends counterpart. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:11, April 26, 2017 (UTC)
        • Reminder that you should still create an article to kill this redlinks. All redlinks need to be resolved per nomination rules. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:00, April 27, 2017 (UTC)
          • Although I can still make the article, after Googling tunic I realized it's not as broad of a term for clothing as I thought it was (No clothing expert, after all). Rigosso has more a form fitting bodysuit, and Tunics seems to be more Lord of the Ring-ish. Probably closer to what Luke's white Tatooine garb is. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 17:58, April 27, 2017 (UTC)
          • No, yah, I still made the article. But I reworded the equipment section. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 18:05, April 27, 2017 (UTC)
  • Where in the episode guide does it provide the date for the episode's airing? I'm not seeing it.
    • I think it may have been originally linked to the original episode guide, which does not seem to be accessible on the Wayback Machine. Unfortunately, the source on the page for "Bounty" also lacks a date, being the same as mine. Although IMDB isn't treated as a reliable source all the time, I'm wondering if we could use it here for the date, given that the episode's IMDB page is officially linked from the Episode Guide.
      • The original episode guide is still on Wayback Machine. I hunted it down, but I don't see the date on there anywhere. And IMDb is never a reliable source. As I explained to someone recently, they're actually worse than Wikipedia, since their content is open-source but they don't make their contributors add citations to their additions, as if we're just supposed to accept that the information is reliable because it's on IMDb. Star Wars: The Clone Wars: Episode Guide is a reliable source, however. I presume it provides an air date, but you would need to actually check it to be sure. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:11, April 26, 2017 (UTC)
        • Its there, I previously checked it while nominating milodon. - Imperial Information Office AV-6R7Crew Pit 17:38, April 26, 2017 (UTC)
          • If the date's not on the older guide (Which I was unable to access somehow), then I must have done the foolish thing and just copied from the episode page here. But it seems AV has confirmed it for us (Thanks!). --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 06:20, April 27, 2017 (UTC)
  • So the character's name is mentioned in the episode or at least listed in the credits? Just want to make sure. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 13:20, April 26, 2017 (UTC)
  • I notice the Databank specifically states that Rigosso hired the bounty hunters. This should be included in this sentence: "For a fee of 600,000 credits, a team of six bounty hunters led by the up-and-coming hunter Boba Fett agreed to come to Quarzite..." Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:11, April 26, 2017 (UTC)
  • Looking back at this revision you made, "Although accommodating to the bounty hunters, he did not appreciate the hunters nosing about the cargo. In addition to shutting down their inquiries about the cargo, Rigosso threatened the hunters with punishment if they failed to ensure its safe delivery." is a lot more wordier than the original version, "Although accommodating to the bounty hunters, he did not appreciate the hunters nosing about the cargo and threatened them with punishment if they failed to ensure its safe delivery.", without adding any meaningful difference to that sentence. You basically just added thirteen more words to say the exact same thing. I would suggest just reverting back to the original version, since I can't really see a more concise way of saying that. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 15:01, April 27, 2017 (UTC)
    • Yah, it's probably not the best addition, so I'll remove it. I think I was trying to be more specific but it's more confusing. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 17:53, April 27, 2017 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 20:26, April 27, 2017 (UTC)


  • Seeing as it could come up, I also wanted to ask if there should be a page for the Belugan government/organization. They rule the planet and have some kind of military system. They also have the emblem as seen on Rigosso's chest plate. Not sure it would be something to make a page for or if it's something for the page on Quarzite in general, under a politics section. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 06:25, October 17, 2016 (UTC)
    • Personally, I like having pages for those sorts of things so that they can be categorized and linked to, but like you said, the information could be covered in the Quarzite article. -- Dr. Porter Resistance starbird (Talk|Contribs) 08:53, October 18, 2016 (UTC)
Dates

So... Should I math out a date for Rigosso's death? Though, I'm not sure if "One year into the Clone Wars" means 22 BBY or 21 BBY. So maybe not. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 04:23, November 6, 2016 (UTC)

  • Shouldn't it be 20 BBY per this forum? Imperators II(Talk) 07:03, November 6, 2016 (UTC)
    • You're right, I see. Hm, I'm not sure how to write out the notes, and with something apparently called "War On Quarzite" (according to the Atlas' appearances section) I might just have to find a copy of this myself or ask around. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 22:08, November 6, 2016 (UTC)
      • Well, I sort of have one general Date note, now. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 23:02, November 7, 2016 (UTC)
        • Correct me if I'm wrong, but the first three sentences of the note look redundant now. Imperators II(Talk) 07:52, November 8, 2016 (UTC)
          • I believe it depends on what the Atlas actually says. It may only mention events from the surrounding episodes, at which point we need only to consult the Episode Order Guide. Alternatively, the book supposedly mentions a "War on Quarzite," which I'm guessing is the Belugan-Kage conflict that is so far unconfirmed in its scale. Otherwise we can probably just cite the date of the war in the Atlas and leave it at that. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 15:27, November 8, 2016 (UTC)
            • Have you found out what the Atlas actually says? Imperators II(Talk) 15:05, January 12, 2017 (UTC)
              • No, but thanks for reminding me. A quick library check didn't seem to have it, so either I'll have to buy a copy when I can just ask around. Probably the latter first, though I think I'd rather read it myself. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 15:45, January 12, 2017 (UTC)
                • I have the book, all it says about the war is 'It's inhabitants the Belugans and the Kage fought a long war for control of the underground crystal caverns', I did include that when I originally made the page here but since then other stuff has been added to include TCW stuff. --Lewisr (talk) 15:51, January 12, 2017 (UTC)
                  • So there's no specific date or timeframe other than concurrent to the Clone Wars? --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 15:56, January 12, 2017 (UTC)
                    • No dates are mentioned in the book I'm afraid --Lewisr (talk) 16:04, January 12, 2017 (UTC)
                      • What about the events in The Citadel or the battle of Murkhana? I'm trying to figure out how/if the date note should be rewritten.
                        • Nothing on those either, the events of "Massacre" and "A War on Two Fronts" are both placed in 20 BBY, I guess the fact that from the episode order Bounty is placed between them you could use that as a note or something? --Lewisr (talk) 18:16, January 12, 2017 (UTC)
  • (Indent Reset) Makes sense. So, I've rewritten the note, and I hope that makes sense and doesn't seem to bloated or confusing. If not, then I suppose it can be then added to the other "Bounty" related pages.--Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 19:03, January 12, 2017 (UTC)
Article for Belugan Faction
  • I was trying to keep an eye on a page for the WoQ, but it got by me. Someone added a redlink for a possible article on the Blank's faction, which I had considered up above. I was wondering if anyone else had any thoughts on actually creating the page, or if I should forgo it. It would certainly belong on this article. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 15:59, January 12, 2017 (UTC)
    • I feel like if it doesn't have a canonical name, it can probably just be described on the Quarzite page. Imperators II(Talk) 20:21, January 12, 2017 (UTC)