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Rennek
- Nominated by: Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 02:19, October 5, 2016 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: First in a long time
(3 ACs/4 Users/7 Total)
Support
- Rennek's a lot more scruffy lookin' than this article. -- Dr. Porter
(Talk|Contribs) 07:06, October 5, 2016 (UTC)
Imperators II(Talk) 12:20, October 6, 2016 (UTC)- Ayrehead02 (talk) 08:18, November 11, 2016 (UTC)
- Cevan
(talk) 16:08, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
- —Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 14:59, January 27, 2017 (UTC)
Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 12:28, April 26, 2017 (UTC)
1358 (Talk) 13:43, April 26, 2017 (UTC)
Object
Imperators II
"Boushh" didn't bargain with Jabba for Solo's freedom, but rather for the bounty of Chewbacca.- Fixed, elaborated about the negotiation and her true intent later.
I'm not sure what the last two sentences of the Biography section have to do with Rennek.Imperators II(Talk) 16:47, October 5, 2016 (UTC)- Rennek was there when Leia threatened Jabba with a thermal detonator. As for the last sentence, it's just the closure for Leia that evening. We don't see Rennek during that so I guess it could be removed. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 23:43, October 5, 2016 (UTC)
- Meh. I guess it can stay, if only because it complements the "ostensibly" bit. Imperators II(Talk) 12:20, October 6, 2016 (UTC)
- Rennek was there when Leia threatened Jabba with a thermal detonator. As for the last sentence, it's just the closure for Leia that evening. We don't see Rennek during that so I guess it could be removed. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 23:43, October 5, 2016 (UTC)
Toprawa
With regards to Legends material, we longer apply our self-created "ambiguously canonical" label to items. Something is either canon or non-canon. You should move the Lapti Nek video into the Appearances list and detail whatever information comes from it in the article body. If there's nothing to say in the Bio, the BTS could certainly mention something.Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:09, October 5, 2016 (UTC)- Done. That music video was just an alternate angle of the original Lapti Nek that was later replaced by Jedi Rocks. Doesn't seem to be any real new info worth putting into the article text. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 23:43, October 5, 2016 (UTC)
- I would still prefer to see something mentioned in the BTS so the reader isn't wondering what that music video is all about. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 14:28, April 25, 2017 (UTC)
- I believe Lapti Nek should also come before ROTJ in the Appearances list, since that would be before his ROTJ appearance. Am I wrong? Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 14:36, April 25, 2017 (UTC)
- Behind the scenes note added as well as changing appearance order.
- Nice job. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 12:06, April 26, 2017 (UTC)
- Behind the scenes note added as well as changing appearance order.
- Done. That music video was just an alternate angle of the original Lapti Nek that was later replaced by Jedi Rocks. Doesn't seem to be any real new info worth putting into the article text. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 23:43, October 5, 2016 (UTC)
Referencing issues. This entire bit is sourced to the CCG card: "...he had found employment as a nerf herder for crime lord Jabba the Hutt on the planet Tatooine and personally oversaw the herding of Jabba's nerfs." The CCG card says nothing about "employment," which implies financial compensation; it doesn't say Jabba is a crime lord or a Hutt; and it doesn't outwardly state he's on Tatooine. These pieces of information are not self-sourcing and will need to be properly referenced. Please fix this, and I will continue with my review.Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 14:28, April 25, 2017 (UTC)- Sourced Jabba being a Hutt on Tatooine, changed employment to work as both CCG and Who's Who make no explicity mention of employment or being paid.
- FWIW, it seems that the old Databank links on here are obsolete, but here is the site in question which I used as a source. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 02:39, April 26, 2017 (UTC)
- Instead of using that old, dead Databank entry, why not use a more recent source? CSWE would be better here. The Jabba entry probably has everything you need. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 12:06, April 26, 2017 (UTC)
- FWIW, it seems that the old Databank links on here are obsolete, but here is the site in question which I used as a source. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 02:39, April 26, 2017 (UTC)
- Sourced Jabba being a Hutt on Tatooine, changed employment to work as both CCG and Who's Who make no explicity mention of employment or being paid.
It appears there are multiple opportunities to grab another picture of Rennek for use in the article body.Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 14:38, April 25, 2017 (UTC)- Picture uploaded. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 01:26, April 26, 2017 (UTC)
JangFett
Perhaps you can beef up that intro. Add another sentence or two to be proportional to the bio."when several allies of the Hutt's prisoner, Han Solo," Are you sure Han was Jabba's only prisoner? This also applies to the similarly worded biography sentence"The Human male Rennek lived during the Galactic Civil War fought between the Alliance to Restore the Republic and Galactic Empire." Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but the way this is worded makes it seem that he's fighting for both the Rebels and Empire.- Hi Hanzo JangFett (Talk) 03:13, October 17, 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Jang. Welcome back. All objections taken care of. Note that I wrote of Leia's intentions of freeing Solo in the intro as, while it wasn't what she communicated to Jabba, it was still her true purpose of going to the palace. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 13:51, October 17, 2016 (UTC)
Ayrehead
Could you mention where in the throne room he is? Since there are so many extras in Jabba's palace I've always thought it useful to direct readers as to where to look for the character.Ayrehead02 (talk) 15:54, November 10, 2016 (UTC)- Updated.
I'd actually go a little further with the final sentence of the biography and include that Jabba is killed, since this seems relevant to Rennek given his employment.Ayrehead02 (talk) 15:54, November 10, 2016 (UTC)- Particularly given how after Leia's arrival we don't see Rennek again nor do we see him on the sail barge, I kind of think that's kind of too much passage of time with Rennek not being so much as seen or mentioned by other stuff to continue his biography beyond Leia's capture. I think Jabba's article obviously mentioning his fate is enough. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 01:10, November 11, 2016 (UTC)
Exiled Jedi
The BTS should have a note about this character's likeness being used for another character in the Rebellion Era Sourcebook.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 17:57, January 1, 2017 (UTC)- Initially I had thought that, though I came to actually see that book uses several out of context images of characters placed throughout the book. For instance, along with the entry for a typical Espo trooper, they used an image of McCracken in the Falcon. They also used Yorr's image next to the entry of Mar Barezz. Unless those are also considered to be uses of the movie extras' images to represent different characters, some even of different allegiances. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 10:57, January 14, 2017 (UTC)
- With a little further digging, I also see that sourcebook uses a picture of the Royal Guards accompanying the entry for Coruscant Guard, seemingly solidifying my realization that not all of its images are actually meant to accompany the entries. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 11:06, January 14, 2017 (UTC)
- Added a sentence discussing that. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 03:46, January 16, 2017 (UTC)
- With a little further digging, I also see that sourcebook uses a picture of the Royal Guards accompanying the entry for Coruscant Guard, seemingly solidifying my realization that not all of its images are actually meant to accompany the entries. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 11:06, January 14, 2017 (UTC)
- Initially I had thought that, though I came to actually see that book uses several out of context images of characters placed throughout the book. For instance, along with the entry for a typical Espo trooper, they used an image of McCracken in the Falcon. They also used Yorr's image next to the entry of Mar Barezz. Unless those are also considered to be uses of the movie extras' images to represent different characters, some even of different allegiances. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 10:57, January 14, 2017 (UTC)
Ecks Dee
This is minor, but... "He found work as a nerf herder for[3] the Hutt crime lord[4] Jabba Desilijic Tiure[3] on the planet Tatooine[4] and personally oversaw the herding of Jabba's nerfs.[3]" A single sentence sourced with five references even though you're only using two sources. Please see if you can reorder this, as excessive and unnecessary references really break up the flow of the text.1358 (Talk) 13:36, April 26, 2017 (UTC)- Split into 2 sentences, reordered. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 13:40, April 26, 2017 (UTC)
Comments
Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 13:43, April 26, 2017 (UTC)
- From rewatching the film scenes, while Reshad and Thryss are visible surrounding Luke's arrival and fight with the Rancor, Rennek is not. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 02:19, October 5, 2016 (UTC)