Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/Palmer

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Palmer

• Nominated by: Corellian Premier^{All along the watchtower} 15:22, October 2, 2010 (UTC)
• Nomination comments: Former CAN and Battle for Naboo redshirt.

(0 ACs/2 Users/2 Total)

Support

1. Clone Commander Lee ^Talk 18:00, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
2. SoresuMakashi^{(Everything I tell you is a lie)} 00:27, October 20, 2010 (UTC)

Object

Lee attacks

• Naboo needs to be linked in the infobox.
  • Done. Corellian Premier^{All along the watchtower} 21:40, October 3, 2010 (UTC)
• Add the place of death (over Naboo) to the infobox.
  • Added. Corellian Premier^{All along the watchtower} 21:40, October 3, 2010 (UTC)
• The last two sentences in the intro begin with She. Change one.
  • Corellian Premier^{All along the watchtower} 21:40, October 3, 2010 (UTC)Changed. Corellian Premier^{All along the watchtower} 21:40, October 3, 2010 (UTC)
• Intro needs some expansion.
  • What other details should I add? Corellian Premier^{All along the watchtower} 21:40, October 3, 2010 (UTC)
    • E.g. that the her final battle was in orbit about Naboo.
      • Added. Corellian Premier^{All along the watchtower} 21:32, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
• Something about her origin (born on Naboo, female, time) in the bio.
  • Details included. Corellian Premier^{All along the watchtower} 21:40, October 3, 2010 (UTC)
• She was later rescued by fellow officer Gavyn Sykes. No more info about this?
  • No other details provided. Corellian Premier^{All along the watchtower} 21:40, October 3, 2010 (UTC)
• Context needed for Coruscant.
  • Added, but it doesn't seem to fit. Corellian Premier^{All along the watchtower} 01:32, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
    • Take a look.
• Palmer was stationed at a Naboo resistance base on the south ridge of the capital city Theed. Capital city of what? Naboo? Coruscant? Rishi?
  • Naboo. Corellian Premier^{All along the watchtower} 21:40, October 3, 2010 (UTC)
• and she contacted Sykes for assistance. And? What happenend?
  • Section expanded. Corellian Premier^{All along the watchtower} 21:40, October 3, 2010 (UTC)
  • Eh, the "and" here is just fine. The base was attacked and she contacted Sykes for help… Jonjedigrandmaster ^(Talk) 16:03, October 2, 2010 (UTC)
    • The "and" was a question about what happened, Jon. :P Clone Commander Lee ^Talk 16:08, October 2, 2010 (UTC)
      • Ah, I misunderstood what you were saying. It sounded like you were questioning the and itself. Sorry, my mistake. Jonjedigrandmaster ^(Talk) 17:29, October 2, 2010 (UTC)
• she flew in an N-1 Starfighter with Bravo Squadron to attack the Trade Federation's Droid Control Ship. Where was this ship?
  • Added. Corellian Premier^{All along the watchtower} 21:40, October 3, 2010 (UTC)
• She was killed during the space battle when her fighter was caught in a tractor beam and pulled into range of the control ship's guns. Some explanation how she was killed is needed there. (Killed by fighters or by the cannons?)
  • Well, she is hit by the cannons and screams, so she is dead. And if she wasn't, she'd be dead when she hit the planet. An explanation has been added to the article. Corellian Premier^{All along the watchtower} 21:40, October 3, 2010 (UTC)
• As a pilot flying for the people of Naboo, Palmer was dedicated to the Queen and was not afraid to die for a cause she believed in. For a cause who belived in? Palmer or the queen?
  • That was fluff I added, so I changed around the P&T section. Corellian Premier^{All along the watchtower} 21:40, October 3, 2010 (UTC)
• Take care of this objections and I take another look. Clone Commander Lee ^Talk 15:33, October 2, 2010 (UTC)
  • Thanks for taking the time for the review. You can look over the changes and let me know what works. Corellian Premier^{All along the watchtower} 21:40, October 3, 2010 (UTC)
    • No problem. Clone Commander Lee ^Talk 17:19, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
• Just one thing: Why did they attack they droid control ship? Clone Commander Lee ^Talk 17:30, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
  • Explained. Corellian Premier^{All along the watchtower} 21:32, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

Soresu

• Quick question: was she the leader of the flash speeder squad?
  • Actually, yes. Clarified. Thanks. Corellian Premier^{All along the watchtower} 00:29, October 10, 2010 (UTC)
    • Also could use a P&T note: She possessed the skills necessary to lead a squad of Flash Speeders. SoresuMakashi^{(Everything I tell you is the truth)} 00:32, October 10, 2010 (UTC)
      • Finally added. Corellian Premier^{All along the watchtower} 18:49, October 19, 2010 (UTC)
• Otherwise well written. SoresuMakashi^{(Everything I tell you is a lie)} 13:08, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

Xd1358

• Do you know for certain that she became an officer in 32 BBY? Since the first sentence in the bio seems to imply that.
  • Now reads "by 32" Corellian Premier^{All along the watchtower}
• Also, 32 BBY needs to be sourced?
  • Done. Hmn. Corellian Premier^{All along the watchtower}
• Article for the base? "…Palmer was stationed at a Naboo resistance base on the south ridge of the capital city of Naboo, Theed."
  • Forthcoming. Corellian Premier^{All along the watchtower}
    • Please note that this objection will reach the inactivity limit in a few days. 1358 ^(Talk) 20:17, November 16, 2010 (UTC)
      • I'm giving you 48 hours to fix this objection before a removal vote will be initiated. 1358 ^(Talk) 20:43, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
        • Oops. Missed the memo. :( Fixed now. Corellian Premier^{All along the watchtower} 21:17, November 23, 2010 (UTC)
• "She was killed during the space battle when her fighter was caught in a tractor beam. As she called for assistance, she was pulled into range of the control ship's guns, which knocked out her fighter's engines and killed her.^[3]" First you say she died and then you give detail. Please make that better.
  • Sure. Corellian Premier^{All along the watchtower}
• "At times though, her skills were not up to par with reality and she required rescue by her comrades. When her base came under attack, she repeatedly called for reinforcements.^[3]" Sure she wasn't just outnumbered or something? You can't know for certain that she wasn't good enough to face the TF army, if you know what I mean.
  • Offending sentences merged and redirected. Corellian Premier^{All along the watchtower}
• Possibly more to come. 1358 ^(Talk) 21:24, November 6, 2010 (UTC)
  • Bring 'em on. Famous last words. Corellian Premier^{All along the watchtower}
• "During the conflict, she was captured by the Trade Federation and later released by her fellow officer…" I'm not familiar with the source, but is there enough material to create articles for the capture and/or the release?
  • Nope, just a passing mention in the CSWE. Corellian Premier^{All along the watchtower} 21:59, November 14, 2010 (UTC)
• "Palmer went on to participate in several of the conflicts waged on Naboo during the invasion, and was killed in orbit over Naboo during the final battle to secure the planet." Sounds a bit weird, specifically the second part. Perhaps another transition word such as 'but' would be better? Like "…invastion, but she was…"
  • Does my edit work? Corellian Premier^{All along the watchtower}
    • I still think that 'but' would work better than 'and'. 1358 ^(Talk) 20:17, November 16, 2010 (UTC)
      • Sure. Changed. Corellian Premier^{All along the watchtower}
• I don't think you can source the first sentence of the bio to NEC.
  • I suppose not. Added another source to the sentence. Corellian Premier^{All along the watchtower}
• Context on Naboo? Yeah, while the majority of the readers know what Naboo is, some small context, like planet would be good.
  • Nothing in the bio... 1358 ^(Talk) 20:17, November 16, 2010 (UTC)
    • Added. Corellian Premier^{All along the watchtower} 21:17, November 23, 2010 (UTC)
• Same as the captured/released objection…
  • Sure. Corellian Premier^{All along the watchtower}
• "…where the Queen was trying to recruit help from the Galactic Senate…" Uh, please find a better word than recruit—it just doesn't fit.
  • Switched. Corellian Premier^{All along the watchtower}
    • Well, that doesn't really work either. Something like "pledge her people's case to the Senate" would work better IMO. 1358 ^(Talk) 20:17, November 16, 2010 (UTC)
      • Hmn. Did you add the context on Coruscant? Corellian Premier^{All along the watchtower}
        • No, I haven't added anything IIRC. Anywho, the current wording does not work. It sounds like she was trying to end an invasion in the senate. 1358 ^(Talk) 22:45, November 26, 2010 (UTC)
• 1358 ^(Talk) 20:35, November 13, 2010 (UTC)

Comments

1. The credits list Samantha Paris as playing "RSF officer 2." It has to be Palmer. Corellian Premier^{All along the watchtower} 15:22, October 2, 2010 (UTC)

Vote to remove nomination (AC only)

Starting removal vote per comments above. One of my objection has been outstanding for almost three weeks now; the nominator said he will fix it, however, nothing has happened. 1358 ^(Talk) 20:52, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

• Nominator fixed it in the last second, it seems. 1358 ^(Talk) 21:13, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

1. Nominator has announced his departure from the site on a lengthy vacation and concedes the forfeiture of his existing nominations. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:22, November 30, 2010 (UTC)
2. Grand Moff Tranner ^(Comlink) 00:07, December 1, 2010 (UTC)
3. CC7567 ^(talk) 05:42, December 1, 2010 (UTC)