Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/PZ-7

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PZ-7

Nominated by: Cevan (talk) 15:44, August 6, 2017 (UTC)
Nomination comments: Wrote this up some time ago but I wasn't able to nominate it back then, so here it is now.

(4 ACs/1 Users/5 Total)

Support

Nice! - Tommy-Macaroni ^(Talk) 17:42, August 6, 2017 (UTC)
Imperators II^(Talk) 15:09, August 28, 2017 (UTC)
Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:13, September 22, 2017 (UTC)
1358 ^(Talk) 15:42, September 23, 2017 (UTC)
Now that we have all the references and sources sorted out, we can work on the other DAD articles. :P MasterFred^(Whatever) 03:51, September 24, 2017 (UTC)

Object

Imperators II

~~Is PZ-7 identified as an RA-7 protocol droid in the episode? If not, the name will have to be sourced to something else.~~
- She is not. What exactly should I source that information to/how should I go about doing that? Cevan (talk) 19:55, August 13, 2017 (UTC)
  - So what you have is an episode which shows a droid that you think looks like an RA-7. What you need is a work that connects an image of such a droid with that name. What you're looking for is most probably one of the canon reference books which describes RA-7 droids. You can check out, for example, the sources that the other current RA-7 GA nomination uses for general info about the RA-7 line. When you find a source, just reference the "RA-7 protocol droid" in the body and the infobox to it.
    - I've gone ahead and added that in. In case you're curious, the reason I chose those particular sources were because RA-7s are depicted slightly differently in Rebels. Cevan (talk) 17:24, August 27, 2017 (UTC)
~~Looking at the article in the Oasis skin, the Bio section could use another image. Maybe one of AP-5 meeting PZ-7?~~ Imperators II^(Talk) 14:49, August 13, 2017 (UTC)
- Added. Cevan (talk) 19:55, August 13, 2017 (UTC)
  - Nice. Imperators II^(Talk) 06:35, August 14, 2017 (UTC)
So PZ's COMPNOR affiliation is infobox-exclusive. I'd suggest just removing it, though. Remember that you don't necessarily have to include all the affiliation hierarchy in the infobox. Toprawa said it well here - go no deeper than two or three bullets in the Affiliations field and only list the critical stuff that you actually mention in the article. Imperators II^(Talk) 20:15, August 27, 2017 (UTC)
- Got it—I've gone ahead and removed COMPNOR from the infobox. Cevan (talk) 14:50, August 28, 2017 (UTC)

Toprawa

I notice the article capitalizes "Rebel" throughout, but I know just from observation that New Canon has opted to not capitalize the term in all instances unless it's referring to the "Rebel Alliance" proper. In other words, saying PZ-7 is an "Imperial-turned-rebel" droid should be formatted as such, as should all other similar cases. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:35, August 28, 2017 (UTC)
- Actually, the formal Alliance to Restore the Republic was officially founded in the previous episode, "Secret Cargo". - AV-6R7^{Crew Pit} 19:09, August 28, 2017 (UTC)
  - That doesn't change the fact that sources are universally lower-casing the terms "rebel" and I believe "rebellion" in pretty much all instances, even in reference to the Rebel Alliance proper. I encourage you to open up sources yourself and check, and you can tell me if I'm wrong. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:55, August 28, 2017 (UTC)
    - I've checked a number of canon sources (Aftermath, Smuggler's Run: A Han Solo & Chewbacca Adventure, Star Wars Propaganda: A History of Persuasive Art in the Galaxy, and Battlefront: Twilight Company to name a few) and in all of them "rebel" when used in reference to the Rebel Alliance is lowercased, however "Rebellion" is capitalized. I've gone ahead and updated the PZ-7 article accordingly. Cevan (talk) 14:40, September 7, 2017 (UTC)
Reference 6 cannot work as self-sourcing. You need to explain according to what source Steps into Shadow takes place in 2 BBY; note also, for that matter, that we're now using the BBY/ABY system for Canon, so you should use that nomenclature.
- I fixed this for you after encountering the same issue in Killun 71. For the record, we only know according to Pablo's tweet that this stuff takes place circa 2 BBY, not definitively "in" 2 BBY. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 03:27, September 22, 2017 (UTC)
I think the quotes would work better if you incorporated the Characteristics quote into the Bio (assuming those two pieces go together) and use the "drone" line in the Char. That does more to illustrate her "personality."
- I'm happy to cover for Cevan until they return. This seems to have already been dealt with. Ayrehead02 (talk) 18:04, September 22, 2017 (UTC)
It's redundant and unnecessary to repeat a character's sex/gender in the Bio and Personality and traits/Characteristics, especially in an article this short. Since the Char. is already referring to her using female pronouns, it becomes even that more redundant. Just remove that part from the Char.
- Quotes fixed per discussion in IRC. Ayrehead02 (talk) 18:04, September 22, 2017 (UTC)
I've changed the air date reference to TV.com, which is run by CBS and therefore more authoritative. It also specifically says the episode aired on Disney XD, which the other website did not. I've omitted the archive field for now, because Wayback Machine is down. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 21:43, September 7, 2017 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 03:51, September 24, 2017 (UTC)

It might interest you to know that Rebel Rising uses "RA-7 inventory droid" as an alternate name for the RA-7. - AV-6R7^{Crew Pit} 20:36, August 27, 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks AV! Cevan (talk) 14:50, August 28, 2017 (UTC)

Vote to remove nomination (AC only)

~~Apologies to Cevan -- idle objections have now surpassed two weeks, making this nomination eligible for inactive removal.~~ Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 16:31, September 22, 2017 (UTC)

~~1358 ^(Talk) 16:44, September 22, 2017 (UTC)~~