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Liberation of Bespin

  • Nominated by: RogueWhistler (talk) 16:04, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
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Support

  1. ACvote JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 18:39, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
  2. Herasoars (talk) 01:44, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
  3. ACvote Good work! UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 12:33, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
  4. I love a well-written battle article! AxMech (talk) 14:32, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
  5. ACvote Commander Code-8 Hello There! 11:08, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Object

Samonic
  • Welcome to the GAN! (Review note) You've done a nice work expanding the article. After an initial look, this is what I could find:
    • Is the article's title conjectural? If so, please add {{Conjecture}}. If not, you shouldn't bold liberated and instead should say "Liberation of Bespin" was fought blah blah."
      • The sources section indicates it was first identified as Liberation of Bespin in Chyler, Tian in the Databank. Supreme Emperor Holocomm 17:19, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
    • Can you date the Battle of Endor and the occupation of Bespin?
    • Can you specify that the Galactic Civil War was fought between the Empire and the Rebels?
    • Please vary your language when referring to characters, such as X2 and Lando. X2 could be identified as "the Jedi Knight," "the clone," "the Force-sensitive," etc. Lando could be identified as "Calrissian," "the baron administrator," "the general," etc.
    • Please specify the class of the Star Destroyer that participated in the battle in the article's body.
    • BTS: You should only mention the liberation's first mention and appearance, everything else that isn't the Imperial Remnant bit should be removed. (Including book publishers, we only mention authors.) Samonic Signatureicon (Talk) 16:26, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
      • How does it look now? RogueWhistler (talk) 17:54, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
        • It looks much better! I've fixed it myself this time, but you should note that we don't use first names after a character's first mention unless there's multiple people with the same second name/surname. Also, does Star Wars (1977) 57 date the occupation of Bespin? I'm not really familiar with Legends comics and want to make sure. Samonic Signatureicon (Talk) 18:13, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
          • Do you mean the Ugnaught rebellion? SW #57 itself doesn't, but the NEC has the time period it occurred in as 3-3.5 ABY. Is the year fine, or should I mention that it's the first half? I imagine that Lando's Commandos are an exception to the first name thing, but "his commandos" works just as well. RogueWhistler (talk) 18:21, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
            • The commandos are indeed an exception. Samonic Signatureicon (Talk) 17:30, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
Spooky
  • (Review note) Nice to see some fresh faces on the GAN!
  • Some context needed for Endor, Bakura, and Black Sun.
  • Might the intro be expanded a tad for an article of this size?
    • I'd actually had a go at expanding it already, is there anything specific that's missing? RogueWhistler (talk) 22:05, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
      • The into mentions that Calrissian reclaimed his position as Baron Administrator and briefly covers who helped him, but otherwise does not include any detail about the liberation itself. That it was a months-long campaign against a varying assortment of Imperial forces, that rescuing Lobot was a main objective, and that there were casualties are also not mentioned. Though it does mention that control was taken from the general then eventually seized back, it also doesn't mention a few things that the article does describe as "vital", such as the bit about Willrow Hood. Should be able to fit an intro that has two smaller sized paragraphs for an article of this size.—spookywillowwtalk 00:18, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Does the attempted Black Sun resurgence have an article? If possible that should be added; and that sentence could be cleaned up a bit as well, as it's a tad of a run-on.
    • I guess it's Shadows of the Empire: Evolution. Hk 47 (talk) 08:32, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
      • More rather, I’d meant - is there an in-universe event article for this to link?—spookywillowwtalk 12:28, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
    • It doesn't seem to, and I haven't read that comic, but I could probably make a stub for it based on The New Essential Guide to Characters' information, assuming it's notable. RogueWhistler (talk) 22:05, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
      • I've not read into it either, but if it's to be mentioned as part of this article, it'd be amazing if you could research that for verification then make the stub (or find the existing article, if the novel's page already has it).—spookywillowwtalk 00:18, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
  • In "The liberation", the linking for the characters in the quote caption are unnecessary, as both Lando and X2 have their links introduced elsewhere in the article.
  • Similarly, for the top article quote, Ackbar could be worked into the article body, rendering his and Solo's links unnecessary in the quote caption. Linking there is only really optimal when absolutely necessary; in this case there's enough relevance to simply work it in.
  • Has The Truce at Bakura (audiobook) been checked?
  • I'd like to see a publisher listed for that video game in the BtS.
  • Unsourced infobox field.
  • Sentinel-class landing craft is infobox-exclusive (has to be in the article body itself, not just the image caption); 5 ABY as a year is also infobox-only.
  • Per the quote under "The liberation"; the concept that Lobot was key to freeing the city isn't mentioned. It would be nice to see that worked in, as it seems relevant (currently, it jumps straight to them moving to have him freed).
  • It would be more precise to list '6 Dark troopers' in the casualties, rather than 'All', more as a consistency type of thing.
    • Done. I'll get the rest when I've got a little more time, thanks for the review! RogueWhistler (talk) 22:05, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
  • I'm seeing some varying missing links and a redirecting link.—spookywillowwtalk 02:43, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
Macaroni
  • Any chance we can get a quote and/or image in the prelude?
    • The leading quote seemed the most appropriate for that section, so I moved some things around. RogueWhistler (talk) 23:17, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
  • The bts needs to mention where the article received identification.
  • Regarding the Imperial Remnant thing: if all of the other sources just say that it's the regular Empire, I think we can write off ES as an error even though it was the first appearance.
  • Does this event have its own entry in the CSWE? If not, the entry that it's mentioned in should be specified in the sources section (WP:S#CSWECite). JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 18:07, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
Kris
  • Not necessarily a total objection, just a point of clarification, because I feel like the last sentence under "Behind the Scenes" is a bit unclear. It took me a moment to understand that it was mentioning a continuity error in the media (I believe?), so I'm not sure, is there a way to word it differently to make this more clear? Feel free to correct me if I'm way off in my understanding/interpretation, of course! Herasoars (talk) 22:11, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
UberSoldat
  • Is there anything in the game that warrants {{Gamemechanics}} here?
    • I don't believe so, based on the usage of it I've seen in the past. Nothing documented in the article is optional content. RogueWhistler (talk) 22:56, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
  • Please add a Mediacat. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 19:47, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
  • One last thing: Per status article precedent, you should identify the level that serves as the focus for this event. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 12:58, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
Code-8 just thought of something

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 11:08, 29 January 2023 (UTC)