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Karlini silk

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Support

  1. Commander Code-8 Hello There! 03:20, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
  2. ACvote More Naboo fashion pls MasterFredCommerce Guild(talk) 10:58, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
  3. ACvote JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 19:53, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
  4. Erebus Chronus (Talk) 04:00, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

Object

Pasta silk
  • You've linked retcon in the bts, but {{Ret}} is not being used. That being said, based on what I'm seeing in the article, I don't think we should be treating this as a retcon, so I'm going to recommend that that link be removed. Let me know if you disagree. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 03:39, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
    • Oh, no if that's not typically linked for this kind of thing, totally happy to remove it; looks like, taking another look at the article, Wook uses a pretty narrow definition of retcon. So yes: removed! Minnabird Naboo (talk) 19:01, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Please check your sourcing in "Fit for a queen." JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 17:08, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
    • Ahh, whoops, fixed that. Minnabird Naboo (talk) 00:07, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
  • Why have you chosen not to mention the other usages of the flame robes, at least briefly? JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 15:25, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
    • The silk is only explicitly linked with the originals; probably the Raiders of the Lost Gundark ones can be presumed to be the same ones, and I can certainly add those, but otherwise, there's not really any reason to assume the senatorial era ones or the ones used by other queens' entourages are made from the exact same material. Minnabird Naboo (talk) 17:34, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
      • In that case, up to you on Lost Gundark, but I'd say that others that are unconfirmed should be removed from the appearances section. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 19:26, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
        • Kept Lost Gundark, and detailed it in the article, lost the rest.Minnabird Naboo (talk) 14:30, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
CC-8
  • We should avoid using the word this in article bodies
    • Adjusted that sentence in the intro. Minnabird Naboo (talk) 03:03, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
      • There's still one in the woven together section Commander Code-8 Hello There! 06:01, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
        • Ah, didn't realize absolutely all instances of "this" were forbidden, still having trouble figuring out what the problem is so I can avoid tripping into it again when rephrasing. I think in this case a less passive phrasing helps? Lmk if that's closer to what you were thinking. Minnabird Naboo (talk) 17:35, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
          • To me I think the writing is smoother without it, its like the word refers back to the article when we should just be referring to the sources we're drawing from. It isn't forbidden but it's a strong preference that's held up for a while. Commander Code-8 Hello There! 03:20, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
  • Needs context for Naboo in the intro Commander Code-8 Hello There! 10:03, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
Fred strikes back
  • The 1stID in the Appearances should be simultaneous with the audiobook, no?
  • Check my copy-edit here to make sure all the changes are ok! MasterFredCommerce Guild(talk) 22:45, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
    • Looks good, thank you. Minnabird Naboo (talk) 00:07, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
UberSoldat
  • I would like to see additional clarification in the infobox title akin to this.
  • Please check Ultimate Star Wars, New Edition for a mention. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 19:23, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
    • I did when I compiled my sources, and did not find it. I want to say that the USW reference was to being in disguise as a handmaiden and I didn't see it recur in USWNE? This is definitely from the flame-colored robe source list. Minnabird Naboo (talk) 20:36, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
OOM
  • I think the infobox title description can be shortened to "(Depicted as fabric used in gowns)"
    • Done.
  • Content in article bodies should be written in an in-universe point of view, so I'd change the image caption under "Fit for a queen" to something like "Queen Amidala and her handmaidens' black gown and orange under-robe were made of Karlini silk."
    • Fixed.
  • All the text in references should be linked to, so several links need to be added to the "Raiders" ref note. OOM 224 19:22, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
    • I'm assuming that's all the links that needed to be added?
  • Missing an image category OOM 224 19:27, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
  • Are the Appearances/Sources lists complete now, or are there still some sources left to check? OOM 224 07:52, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Comments

  • I have listed appearances of Black traveling gown and Flame-colored robes in the spirit of "it's easier to cut back than to expand," as it seems there isn't a consensus on whether to list things made out of a material in the material's appearances. —Unsigned comment by Minnabird (talk • contribs)
  • I'm a bit skeptical that the Sources section is complete. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 19:23, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
    • Ack, omitted two sources when combining flame-colored robes and black traveling gowns and have now also edited to reflect how they treated Karlini silk rather than flame-colored robes, because apparently I didn't actually edit that. Otherwise, I can share my spreadsheet with you if it'll help. Minnabird Naboo (talk) 20:36, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
  • I will continue the review over the weekend. Also, I'd like to see if Minna's happy with the recent edits. OOM 224 19:07, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

Vote to remove nomination (AC only)

  1. ACvote Unaddressed objections from me from 13 days ago. Would be great to see you come back and renom this when you've got the time though. OOM 224 21:51, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
  2. ACvote An objection is over 10 days old again. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 13:50, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  3. ACvote Imperators II(Talk) 19:28, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
ACvote JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 23:30, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
ACvote UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 12:22, 23 November 2021 (UTC)