Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/Hela Madiry

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  • 1 Hela Madiry
    • 1.1 (4 ACs/0 Users/4 Total)
      • 1.1.1 Support votes
      • 1.1.2 Objections
        • 1.1.2.1 Panther
        • 1.1.2.2 spookly
        • 1.1.2.3 Imp
        • 1.1.2.4 Lew
      • 1.1.3 Comments

Hela Madiry

  • Nominated by: ToRsO bOy (talk) 06:02, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments:
  • Date Archived: 02:46, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
  • Final word count: 508 words (115 introduction, 312 body, 81 behind the scenes)
  • Word count at nomination time: 504 words (118 introduction, 316 body, 70 behind the scenes)
  • WookieeProject (optional): WP:NOVELS

(4 ACs/0 Users/4 Total)

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Support votes

  1. ACvote Lewisr (talk) 01:41, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
  2. ACvote —spookywillowwtalk 21:25, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
  3. ACvote CometSmudge (talk) 22:08, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
  4. ACvote Master FredceriqueCommerce Guild(talk) (he/him) 01:01, 13 July 2025 (UTC)

Objections

Panther
  • The 21 BBY date in the infobox should be included in both the intro and bio
    • Added. Not sure if how I sourced it in the bio is ok. ToRsO bOy (talk) 08:27, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
  • With such a clear contradiction, you should use the {{Conflicting}} template here and include a "this article assumes ___ to be the correct series of events" statement in the Bts.
    • Done. ToRsO bOy (talk) 16:16, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
  • It seems like we know the location of her death as the intro says the Logistics center was on Coruscant. If so, please include in the death field and its citation.
    • Added ToRsO bOy (talk) 08:27, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
      • Sorry I wasn’t more clear, per precedent the death field should list the planet she died on, Coruscant, not the logistics center, and should only have one ref. The latter can be accomplished by just including that she died on Coruscant in the existing date note ref, and moving that ref to the end of the section. Example here Panther436 RedNihilEye (talk) 03:30, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
        • Thanks for clarifying. Updated. ToRsO bOy (talk) 09:56, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
  • With the above, I think the bio should more clearly state that the Logistics center was on Coruscant somewhere.
    • Added context on where the logistics center is ToRsO bOy (talk) 08:27, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Don't think both of those images fit in the bio, please pick one.
    • Done. ToRsO bOy (talk) 16:16, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
  • Because the Logistics center is a building and not an organization, it should be removed from the affiliations. The Logistics center article suggests that the center was run by the Republic Defense Procurement Office, just checking if that's not applicable to be included here?
    • I've removed the building from the affiliations. However, the novel doesn't mention the RDPO, but on occasion states stuff like "Not when you hear she works in GAR logistics, no.". A quick scan of the book doesn't mention any other organizations that works in the logistics center so I'm not sure if it's a huge leap to assume? ToRsO bOy (talk) 08:27, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
      • Im good leaving it as is then, thank you for checking Panther436 RedNihilEye (talk) 03:30, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Her affiliation to the Republic is cited to the Encyclopedia in the infobox and Triple Zero in the bio, whereas her affiliation to the CIS is cited to Triple Zero in the infobox and to the Encyclopedia in the bio. These should be made consistent. Panther436 RedNihilEye (talk) 20:28, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
    • Updated. ToRsO bOy (talk) 08:27, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
spookly
  • Unless another source can be found, the wording "first appeared in..." would be better for the BTS instead of "was created by". Something first appearing in a novel doesn't always equate to it necessarily being created by said author in a lot of cases. But if there is some interview or something else in which the author directly says she created Madiry, then that should be used instead.—spookywillowwtalk 17:34, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
    • Updated.ToRsO bOy (talk) 09:56, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
Imp
  • Hmm, just to confirm, which passage from Triple Zero confirms Madiry's species? Imperators II(Talk) 15:45, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
    • This was where he turned left to go to Accounts, to find Hela Madiry, a woman clerk nearing retirement age-just an ordinary woman who happened to have distant cousins on Jabiim. ToRsO bOy (talk) 13:35, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
      • Yes, well, if you're referring to "woman", both "man" and "woman" have been used in Star Wars sources for species other than Human as well. Imperators II(Talk) 20:58, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
        • Oh, didn't know. I thought it automatically implied Human. Would she fall then under Unidentified species or Unspecified?ToRsO bOy (talk) 15:24, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
          • Unspecified. Imperators II(Talk) 17:39, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
            • Updated.ToRsO bOy (talk) 13:55, 9 June 2025 (UTC)
  • I have to say the Equipment section on this article definitely feels unwarranted to me. Imperators II(Talk) 17:30, 13 June 2025 (UTC)
    • Removed.ToRsO bOy (talk) 09:11, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
Lew
  • Question re the date note, does the book say it's a year after the Battle of Geonosis or similar? Lewisr (talk) 01:46, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
    • It didn't say a year exactly, just a note on the start of the chapter where Madiri was killed that it's been 385 days since Geonosis ToRsO bOy (talk) 09:26, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
      • Looking at other status pages from this, Coruscant Security Force Senior Command (also specifically from this book), it seems the date from the book itself has been retconned by The Essential Reader's Companion and using the date from TERC should be preferred Lewisr (talk) 01:25, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
        • Updated.ToRsO bOy (talk) 13:47, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
  • Coruscant is only identified as a planet in the introduction, so should be included in the biography Lewisr (talk) 01:46, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
    • Added ToRsO bOy (talk) 09:26, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 01:01, 13 July 2025 (UTC)