Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/Faa (creature)

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Faa/Legends

• Nominated by: Riffsyphon1024 13:08, January 15, 2014 (UTC)
• Nomination comments: Finally getting this article up to GA status per the Creatures Barn-Burner.

(3 ACs/2 Users/5 Total)

Support

1. —Tommy 9281 Friday, January 17, 2014, 06:26 UTC
2. Sir Cavalier of One^{(Squadron channel)} 21:30, March 16, 2014 (UTC)
3. Cade Calrayn 18:12, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
4. Clone Commander Lee ^Talk 18:21, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
5. Thunderforge (talk) 22:29, April 3, 2014 (UTC)

Object

Welcome back

• You're missing a reference in the infobox.
• Reload the infobox.
• Give a little bit more context on the history section (dat little renowned invasion)
  • More context, who was fighting it.
• The sources section needs to be organized chronologically (by official publishing date).
• Note that page numbers shouldn't be shown in the Sources section (refer to my brief copy-edit to see the mistakes). Will continue this, soon. ;) Winterz (talk) 16:40, January 15, 2014 (UTC)
  • For the most part, these have been addressed. Can you please clarify what you mean by reloading the infobox? -- Riffsyphon1024 10:52, January 16, 2014 (UTC)
    • It means that several parameters of the infobox are missing and that you should reload the template altogether by replacing it with {{Template:Species/preload}} or you can just copy all parameters from the template's page.
      • Ah yes this has been fixed. -- Riffsyphon1024 02:03, March 28, 2014 (UTC)
• I'm sure that information isn't all there is, sir. Episode I Adventures 10: Festival of Warriors is set before Episode I so it would take precendence in what you described in the history section seeing how Faa appear on it. Also, Republic 69 doesn't feature Naboo so there's clearly something amiss there about Faa. Lastly, there has been a recent addition to the sources section so you might want to check that book too. This all should've been done before nominating it, Riff.
• You might also want to take a look at the Layout Guide and fix the article with the correct layout. Winterz (talk) 12:46, January 16, 2014 (UTC)
  • Oh darn. -- Riffsyphon1024 21:25, January 16, 2014 (UTC)
    • The issue revolving around completion of this and other scalefish has been obtaining the sources. I will make another source request on the Barnburner page. -- Riffsyphon1024 03:32, January 17, 2014 (UTC)
      • I have updated the article with info from Adventure 10 and The Gungan Frontier but still need to verify with Dreadnaughts of Rendili. -- Riffsyphon1024 11:21, February 2, 2014 (UTC)
        • It's been a while, Riff. Any further progress in these remaining sources? Winterz (talk) 01:00, February 16, 2014 (UTC)
          • Yes, actually. Unfortunately RL has prevented me from writing said materials in. I would hope to before the end of the month. -- Riffsyphon1024 10:17, February 24, 2014 (UTC)
            • The article has been updated with this material. -- Riffsyphon1024 07:43, February 27, 2014 (UTC)

Ecks Dee

• There are some problems with the references in the article. For one, references always go after punctuation. Secondly, if there are multiple consecutive references, they should be ordered so that the lowest number is first and so on. Finally, you have two consecutive ^[4] references; are they meant to be different or is one redundant? 1358 ^(Talk) 18:43, February 10, 2014 (UTC)
  • Whoops, I'll check that over. -- Riffsyphon1024 10:17, February 24, 2014 (UTC)
    • Looks to be fixed now. -- Riffsyphon1024 07:43, February 27, 2014 (UTC)

Cav

• I don't think we need to list hair and feather color as "none" in the infobox if they don't apply.
• Infobox exclusive info - you list a large number of items in the diet field, but only list five of them in the main body. - Sir Cavalier of One^{(Squadron channel)} 09:23, February 27, 2014 (UTC)
  • Right, I wasn't sure if the list of prey would work in the body so I gave notable examples to not make it seem cluttered. However, they should all appear in the body? I can wipe out the unused infobox fields. -- Riffsyphon1024 06:59, February 28, 2014 (UTC)
    • Those fields have been cleared. Do I need to include every prey item in the body? -- Riffsyphon1024 09:17, March 4, 2014 (UTC)
      • Afraid so. If its in the infobox, the information must be included in the article to some degree. - Sir Cavalier of One^{(Squadron channel)} 18:51, March 4, 2014 (UTC)
        • This has been performed. -- Riffsyphon1024 07:35, March 10, 2014 (UTC)

Cadeth

• The italicization of faynaa and its etymology are intro-exclusive.
  • Addressed. -- Riffsyphon1024 10:04, March 22, 2014 (UTC)
    • I'm not seeing a change.
      • Oh pardon, I misunderstood your statement. I mean to spell out this etymology in History. -- Riffsyphon1024 08:04, March 27, 2014 (UTC)
• Please watch out for the ’ apostrophe; it can be carried over from Word or elsewhere, and breaks formatting.
  • Where is this offending apostrophe? Has it been removed already? -- Riffsyphon1024 02:05, March 28, 2014 (UTC)
• "Water column"?
  • Water column is a legitimate term to represent the body of water in which a creature is swimming through. -- Riffsyphon1024 09:47, March 22, 2014 (UTC)
• The first sentence of the history's rather confusing. Can you connect the stuff about the Jedi to the rest of it better? Maybe something like "___ encountered a swarm as they swam"
  • I edited this to read better. -- Riffsyphon1024 02:09, March 28, 2014 (UTC)
• "Shortly after the Invasion of Naboo, during Gungan colonization efforts, Faa were transported to Naboo's moon Ohma-D'un." Why is Faa capitalized here, and you should move the Gungan colonization stuff to the end - i.e. "... as part of Gungan colonization efforts on the moon."
  • Faa shouldn't be, so thanks for catching that. In regards to the moving of Ohma-D'un material, I believe that happens before 20 BBY and so is why it sits in the middle of that paragraph. -- Riffsyphon1024 09:47, March 22, 2014 (UTC)
    • I meant to the end of the sentence. "Shortly after the Invasion of Naboo, faa were transported to Naboo's moon Ohma-D'un as part of Gungan colonization efforts on the moon."
      • Oh okay, I think it is okay now. -- Riffsyphon1024 02:09, March 28, 2014 (UTC)
• You refer to mee as daggert in the section about prey, but then link to them again as mee in the history. Please resolve this.
  • Should be mee for majority of nomenclature, but daggerts is widely used as well. See that GAN for similar notes as well. -- Riffsyphon1024 09:47, March 22, 2014 (UTC)
• Please break up the long sentence in the BTS.
  • Broken up. -- Riffsyphon1024 10:04, March 22, 2014 (UTC)
• There was a lot of double-linking. Please keep an eye out for this. Cade Calrayn 00:41, March 17, 2014 (UTC)
• I believe that the reproduction part belongs in the Biology section.
  • Shifted. -- Riffsyphon1024 08:04, March 27, 2014 (UTC)
• "were likely attracted" - can you make this less speculative? Who thought it was likely? The Gungans?
  • "Likely" can be removed. The source of that is the Episode I Visual Guide. -- Riffsyphon1024 08:04, March 27, 2014 (UTC)
• Please make sure to keep track of your references; when moving sentences around, references can become redundant—i.e. "... responded to with loud noises.<ref name="Warriors" /> Another tactic Gungans employed was to remain motionless in the water column, in the chance that the school would pass them by.<ref name="Warriors" /> The first Warriors reference is unnecessary. Just a heads-up.
  • Wasn't sure if every thought needed citation. Thanks for fixing that. -- Riffsyphon1024 08:04, March 27, 2014 (UTC)
• Same as mee—you need a source for the 32 BBY and 20 BBY dates. Also, isn't there a name for the lake that they swam through?
  • Right. I may have to duplicate my efforts from mee. The lake is Lake Paonga. -- Riffsyphon1024 08:04, March 27, 2014 (UTC)
• Also like mee, please split the Titavian sentence.
  • Split up. Does it flow okay? -- Riffsyphon1024 08:04, March 27, 2014 (UTC)
• Can I ask how the ray, mee, and faa are all considered non-sentient, but there's no discussion of sentience in the doo article? Cade Calrayn 17:36, March 26, 2014 (UTC)
  • The doo article is an older GA and this was not brought up during those discussions. It's also the result of more material referencing the mee, ray, and faa. In every source I see though, the fish are fish. They do not talk. They do not show qualities of sentient beings. They are fish. I would argue that we could use the duck test here. -- Riffsyphon1024 08:04, March 27, 2014 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 19:26, April 4, 2014 (UTC)

• Are there no applicable quotes?—Tommy 9281 Friday, January 17, 2014, 06:26 UTC
  • None that I am aware of. I'm still hoping someone can provide context or insight from Dreadnaughts of Rendili or other obscure Episode I related materials. I've only been able to confirm with Wildlife and the Complete Encyclopedia. -- Riffsyphon1024 12:11, January 18, 2014 (UTC)

• Not really an objection, but it would be nice if you could find a synonym for "considerably". "Considered considerably" sounds a bit off. Stake black ^msg 18:54, February 10, 2014 (UTC)
  • Err, not sure how that came to be. -- Riffsyphon1024 10:17, February 24, 2014 (UTC)
    • I removed "considerably", as they can be considered dangerous. -- Riffsyphon1024 07:43, February 27, 2014 (UTC)