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Arthon

  • Nominated by: Zed42 (talk) 21:10, April 20, 2019 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: CAnom that went over 250 words, most of which are in the BTS.

(3 ACs/2 Users/5 Total)

Support

  1. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 09:11, April 25, 2019 (UTC)
  2. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 17:19, May 12, 2019 (UTC)
  3. ACvote Imperators II(Talk) 06:47, May 25, 2019 (UTC)
  4. ACvote Ayrehead02 (talk) 12:03, May 25, 2019 (UTC)
  5. ACvote Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:52, May 25, 2019 (UTC)

Object

Anil
  • As part of one of my objections from the previous nomination, I think I'd like to see a little more information about the Arthon's appearance in the LEGO game, like who exactly the First Order forces fought against on the planet, and perhaps mentioning the Ottegan Leader. I also believe you should expand the planet's depiction in the game, especially considering that those Ottegan settlements have a unique look, being located at the top of giant plants over the clouds. And I think you can see that those "green and blue" sections on the planet are actually landmasses and oceans in the "galactic map" menu. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 05:43, April 23, 2019 (UTC)
    • Expanded some more and created a page for the Ottegan Leader. Is that good? Zed42 (talk) 00:14, April 24, 2019 (UTC)
  • Can Kylo Ren being a warlord be sourced to the game? TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 01:23, April 25, 2019 (UTC)
    • As far as I know, it doesn't specifically refer to him as such. Wasn't sure what else to call him. Should I add a separate ref for that or just use something different? Zed42 (talk) 07:05, April 25, 2019 (UTC)
      • Well, it's really up to you. I would personally recommend something simple that can be sourced to the game to avoid an additional reference, but if you want to go with "warlord" instead, you can use Kylo Ren's Databank entry, for example. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 07:27, April 25, 2019 (UTC)
        • Changed it. Zed42 (talk) 08:13, April 25, 2019 (UTC)
QGJ
  • Can you provide some kind of timeframe for this visit? Even if its just at some point during Lor San Tekka's lifetime, it would still narrow it down. Right now, this sentence doesn't have any timeline placement and can take place at any point of galactic history. The galactic explorer Lor San Tekka visited the Ottegans on Arthon for some time, but later disappeared into hiding QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 12:58, April 30, 2019 (UTC)
    • Would using something like "a short time before 34 ABY" be suitable, even if it means having "34 ABY" twice in the same paragraph? There is a tweet that dates the earlier comic issues (which are set before Tekka's visit) to the previous year, but I don't think it can be used as canon. Zed42 (talk) 11:17, May 3, 2019 (UTC)
      • I suggest something along the lines of: Around the year 34 ABY, the galactic explorer Lor San Tekka visited the Ottegans on Arthon for some time, but later disappeared into hiding. Later the same year, a record of San Tekka's visit on Arthon was among information provided to the Resistance pilot Poe Dameron by the Hutt crime lord Grakkus. Obviously both "Around the year 34 ABY" and "Later the same year" would require ref notes to explain the dating. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 12:06, May 9, 2019 (UTC)
Imp
  • The LEGO TFA section of the BTS should be rewritten into present tense. (See here for precedent in a recent Featured article.) Imperators II(Talk) 13:57, May 7, 2019 (UTC)
    • Did I do it right? Zed42 (talk) 04:50, May 8, 2019 (UTC)
  • If I'm reading it correctly, the LEGO TFA section says the planet's atmosphere was "home to" the enclave, which kind of reads weird to me given you later say the enclave was located atop a plant structure. Is there any way to clear this up? Imperators II(Talk) 14:34, May 9, 2019 (UTC)
    • Reworded it. Zed42 (talk) 10:40, May 10, 2019 (UTC)
  • I believe the IU portion of the article's body now has enough info to section it with the addition of an intro. Imperators II(Talk) 10:19, May 11, 2019 (UTC)
    • Should I just add a History section, or include all astronomical object article sections, like Description and Inhabitants, even if they'd be a sentence at most? Zed42 (talk) 11:39, May 11, 2019 (UTC)
      • In this case, I probably wouldn't be against all three sections. Imperators II(Talk) 11:47, May 11, 2019 (UTC)
        • How's that look? I can't search for quotes for the History section right now and I'm fairly sure there won't be any for the other two. Zed42 (talk) 12:22, May 11, 2019 (UTC)
  • Date ref: "As Lor San Tekka's visit to Arthon is stated to have been before the mission" — stated by which source? Imperators II(Talk) 15:04, May 23, 2019 (UTC)
    • Clarified. Zed42 (talk) 19:03, May 23, 2019 (UTC)
Ayrehead
  • Can you mention Hosra somewhere in the body so it can be linked. Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:55, May 10, 2019 (UTC)
    • Done. If mentioning Hosra is a planet is necessary, I can add that too. Zed42 (talk) 11:17, May 10, 2019 (UTC)
      • Please do, context is always necessary. Ayrehead02 (talk) 18:54, May 15, 2019 (UTC)
        • Done, had to use an additional source. Zed42 (talk) 19:19, May 15, 2019 (UTC)
  • Not to question Imperators objection, but is there any evidence that Tekka visited the planet shortly before the information was given to Poe? Does any source give a timeframe for how long Tekka was traveling? If not then he might have traveled there years before Poe got his hands on the information so all we know is that he traveled there sometime during or prior to 34 ABY. Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:55, May 10, 2019 (UTC)
    • The Poe Dameron comic says Tekka went to Arthon after meeting Grakkus, which in turn was after visiting another planet. A character on this planet in the first or second issue of the comic mentions Tekka left "long ago" but "long" could mean anything from months to years. Additionally, Issue #4 states that Tekka visited Grakkus "recently" which sort of conflicts with "long ago". Zed42 (talk) 11:17, May 10, 2019 (UTC)
Toprawa

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 19:52, May 25, 2019 (UTC)


  • Is there an article on Arthon in a Star Wars Lego wiki or something that could be put in the External links section? Imperators II(Talk) 13:51, May 7, 2019 (UTC)
    • I checked, and as far as I can tell, no, there isn't. Zed42 (talk) 04:50, May 8, 2019 (UTC)