Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/Anakin Vs. Obi-Wan

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The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a good article nomination that was unsuccessful. Please do not modify it.

Anakin Vs. Obi-Wan

  • Nominated by:Master Fredcerique
  • Nomination comments:

(0 ACs/0 Users/0 Total)

Support

Object

  1. From the Moffship of Grand Moff Tranner:
    • There should be no refs in the intro.
      • Refs deleted. Master Fredcerique Robert M. Pierce 22:08, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
    • The infobox needs to be referenced.
      • Infobox referenced. Master Fredcerique Robert M. Pierce 22:08, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
    • Many statements need references in the body of the article.
    • Refs should not be links to other articles that are not sources.
      • "Other article" refs deleted. Master Fredcerique Robert M. Pierce 22:08, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
    • Refs go after punctuation, not before.
      • Refs rearranged. Master Fredcerique Robert M. Pierce 22:08, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
    • No need for subsections in the BTS.
      • Subsections combined. Master Fredcerique Robert M. Pierce 22:08, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
    • ROTS and the soundtrack should be either listed as appearances or sources, not both.
      • Appearnce section deleted. Master Fredcerique Robert M. Pierce 22:08, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
    • Remove all irrelevant Wikipedia links from External Links.
      • Irrelevant ex-links deleted. Master Fredcerique Robert M. Pierce 22:08, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
    • Frankly, I don't think this is currently worthy of GA status. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research (Comlink) 20:39, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
    • Now you've simply gone from bad to worse with the referencing. "Source" tags do not count as refs, and the summary and majority of the BTS are still unsourced. And there are still Wikipedia links in the External Links that should be removed. So, in response to your message on my talk page, this still isn't GA worthy. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research (Comlink) 15:15, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
  2. Cylka's first look:
    • The infobox needs to be sourced correctly. I have done the first reference for you. Please note the {{Ref| and }} that bracket the references. This is only to be used in the infobox.
    • The introduction is supposed to be a summary of the article. As it stands, you have unique information in the introduction. Please reiterate any relevant information in the article proper.
    • Please do not double space after a period, as it just creates html untidiness. I have gone through and corrected this, but I may have missed something, so please double check.
    • Anakin is not Darth Vader yet at this point, so to avoid confusion, don't refer to him as Vader.
    • You should probably either explain the term "soli" or use another word in its place. Not everyone will understand what it means.
    • It goes through a few different versions before going into a variation of May the Force Be With You - Which song is going through the different versions?
    • More context is needed for Battle of the Heroes, The Imperial March, andMay the Force Be With You when they are first introduced. Also, the way it is explained right now, it appears as if "Anakin Vs. Obi-Wan" is simply a composition these three other themes. Is that correct?
    • John Williams wrote Battle of the Heroes. This song is in many ways similar to the track Anakin Vs. Obi-Wan. - This goes along with the previous objection. This needs to be clarified a bit more. Furthermore, if you don't have a reference for this, it is OR/speculation. You just can't simply cite the movie, because you are using only your own observation then.
    • For every new Star Wars movie, George Lucas wanted a new major theme. For Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith, Lucas wanted John Williams to write a song that depicted a tragic duel between two former friends. - Same thing here, do you have a reference for this? Simply referencing the soundtrack isn't sufficient. If this information is coming from the liner notes, then this is what needs to be specified.
    • I believe it would be a good idea to give the times for the length of each of the different versions in the summary section.
    • It is also one of the fastest songs on the CD - Do you mean tempo? If so, please clarify.
    • I think it would be a good idea to do a little research to discover exactly which instruments were used during this track, specifically with the low brass and percussion. As it is, you only specify trumpets. But please remember, that you need a verifiable source for the instruments.
    • Please take care of these objections, and then I'll look over the article again. Cylka-talk- 06:55, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Comments

  • I, Fredcerique, am the author of this article. I believe I have finally made it worthy of GA status. Master Fredcerique Robert M. Pierce 18:02, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
  • You may like to look in on this CT. --Eyrezer 22:50, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Fredcerique, please do not strike other user's objections. It is up to them to determine whether the objection has been satisfied and strike themselves. This is made clear at the top of the page. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 23:39, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

AC Removal Vote (AC vote only)

  1. ACvote This nomination doesn't appear to be moving forward. It has been three weeks, and basically nothing has been done to address the objections. Furthermore, in that time, the nominator has been absent from the site for the most part. Cylka-talk- 10:20, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
  2. ACvote Grunny (Talk) 10:24, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
  3. ACvote Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research (Comlink) 11:13, 26 March 2009 (UTC)