Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/Aerin Dlarit (second nomination)

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Aerin Dlarit

• Nominated by: ToRsO bOy (talk) 10:50, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
• Nomination comments:
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Support

1. JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 15:04, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
2. UberSoldat93 (talk) 18:24, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
3. MasterFred(talk) 22:17, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
4. OOM 224 08:36, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
5. LucaRoR ^(Talk) 11:10, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

Object

UberSoldat

• Please introduce this into the BTS.
  • Added.ToRsO bOy (talk) 17:11, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
    • What I mean is, name the series that the novel is a part of and which installment it is. Here's an example. UberSoldat93 (talk) 17:18, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
      • My mistake. Added. ToRsO bOy (talk) 17:53, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
• The date is still not sourced properly. In response to your question on the probation page, this exact date is not given by the novel, so it needs to be referenced with something that actually provides it.
  • Added source. ToRsO bOy (talk) 17:11, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
• You also should have investigated the abridged audiobook before adding it to Appearances. Please do that now. UberSoldat93 (talk) 10:59, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
  • I raised this question before on Discord but didn't get a reply: do we have a go-to person here for audiobooks? I searched online and couldn't find a copy for both audiobooks. ToRsO bOy (talk) 17:11, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
    • Here's one for the abridged version. UberSoldat93 (talk) 17:18, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
      • Thanks for the link. Added a mention only. ToRsO bOy (talk) 17:53, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
        • Please take note of the formatting. UberSoldat93 (talk) 17:55, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
• It would be prudent to check these sources for a mention of the subject.
  • Added the only source he appeared in. Would you happen to know who I can ask, or where I can get the info for The Official Star Wars Fact File 14? It's the only one I'm having trouble finding online. ToRsO bOy (talk) 13:30, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
    • Try asking around in Discord. UberSoldat93 (talk) 13:55, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
      • Confirmed no mention. ToRsO bOy (talk) 03:02, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
• Per this probation page:

• Dlarit family can receive an article of its own and documented here.
  • Added. ToRsO bOy (talk) 03:31, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
    • Is that the actual name or a conjectural one? UberSoldat93 (talk) 06:23, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
      • I think it's the actual name since the exact term the Dlarit family was used in the Bacta War. ToRsO bOy (talk) 13:30, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
• Essential Guide to Warfare should be checked. UberSoldat93 (talk) 18:01, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Checked and no mention of Aerin. ToRsO bOy (talk) 03:31, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

• Date note mentions Krytos Trap, but there is no reference to the book anywhere in the article, and the subject appears in Bacta War instead. Also, the date note should mention the subject, per precedent. UberSoldat93 (talk) 18:29, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
  • The event when Isard took over Thyferra occurred in Krytos Trap. It was mentioned again in the Bacta War but the date wasn't given, so I used Krytos Trap to cover the period via its date on TNEC. For the other point, I've added Dlarit in the mention. ToRsO bOy (talk) 05:49, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
    • So then you should establish in the body when Bacta War takes place, and update the date note to include it, since currently there is no indication as to when those events take place after Krytos Trap. UberSoldat93 (talk) 06:53, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
      • Done ToRsO bOy (talk) 12:16, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
• Second Biography section can use an image (e.g. Elscol Loro). UberSoldat93 (talk) 18:43, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Image added. ToRsO bOy (talk) 05:49, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
• Is it possible to get a higher quality version of that Erisi Dlarit illustration?
  • Handled by Cade Calrayn. UberSoldat93 (talk) 18:32, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
    • Thanks Cade! ToRsO bOy (talk) 16:40, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
• After reading through the article again, I really think the second Biography section needs a rewrite so that it's told from Dlarit's perspective. Right now, much of it only documents the character's history from the perspectives of others. UberSoldat93 (talk) 09:03, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
  • I'm not sure how that could be done since Aerin never gets a POV chapter or section in the novel. Everything that happened or is attributed to him is from the perspective of others. The first time we actually see him is when he's already been stunned in his chair. ToRsO bOy (talk) 14:40, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
    • The article should always be written from the subject's perspective. Here's an FA on a non-POV character. UberSoldat93 (talk) 14:44, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
      • Thanks for the sample. I rewrote the part, let me know if I'm in the right direction? ToRsO bOy (talk) 16:40, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
        • Much better. UberSoldat93 (talk) 16:53, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
• Looking at Erisi Dlarit's article, do you think this information seems significant enough to be documented here in some capacity? "To make matters worse for Dlarit, her Imperial colleagues made no effort to hide the news from her, nor conceal their contempt about the Corps personnel from her. This fueled Dlarit's desire to seek retribution against her enemies." UberSoldat93 (talk) 08:43, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
  • I added the word "open" besides contempt. For the rest, I double checked the novel and there's no mention of the Imperials not hiding the news from Erisi, or her using it as fuel to seek retribution. ToRsO bOy (talk) 18:20, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

Macaroni

• Dlarit family can be added as an affiliation in the infobox.
  • Added. ToRsO bOy (talk) 07:36, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
• Why the need for CSWE citations in the infobox but not body?
  • Added CSWE ref in the body. ToRsO bOy (talk) 07:36, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
    • Is it really necessary for Dlarit family in the infobox?
      • I don't understand. Do you want me to use a different reference for the Dlarit family? ToRsO bOy (talk) 07:16, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
        • I'm just unsure as to why it is necessary to cite CSWE in the infobox to source the Dlarit family affiliation. If the novel doesn't say that, it should be kept, but right now it's unclear if it's needed. JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 23:05, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
          • Change ref to Bacta War instead.ToRsO bOy (talk) 01:58, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
• File:Elscol.jpg should be replaced with a digital version. If you need help with that, Dentface should be able to help. JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 00:05, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
  • The file has been updated. :) Dentface (talk) 22:48, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
    • Thanks! :) ToRsO bOy (talk) 07:36, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
• Would you say that this Ashern strike team needs an article of its own?
  • Created and linked. ToRsO bOy (talk) 07:16, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
• You're linking to the canon version of Standard year/Legends. JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 03:49, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Replaced ToRsO bOy (talk) 07:16, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Fred strikes back

• In the Bts, it could currently be read as if the entire series was published in 1997. It should be clearer that it was this novel specifically. MasterFred(talk) 23:08, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Reworded ToRsO bOy (talk) 01:58, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

OOM

• "and his troopers" — whose troopers? The text doesn't make it clear.
  • Done. ToRsO bOy (talk) 08:28, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
• "surrounded by […] well-wishers and admirers" — recurs in both the Biography and the P&T. You could diversify the language here. OOM 224 08:16, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
  • P&T reworded. ToRsO bOy (talk) 08:28, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 14:49, 3 October 2021 (UTC)