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Independence/Legends
- Requested By: UberSoldat93
- Date Requested: 09:24, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- Date Archived: 03:28, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
Object
- Note in-universe mention in Star Wars: Imperial Handbook: A Commander's Guide.
- Clean up unnecessary double- and triple-referencing.
- Image thumbnails are too small.
- Noticing some underlinking.
- Some subjects introduced with no context.
- Room for more sectioning and images.
- Battle of Turkana date note need to be updated with the new reasoning given here. UberSoldat93
(talk) 09:33, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- "Little is known of the Independence's actions during the early years of the New Republic as the New Republic Defense Fleet looked to modernize its forces." Hoping this is supported by the source.
- There is at least one duplicate reference (under Expanding the Alliance).
- A wider discussion needs to be had on whether or not [[The Farlander Papers (Expanded)]] should exist as a separate page (as well as at that title). For the longest time, we only cited the strategy guide itself. If its existence is justified, the referencing in this article (and others) needs to be overhauled. If you ask me personally, I think it should not exist since it's integrated into the guide itself.
- Some image captions could be made more relevant to the sections they're currently under.
- Razor's Edge date needs a note.
- Since the entirety of TIE Fighter takes place in 3 ABY per other sources, I'm not sure we can definitely say X-Wing Alliance takes place around the same time as TIE Fighter as the "After Hoth" section states.
- Would like to see dates for the Yuuzhan Vong War. UberSoldat93 (talk) 09:03, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Afraid I hadn't a clue about the debate on The Farlander Papers, but if the expanded edition is distinct from the original novella and is a self-contained part of the strategy guide(s) then it might indeed be worth a separate article of its own and be listed separately in Appearances. If it's integrated throughout the guides (like databank entries for various items that you come across in The Force Unleashed or Jedi: Fallen Order) then maybe not. However, if the goal is to be specific when citing information from the guides, then maybe "X-Wing: The Official Strategy Guide (The Farlander Papers)" would be a solution for the references—provided that the original novella's article also explain the expanded versions included in the guides. OOM 224 (he/him) 12:09, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- The strategy guide basically retells the story from The Farlander Papers, but it's not an expanded reprint. There are bits of the story that are excluded from the strategy guide, and the rest is completely rewritten from third-person to first-person. The strategy guide alternates between story sections and walkthrough sections (which are presented as first-person mission reports so also IU), and does continue the story beyond where TFP stops. I'd be inclined to say that the story doesn't warrant it's own article, for the same reasons as UberSoldat93. And "The Farlander Papers" (Expanded) isn't a great name for it even if it does. Green Tentacle (Talk) 12:26, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
- The reason I made those separate articles is so elements exclusive to the story portions of that guide book could be listed under Appearances, since to list them under Sources doesn't really fit with the fact that a huge portion of the guide books basically make up a novel. And the descriptions of the guide books do refer to those portions as "More of The Farlander Papers," etc. While I guess you could just lump it all under one article as "The Farlander Papers" I thought there would be no way to differentiate between the original story and the guide book's longer one. Separating that allows someone doing research to know what book it was included in. -JMM (talk) 19:33, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
- The strategy guide basically retells the story from The Farlander Papers, but it's not an expanded reprint. There are bits of the story that are excluded from the strategy guide, and the rest is completely rewritten from third-person to first-person. The strategy guide alternates between story sections and walkthrough sections (which are presented as first-person mission reports so also IU), and does continue the story beyond where TFP stops. I'd be inclined to say that the story doesn't warrant it's own article, for the same reasons as UberSoldat93. And "The Farlander Papers" (Expanded) isn't a great name for it even if it does. Green Tentacle (Talk) 12:26, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
- Afraid I hadn't a clue about the debate on The Farlander Papers, but if the expanded edition is distinct from the original novella and is a self-contained part of the strategy guide(s) then it might indeed be worth a separate article of its own and be listed separately in Appearances. If it's integrated throughout the guides (like databank entries for various items that you come across in The Force Unleashed or Jedi: Fallen Order) then maybe not. However, if the goal is to be specific when citing information from the guides, then maybe "X-Wing: The Official Strategy Guide (The Farlander Papers)" would be a solution for the references—provided that the original novella's article also explain the expanded versions included in the guides. OOM 224 (he/him) 12:09, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
I'm unsure if this is solved due to the above tweaks, but this is still technically image tagged.Might be worth a quick context checking breeze read, noticing a few like Maarek Stele and Olin Garn seeming like they could use some.—spookywillowwtalk 00:43, 5 March 2024 (UTC)Also seems to be sitting in Category:Series, story arcs or collections listed in Legends Appearances.—spookywillowwtalk 04:27, 5 March 2024 (UTC)- Continued my copy-editing sweep through the rest of the article. The maintenance category is due to {{SWArchive}}, but I'm not sure what to do to fix it/if it needs to be fixed since it seems to be in order, based on the template info. OOM 224 (he/him) 00:53, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, if no new info then just another one of those check-and-removes. Went and did that.—spookywillowwtalk 02:02, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
- Continued my copy-editing sweep through the rest of the article. The maintenance category is due to {{SWArchive}}, but I'm not sure what to do to fix it/if it needs to be fixed since it seems to be in order, based on the template info. OOM 224 (he/him) 00:53, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- The article has several sections that have 5+ paragraphs, these need to be subsectioned. ThrawnChiss7
Assembly Cupola 02:11, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
Comments
Vote to retain Featured status
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