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Leaf Queen
(6 Inqs/5 Users/11 Total)
Support
- Cull Tremayne 00:51, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
And here I thought I was done reading these. Hobbes(Tiger's Lair) 03:36, 14 February 2008 (UTC)- She's an interesting character. And I removed the image with DivX watermark and uploaded a new version of the frame. -- Delmar Nori 17:04, 14 February 2008 (EST)
- Chack Jadson (Talk) 23:50, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
- Adamwankenobi 02:14, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Greyman(Paratus) 16:18, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Green Tentacle (Talk) 19:09, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Though the single redlink in the intro should be fixed. --Imperialles 19:34, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
MORE SILLY FAs! -- Darth Culator (Talk) 04:50, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Jaina Solo(Talk) 19:00, 23 February 2008 (UTC)- Dumb IU concept, well-written article. Toprawa and Ralltiir 16:54, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Oppose
File:LeafQueen3.jpg: DivX watermark? Come on.--Imperialles 19:28, 14 February 2008 (UTC)- Watermark removed. Cull Tremayne 05:59, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Toprawa:
Remove the periods from the quote attribution lines.- Done. Cull Tremayne 08:34, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Destroy that red link in the intro so it doesn't muck up the Main Page later- Gone finally. Cull Tremayne 16:44, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm confused by what you're saying here. Should it not be her advice?: "and they took his advice on occasion."- No, Logray is a male. I think the sentence reads fine, but if you think it needs rewording, just tell me. Cull Tremayne 08:34, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Ok, I understand now. Toprawa and Ralltiir 18:10, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- No, Logray is a male. I think the sentence reads fine, but if you think it needs rewording, just tell me. Cull Tremayne 08:34, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Hmm, how unfortunate... 9.9 POV: "Unfortunately, the young Princess was a poor gardener"This is POV? Her plants consistently died, she was unable to prevent them from doing so. Is a change to "was not the best gardener satisfactory?D'oh! Removed. Cull Tremayne 08:34, 15 February 2008 (UTC)- "Unfortunately" implies pity. I think you see that, though. ;) Toprawa and Ralltiir 18:10, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Lots of telling going on. Rephrase something here: "Telling Kneesaa that she would return in three days, the Leaf Queen told her"- Slightly rephrased. Tell me if it still reads awkwardly. Cull Tremayne 08:34, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- I made a slight change to the last clause. Toprawa and Ralltiir 18:10, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Slightly rephrased. Tell me if it still reads awkwardly. Cull Tremayne 08:34, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Please come up with a better verb here: "The plant responded by blossoming a beautiful brush from one of its blossoms"- Heh. Can't believe I didn't catch that. Fixed. Cull Tremayne 08:34, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Original objection fixed, but after reading this again, "beautiful" is rather POVish.Toprawa and Ralltiir 18:10, 15 February 2008 (UTC)- Changed to colorful. Cull Tremayne 05:59, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Heh. Can't believe I didn't catch that. Fixed. Cull Tremayne 08:34, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Remove the unfortunate POV: "Unfortunately, Kneesaa's friends"- Removed. Cull Tremayne 08:34, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
This gives the bag an element of unnecessary personification. Please rephrase: "she destroyed a bag of leaves that had been standing close by"- Rephrased. Cull Tremayne 08:34, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Unfortunately, this is POV: "Unfortunately, by the time the Leaf Queen had returned"- Removed. Cull Tremayne 08:34, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Please rephrase so both clauses don't end in "one day": "the Leaf Queen told the princess that she would make a fine protector of the Soul Trees one day, confirming that the whole ordeal had likely been a test to see whether Kneesaa was fit to rule one day"- Good catch. Removed. Cull Tremayne 08:34, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Were they dating? Please rephrase: "entered into a relationship with a Frost Sprite known as Odra."- Clarified. Cull Tremayne 08:34, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Hah, they /were/ dating? I meant that teasingly. Toprawa and Ralltiir 18:10, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Clarified. Cull Tremayne 08:34, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Elaborate on what these "personal abilities" are: "personal abilities"- Elaborated. Cull Tremayne 08:34, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Unless this is a clearly substantiated possibility presented in the show, remove this speculation: "Using unknown methods but perhaps through the Force"- Removed. Cull Tremayne 08:34, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
POV: "Unfortunately, the message"- Gone. Cull Tremayne 08:34, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
"Boarding" the leaf seems inappropriate, since it's not really a vehicle: "The four Ewoks boarded the flying leaf"- Don't you board a sled? That's basically what this thing is. I'll change it to "jumped onto". Cull Tremayne 08:34, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Do you? I dunno. Toprawa and Ralltiir 18:10, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Don't you board a sled? That's basically what this thing is. I'll change it to "jumped onto". Cull Tremayne 08:34, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Unless there is something explicit in the show that suggests this was the ultimate fate of these...creatures...avoid speculation: "After thanking the Ewok children, the Leaf Queen and her siblings likely returned to their normal routine of passing the Season Scepter among each other as the seasons changed."- Well, the seasons kept changing? There wasn't anymore perpetual winter? I guess I see what you're saying, but this isn't an extrapolation beyond what's obvious IMO. I'd even go so far as to say it's heavily implied that "things went back to normal" ie, the passing of the scepter. Cull Tremayne 08:34, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Safe enough to assume this, but reword it so there is no speculation. Ex: The Leaf Queen and her siblings returned to the continuation of their duties, etc.Toprawa and Ralltiir 18:10, 15 February 2008 (UTC)- Changed. Cull Tremayne 05:59, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Well, the seasons kept changing? There wasn't anymore perpetual winter? I guess I see what you're saying, but this isn't an extrapolation beyond what's obvious IMO. I'd even go so far as to say it's heavily implied that "things went back to normal" ie, the passing of the scepter. Cull Tremayne 08:34, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Same speculation deal: "It is unknown how integral this device was to performing these magical acts, but it is apparent that the Leaf Queen had an inherent ability most likely related to Force-sensitivity."- Removed. Cull Tremayne 08:34, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
There are? Whose arguments? Smells like pure speculation: "There are a number of ways in which a being like the Leaf Queen could have come into existence. It is not known if the Leaf Queen was a manifestation of the Force, a being deformed by the Force, or a fraud, but there are a number of arguments for each possibility."- Take it up with the Sun King and the Snow King. :-P Removed. Cull Tremayne 08:34, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Along with this Force speculation. If it is indeed speculation unsubstantiated by the show, you'll need to remove the entire "Force manifestation" section.- Twas just copied verbatim from two previously mentioned articles. Removed. Cull Tremayne 08:34, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
As well as the "Deformed sentient" section.Toprawa and Ralltiir 07:03, 15 February 2008 (UTC)- Ditto. Removed. Cull Tremayne 08:34, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm willing to bet that with some digging around, you can find out who voiced the Leaf Queen and add this info to the BTS.Toprawa and Ralltiir 02:42, 15 February 2008 (EST)- Fo-sheezy. Cull Tremayne 08:34, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- After some hunting, other sites give the same information as in the episode. There were people who did additional voices. One of them could've done the Leaf Queen. Unfortunately, the people who did the additional voices are the same for every episode. Heck, it could've been one of the main voice cast people. There's just no way of knowing for sure without contacting the people, and this is such an old show that that will prove difficult if not impossible. Cull Tremayne 03:51, 15 February 2008 (EST)
- Phooey. Toprawa and Ralltiir 18:10, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- After some hunting, other sites give the same information as in the episode. There were people who did additional voices. One of them could've done the Leaf Queen. Unfortunately, the people who did the additional voices are the same for every episode. Heck, it could've been one of the main voice cast people. There's just no way of knowing for sure without contacting the people, and this is such an old show that that will prove difficult if not impossible. Cull Tremayne 03:51, 15 February 2008 (EST)
- Fo-sheezy. Cull Tremayne 08:34, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- From the Chron-o-John of Green Tentacle:
Era icons don't match the infobox. And shouldn't it just be the Rebellion era?- Gross oversight. Changed to Rebellion era, icons changed to match. Cull Tremayne 02:42, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
- Not an official objection since it's not a rule, but I'd like to see the redlink in the intro die. Green Tentacle (Talk) 19:23, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- Gone now. Cull Tremayne 16:44, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Comments
Approved by Inquisitorius 16:59, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
- Not Marvel, but just as silly. Cull Tremayne 00:51, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
- The article have five support votes. If there's no more objections, it can be featured. -- Delmar Nori 14:05, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Please read the requirements at the top of the page. Greyman(Paratus) 14:09, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Sure. We must wait at least a week without objections. Now there's objections about the voices of episodes The Wish Plant and The Season Scepter. Other Wookieepedians could changed the article, but I can't aver the informations about the voices. We must wait other Wookieepedians' help, too. -- Delmar Nori 14:46, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- No, the part that says "Also, if, at least a week after the article's nomination, that article has 5 Inquisitor supports and no objections (or the objections have been stricken or overridden), it will be added to the queue, and will be officially known as a "featured article." That means that it needs a) no objections left standing, and b) 5 or more votes from Inquisitors. Right now, the article only has 2 Inq votes (Hobbes and myself), and it's only been two days since it was nominated -- not a week or more. Once it meets the criteria (which I'm sure it will eventually), then it will be an FA. Not before, though. Greyman(Paratus) 16:18, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- That's right. The article needs more three Inquisitors nominations to gain the FA status. Thanks for your explanation. -- Delmar Nori 21:41, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- No, the part that says "Also, if, at least a week after the article's nomination, that article has 5 Inquisitor supports and no objections (or the objections have been stricken or overridden), it will be added to the queue, and will be officially known as a "featured article." That means that it needs a) no objections left standing, and b) 5 or more votes from Inquisitors. Right now, the article only has 2 Inq votes (Hobbes and myself), and it's only been two days since it was nominated -- not a week or more. Once it meets the criteria (which I'm sure it will eventually), then it will be an FA. Not before, though. Greyman(Paratus) 16:18, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Sure. We must wait at least a week without objections. Now there's objections about the voices of episodes The Wish Plant and The Season Scepter. Other Wookieepedians could changed the article, but I can't aver the informations about the voices. We must wait other Wookieepedians' help, too. -- Delmar Nori 14:46, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Please read the requirements at the top of the page. Greyman(Paratus) 14:09, 16 February 2008 (UTC)