- The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a featured article nomination that was unsuccessful. Please do not modify it.
Lando Calrissian
- Nominated by: Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 20:35, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: <cue suspenseful music> From the two directors that brought you Tales of the Jedi and Wraith Squadron! From the project behind Jaina Solo! From the minds behind Mara Jade Skywalker, an action-packed adventure filled with suspense, betrayal, romance, and, of course, inimitable charm. Now playing: The smoothest FAN ever to grace this page, Lando Calrissian!
(2 Inqs/10 Users/12 Total)
Support
- As co-nominator. Greyman(Talk) 20:45, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Objections will be fixed soon as sources are checked by several users, including myself. Chack Jadson (Talk) 01:29, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
Imperialles 23:56, 24 January 2009 (UTC)- This article is supported by Mecenarylord on 23:12, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
- QuiGonJinnThere's always a bigger fish. 11:34, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- JangFett Talk 00:11, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- —The Flash Talk to me, talk to me, talk to me bay-bay! 01:59, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
- Whoa. Nice work. –Victor
(talk page) 03:36, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
- --Darth tom
(Imperial Intelligence) 16:37, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- He's too smooth!--Jedi Kasra (talk) 14:42, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the good read. Darth Trayus
(Trayus Academy) 22:57, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
- Much much better then it used to be. Keep up the good work!!--Loneshark1138 22:54 October 29, 2009 (UTC)
I dare object to Lando
- Thefourdotelipsis:
No info whatsoever from Lando Calrissian: Idiot's Array and Crisis on Cloud City. Notsmooth. Thefourdotelipsis 03:04, 23 November 2008 (UTC)- The latter has been addressed; I've asked Borsk about the former. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 21:26, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
- Former is also addressed now. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 20:12, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
- Former is also addressed now. Atarumaster88
- The latter has been addressed; I've asked Borsk about the former. Atarumaster88
- Lord Hydronium:
Ditto Galaxy Guide 2: Yavin and Bespin.- Lord Hydronium 03:10, 23 November 2008 (UTC)- I've went ahead and added a sentence or two of some background information for this objection. I looked over my copy of the source again and couldn't see anything new beyond the sentences I just added. Is there something specific you're thinking of that I could work in? Greyman(Talk) 13:51, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
There's some other bits on pages 50, 76, and 88.- Lord Hydronium 08:27, 3 December 2008 (UTC)- Information added. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 17:11, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
- Information added. Atarumaster88
- I've went ahead and added a sentence or two of some background information for this objection. I looked over my copy of the source again and couldn't see anything new beyond the sentences I just added. Is there something specific you're thinking of that I could work in? Greyman(Talk) 13:51, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
The mentions of Ymile are rather confusingly arranged. There's a picture of her near where Lando wins the bet with Raynor, but no reference to her in the text, then much later in the article it mentions she helped Lando win. That second part should be noted and clarified at the time it actually occurs; also, she should be linked there, since she isn't at the moment.- Lord Hydronium 00:39, 4 December 2008 (UTC)Succession box should include Treece; Action Tidings and the Cloud City Databank entry both say he was the Administrator of Cloud City.- Lord Hydronium 00:41, 4 December 2008 (UTC)- Fixed the Ymile bits and buffed Lady Luck overall. Also, adjusted succession box, reffed from the actual Marvel comics though. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 01:15, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
- Fixed the Ymile bits and buffed Lady Luck overall. Also, adjusted succession box, reffed from the actual Marvel comics though. Atarumaster88
Information missing on how Lando got back Cloud City, from The New Essential Guide to Characters. Geonosis and the Outer Rim Worlds not in; amongst the things to add is a bit in there about how Lando raised Tibanna profits that's also in the NEC.- Lord Hydronium 07:29, 4 December 2008 (UTC)- The Tibanna profits bit is already in there, just referenced from another source. The Cloud City re-taking has been added. Still working on GATOW. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 17:11, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
- Two tidbits from GATORW added. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 16:41, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
- Added it to the "Sources" list as well. - Lord Hydronium 23:23, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, I see; I was searching for "percent". - Lord Hydronium 19:52, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
- Two tidbits from GATORW added. Atarumaster88
- The Tibanna profits bit is already in there, just referenced from another source. The Cloud City re-taking has been added. Still working on GATOW. Atarumaster88
More NEGTC tidbits: Lando giving control of Cloud City to the Ugnaughts after Zorba cedes it. Lando refusing to go to Chewbacca's funeral out of guilt. From GG3: Lobot convinced Lando to help Leia and the group.- Lord Hydronium 07:45, 4 December 2008 (UTC)- All of the above fixed. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 17:11, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
- All of the above fixed. Atarumaster88
- More missing sources:
Rebellion Era Sourcebook, Star Wars Roleplaying Game Revised Core Rulebook,Star Wars Roleplaying Game Saga Edition Core Rulebook, Dark Empire Sourcebook,The Truce at Bakura Sourcebook, Han Solo and the Corporate Sector Sourcebook (I just spotted a small mention, but there could be more), Heir to the Empire Sourcebook,The Last Command Sourcebook, and Star Wars Trilogy Sourcebook, Special Edition. For now. - Lord Hydronium 23:23, 12 December 2008 (UTC)Rebellion Era Sourcebook is listed now, but it needs information from it. There's some on Page 111, for a start.- Lord Hydronium 07:01, 10 January 2009 (UTC)- The info on that page was already in the article. Could you tell me what specifically you are referring to? And the rest of the sourcebooks have been checked and added. Chack Jadson (Talk) 19:18, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
- I had a whole thing for here before, a giant list of every piece of information I could find from these sources that was missing. Then my text editor crashed, so here's a much more general list. The Cloud City section from the RESB has information on Lando's neutrality. The RCR talks about him getting his fortunes and smuggling arms to the Rebellion. DESB needs a ton of information from it. Read the whole thing. Lando's section, Wedge's section, an inset in the Coruscant section, and the Star Destroyer section have major information missing from the article—everything up to Lando crashing on Coruscant is missing. The sourcebooks for HTTE and Dark Force Rising have important information in their Lando sections, as well as the Nkllon section of the former and Lady Luck section of the latter. Dark Force Rising overall needs major expansion. It barely touches on their capture by Garm, the entire search for the fleet, and the battle for the Katana. The first paragraph if the SOTE section is extremely vague and needs expanding; nothing is said about how Rendar is guiding them or how he abandons them, or where the Imperial forces come from.
My recommendation would be to withdraw the nom for now. It's missing too much major information from too many major sources. Dark Empire Sourcebook alone is a huge chunk not included, and with all that's been found, I frankly don't trust that this article is near complete. My advice would be to remove it, to read or reread all the sources thoroughly, rework the article, and then renom it when it's in a more complete state. - Lord Hydronium 03:29, 10 March 2009 (UTC)- Major buffs to SOTE and DFR completed. Will go through the other TTT-related sourcebooks soon. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 17:54, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
- Major buffs to HTTE Sourcebook completed, minor buff to Rebellion Era Sourcebook. If you want more information from that source, I'll need a page number, because I just read through the entire thing and found a whopping one sentence of minor information. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 16:11, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- RESB's good. - Lord Hydronium 23:20, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- Buffed RCRGR, working on the DFR, TLC sourcebooks. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 16:13, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
- TLC sourcebook buffed. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 00:45, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
- TLC sourcebook buffed. Atarumaster88
- Buffed RCRGR, working on the DFR, TLC sourcebooks. Atarumaster88
- RESB's good. - Lord Hydronium 23:20, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- Major buffs to HTTE Sourcebook completed, minor buff to Rebellion Era Sourcebook. If you want more information from that source, I'll need a page number, because I just read through the entire thing and found a whopping one sentence of minor information. Atarumaster88
- Major buffs to SOTE and DFR completed. Will go through the other TTT-related sourcebooks soon. Atarumaster88
{{Mo}} for The Truce at Bakura, but it contains unique information to add.- Lord Hydronium 23:28, 12 December 2008 (UTC)- Fixed. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 19:44, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
- Fixed. Atarumaster88
- In addition to the above, the following appearances and mentions are missing: Out of the Closet: The Assassin's Tale, Darksaber, Force Heretic I: Remnant, Therefore I Am: The Tale of IG-88, Payback: The Tale of Dengar, The Last One Standing: The Tale of Boba Fett, X-Wing: Rogue Squadron, X-Wing: Wedge's Gamble, X-Wing: Wraith Squadron, Young Jedi Knights: Heirs of the Force, Young Jedi Knights: The Lost Ones, Young Jedi Knights: Lightsabers, Young Jedi Knights: Darkest Knight, Young Jedi Knights: Shards of Alderaan, Young Jedi Knights: Jedi Bounty, and Young Jedi Knights: The Emperor's Plague. - Lord Hydronium 01:17, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
- Chack and I have addressed these. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 19:44, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
- Force Heretic I has a bit about Lando from Jaina's childhood. Find text-searchable versions of these (ask on IRC if you need a source) and search through them for "Lando" or "Calrissian", please, because if the article's missing information from one, there's a chance it's missing from the others. - Lord Hydronium 03:29, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
- No, no. You see, I did find that information when I went through and used text-searchable versions of these the first time. I just decided that particular tidbit was too anecdotal for inclusion in an encyclopedia article. However, if you're set on seeing "Calrissian also taught Jaina Solo to enjoy altha protein drinks during her childhood" in the article, I will add it, despite how trivial it seems. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 16:17, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
- By itself that tidbit might be too anecdotal, but I think the fact that Lando had more interaction with Jaina in her youth than just going on a mission with her is worth something. - Lord Hydronium 19:08, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
- After our discussion in IRC, I did a little more YJK research and added a paragraph about their interactions in general. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 19:58, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
- After our discussion in IRC, I did a little more YJK research and added a paragraph about their interactions in general. Atarumaster88
- By itself that tidbit might be too anecdotal, but I think the fact that Lando had more interaction with Jaina in her youth than just going on a mission with her is worth something. - Lord Hydronium 19:08, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
- No, no. You see, I did find that information when I went through and used text-searchable versions of these the first time. I just decided that particular tidbit was too anecdotal for inclusion in an encyclopedia article. However, if you're set on seeing "Calrissian also taught Jaina Solo to enjoy altha protein drinks during her childhood" in the article, I will add it, despite how trivial it seems. Atarumaster88
- Force Heretic I has a bit about Lando from Jaina's childhood. Find text-searchable versions of these (ask on IRC if you need a source) and search through them for "Lando" or "Calrissian", please, because if the article's missing information from one, there's a chance it's missing from the others. - Lord Hydronium 03:29, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
- Chack and I have addressed these. Atarumaster88
- Almost forgot: None of the
movie novelizations orradio dramas are included. - Lord Hydronium 01:19, 13 December 2008 (UTC)- This particular objection has been addressed, along with adding a number of other ESB and ROTJ-related appearances. I've checked both novelizations and will check with Tope to make sure there's no new info in the radio dramas. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 18:19, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
- Han will have these objections down! We've gotta give them more time! (In all seriousness, we are working on these). Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 16:40, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
- This particular objection has been addressed, along with adding a number of other ESB and ROTJ-related appearances. I've checked both novelizations and will check with Tope to make sure there's no new info in the radio dramas. Atarumaster88
Sorry, haven't checked those yet, but another: Galaxywide NewsNets from Adventure Journal 14. "Calrissian Resurfaces as Baron Administrator".- Lord Hydronium 06:36, 10 January 2009 (UTC)- Mined. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 16:45, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
- Mined. Atarumaster88
- Wretched Hives of Scum and Villainy, page 13, bottom left. - Lord Hydronium 05:02, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
- Tweaked. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 16:13, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
- Tweaked. Atarumaster88
- Galaxywide NewsNets in Adventure Journal 5 has another article with Lando info, "Smugglers' Roster: Random Rumors". - Lord Hydronium 01:46, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
- Also fixed. Fascinating info. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 16:35, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- Also fixed. Fascinating info. Atarumaster88
Gah, redlinks in source list, mine Databank and Wizards. Those first two totally slipped me mind.Atarumaster88(Talk page) 03:19, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Infobox not fully/correctly sourced. Graestan(Talk) 04:24, 23 November 2008 (UTC)- I think I got the missing reference. If you desire other sourcing, please let me know. ;-) Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 20:22, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
- Got it on the second try. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 21:26, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
- Got it on the second try. Atarumaster88
- I think I got the missing reference. If you desire other sourcing, please let me know. ;-) Atarumaster88
I'd like to take Yrf's comment below and turn it into an actual objection; for instance, I know there are quotes to be had by or about Lando and/or what he was up to at the time for the LCA, TTT, and BFC. Ideally, since the sections are so long, each should probably have a quote. Graestan(Talk) 13:48, 23 November 2008 (UTC)File:Lando91.jpg, File:LanLukVil.jpg, File:Weaklando.jpg, [[:File:Lando&Luke Marvel71.jpg]] and File:Lando&Han captive.jpg could all do with a re-scan. Other than that, excellent work, and about time! :)--Imperialles 13:08, 24 December 2008 (UTC)- All done. I was bored and Ataru mentioned it at the right time. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 00:16, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
Image placement is irrelevant to the text in a number of locations.SinisterSamurai 07:32, 5 January 2009 (UTC)- I've moved a few things around. As it stands, there are two images that aren't directly pertinent to the sections they are in: the Caamas Document crisis section, and in the Kessel investment sections, where we used generic Lando images to fill gaps that would have left lots of text with no complimentary images. As it is, there's a good balance of images to compliment the text, but by removing those, the article's appearance would suffer accordingly. And there is article precedent for using generic images to fill "gaps". If there were more relevant images that could be substituted in, just point me in their direction and I'll gladly change it, but for now, it should stay as it is. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 17:03, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
- Looks good.
- I've moved a few things around. As it stands, there are two images that aren't directly pertinent to the sections they are in: the Caamas Document crisis section, and in the Kessel investment sections, where we used generic Lando images to fill gaps that would have left lots of text with no complimentary images. As it is, there's a good balance of images to compliment the text, but by removing those, the article's appearance would suffer accordingly. And there is article precedent for using generic images to fill "gaps". If there were more relevant images that could be substituted in, just point me in their direction and I'll gladly change it, but for now, it should stay as it is. Atarumaster88
Needs info from Star Wars: Power of the Jedi. Thefourdotelipsis 08:54, 5 January 2009 (UTC)- Added. Chack Jadson (Talk) 21:55, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
- Eyrezer:
The Young Calrissian comic is listed in the Non-canon section of the appearances, but is in the main body without any special tags. It should be consistent one way or the other. If, as it looks like, the story is mentioned in the CSWE, then I suggest it gets moved out of the non-canon section of the appearances. I also suggest that the reference to YC have a note added along the lines of: "This story was canonized by inclusion in the Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia." His ship from this story could also get a mention in the Ships section later on. --Eyrezer 11:00, 5 February 2009(UTC)- It doesn't seem to be mentioned in CSWE, according to Chack. I've added in non-canon tags in the main body, will get to the ships section soon. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 01:50, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- Correction. Our page seems to list the comic as canon, so I'll check and see if I can find where it was canonized. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 01:53, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- Purpilia added CSWE as a source on the Meek page, which is what I was going by. Probably not mentioned in Lando's article itself, though. --Eyrezer 09:24, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, I've fixed just about all the objection,
need to add the ships section, though.ships section added. Atarumaster88(Talk page) 16:28, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- Great. With the Meek story, doesn't the CSWE say it was reported by HNN sources? This should be added, in a way that reflects the potential ambiguity or unreliability of the account that seems to be suggested in the Encyclopedia entry. --Eyrezer 14:03, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- That's exactly what CSWE reports. I've updated the article to reflect that. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 18:36, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- That's exactly what CSWE reports. I've updated the article to reflect that. Atarumaster88
- Great. With the Meek story, doesn't the CSWE say it was reported by HNN sources? This should be added, in a way that reflects the potential ambiguity or unreliability of the account that seems to be suggested in the Encyclopedia entry. --Eyrezer 14:03, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, I've fixed just about all the objection,
- Purpilia added CSWE as a source on the Meek page, which is what I was going by. Probably not mentioned in Lando's article itself, though. --Eyrezer 09:24, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- Correction. Our page seems to list the comic as canon, so I'll check and see if I can find where it was canonized. Atarumaster88
- It doesn't seem to be mentioned in CSWE, according to Chack. I've added in non-canon tags in the main body, will get to the ships section soon. Atarumaster88
Osuno Whett is reintroduced too abruptly in the ThonBaka section. It needs to be explained how/why he was there.- Fixed. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 20:24, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
- Fixed. Atarumaster88
Did Bria change her mind? I thought it might have always been her plan to rip off the smugglers.- Rebel Dawn and our Tharen article are ambiguous at best. I've ambiguified it also in the Lando article correspondingly. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 21:12, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
- Rebel Dawn and our Tharen article are ambiguous at best. I've ambiguified it also in the Lando article correspondingly. Atarumaster88
"Shortly thereafter, Calrissian found himself on another treasure hunt sponsored by a trio of Hutts eagerly hunting the fabled Yavin Vassilika, a priceless, gemlike statuette, having been saved by Bib Fortuna after losing a game of sabacc." This makes it sound as though the Vassilika was saved by Fortuna.- Reworded. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 20:24, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
- Reworded. Atarumaster88
Are you certain about the placement of the Ruins of Dantooine stuff? It would make so much more sense if it didn't interrupt his trip to Bespin...- Well, the Galaxy of Fear stuff happened in 7 months ABY, and Lando doesn't win Cloud City until after 2 ABY, according to AJ 14, which is set circa 2 ABY according to my sources. That's why the Ruins of Dantooine stuff is there—it's before he wins Cloud City and after the Galaxy of Fear stuff, as Ruins of Dantooine is set 1.5 ABY. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 21:12, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
- A shame, but that seems right. --Eyrezer 23:48, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
- Well, the Galaxy of Fear stuff happened in 7 months ABY, and Lando doesn't win Cloud City until after 2 ABY, according to AJ 14, which is set circa 2 ABY according to my sources. That's why the Ruins of Dantooine stuff is there—it's before he wins Cloud City and after the Galaxy of Fear stuff, as Ruins of Dantooine is set 1.5 ABY. Atarumaster88
An appropriate mention of Tocneppil and Dash somewhere in the early sections should be added, based on that quote at the start of "Revenge attempts." Also a mention of Moabab would be good.- I'm not a big fan of saying "Calrissian met X" ten paragraphs before they actually have significant encounters with him, but I recognize that that opinion is not universally held. I've mentioned Tocneppil, Dash, and Mungo Baobab farther up, in a general sort of way since the timeline is unknown. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 00:09, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, I can understand that. I mainly requested it because Tocneppil was not otherwise mentioned in the bio.
- I'm not a big fan of saying "Calrissian met X" ten paragraphs before they actually have significant encounters with him, but I recognize that that opinion is not universally held. I've mentioned Tocneppil, Dash, and Mungo Baobab farther up, in a general sort of way since the timeline is unknown. Atarumaster88
Can you explain why EV-9D9 was a suspect at that early point? Do we know that the Idiot's Array story is not after EV's attempt?- I have no explanation, so I've moved EV-9D9's story to before Idiot's Array. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 17:54, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
- Great. I hoped that might be possible, but I wasn't sure. --Eyrezer 22:51, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
- I have no explanation, so I've moved EV-9D9's story to before Idiot's Array. Atarumaster88
"Furthermore, he stated that he intended to keep things running smoothly at Calrissian, using a modus operandi he described as the Lando System." Is this meant to be running smoothly at Bespin?- Reworded. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 20:24, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
- Reworded. Atarumaster88
The Fact Files sources list needs to be expanded, and the reference notes likewise made more specific. (per this CT).- Cav has promised me FF goodness, will update as soon as I have my hands on them. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 20:24, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
- Fact Files are now in the source list, and the references have been updated accordingly. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 21:12, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
- Fact Files are now in the source list, and the references have been updated accordingly. Atarumaster88
- Cav has promised me FF goodness, will update as soon as I have my hands on them. Atarumaster88
I suspect that "the death of scientist Lem on Cloud City" is the same as "when a noted scientist, Doctor Issan Len was murdered." These should be combined.- I was hoping someone would say that. It only appears as Lem in the Fact File, but I left in just because one could look at it through a hyperinclusionist point of view and say that they're different incidents. Removed. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 00:09, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- I added a redirect.
- I was hoping someone would say that. It only appears as Lem in the Fact File, but I left in just because one could look at it through a hyperinclusionist point of view and say that they're different incidents. Removed. Atarumaster88
The image of Boba Fett in the Precursor section is out of place. Is there no appropriate image from Crisis on Cloud City?- Working on it, but the images from Crisis are junk in quality. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 17:54, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
- Okay, I was able to get my hands on scans on every image from Crisis, and there's only one tolerable image of Calrissian, and it's a small, crudely-drawn black & white. If you want that, I can scan it in, but otherwise, there's only some general pictures of Cloud City and other characters. That being the case, I swapped out the Bob Fett one for another one from ESB that's a little less time-sensitive. However, if you want that one from Crisis or another, we can discuss, and I'm open to suggestions. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 16:10, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, I really don't like having the ESB image there, but I agree that the pics from inside Crisis are bad. However, I have an idea! What about a crop of the colour image of a firefight on the back of Crisis? As this must be depicting the events of the book, it seems a suitable image. --Eyrezer 12:28, 12 May 2009 (UTC) EDIT: Here it is here. A cleaner version would be nicer. What do you think? --Eyrezer 10:15, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- Uploaded and added. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 17:57, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
- Uploaded and added. Atarumaster88
- Yeah, I really don't like having the ESB image there, but I agree that the pics from inside Crisis are bad. However, I have an idea! What about a crop of the colour image of a firefight on the back of Crisis? As this must be depicting the events of the book, it seems a suitable image. --Eyrezer 12:28, 12 May 2009 (UTC) EDIT: Here it is here. A cleaner version would be nicer. What do you think? --Eyrezer 10:15, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- Okay, I was able to get my hands on scans on every image from Crisis, and there's only one tolerable image of Calrissian, and it's a small, crudely-drawn black & white. If you want that, I can scan it in, but otherwise, there's only some general pictures of Cloud City and other characters. That being the case, I swapped out the Bob Fett one for another one from ESB that's a little less time-sensitive. However, if you want that one from Crisis or another, we can discuss, and I'm open to suggestions. Atarumaster88
- Working on it, but the images from Crisis are junk in quality. Atarumaster88
"Just as they rocketed off the station," in the Destruction fo the Tarkin section. Were they in space suits or another ship? Could you clarify?- Clarified, with thanks to QuiGonJinn for the info. ;-) Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 16:07, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- Clarified, with thanks to QuiGonJinn for the info. ;-) Atarumaster88
A few of the WEG sources actually link to a disambig for first and second editions. Could you link to the actual ones, and add in the second editions, etc... unless we have policy otherwise.- I checked them, added in second editions for the two Galaxy Guides. I checked the others, but didn't see anything else at a first glance. Did you have other corrections in mind? Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 16:02, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- I checked them, added in second editions for the two Galaxy Guides. I checked the others, but didn't see anything else at a first glance. Did you have other corrections in mind? Atarumaster88
I'm fairly certain Lando will be in a number of video game guidebooks. (On a quick look at the source list, I couldn't see any.) These likely include the guides from Demolition, Jedi Outcast, and others...- I've taken care of this one myself.
- I've also tweaked the article with some small tidbits of information. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 15:56, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
- Great. --Eyrezer 23:03, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- I've also tweaked the article with some small tidbits of information. Atarumaster88
- I've taken care of this one myself.
Lando is in Star Wars: Rebellion (video game), and so also likely Rebellion: Prima's Official Strategy Guide. The game needs to be checked. --Eyrezer 08:27, 22 March 2009 (UTC)- I've talked to Borsk and gotten info from the game. I'll need to work on the guide-it's rather hard to get a hold of. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 17:57, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
- I've been reliably informed that this source contains no new info. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 17:20, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- I've been reliably informed that this source contains no new info. Atarumaster88
- I've talked to Borsk and gotten info from the game. I'll need to work on the guide-it's rather hard to get a hold of. Atarumaster88
The Return to Cloud City section: "Spotting a chance to divert Lobot's attention from himself to the Imperials..." I don't understand how this is meant to work. How will attacking the trooper's divert Lobot's attention? Secondly, there is only one short paragraph on Star Wars 83: Sweetheart Contract. This should be expanded to the level of detail of the other Marvel comics.--Eyrezer 11:10, 24 March 2009 (UTC)- Fixed. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 21:31, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
- Fixed. Atarumaster88
In the first paragraph of the Black Sun section, it would be good just to add a little half-line regarding Luke. The previous section ends with him left behind, and I know that he has some other adventures/complications. While they don't need to be described, it should mention that Luke has rejoined the Rebels or something.- Sure. Done. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 15:33, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- Sure. Done. Atarumaster88
Can you explain why Benedict Vidkun attacked them?- Fixed. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 15:33, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- Fixed. Atarumaster88
- I added this pic, but you may prefer this one instead. --Eyrezer 10:57, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
In the Star Wars Technical Journal (Volume One), page 17, it is mentioned that Lando added the quad lasers to the MF. I haven't read down to the ships section yet, but this should be added if not already. --Eyrezer 11:46, 31 March 2009 (UTC)- Adjusted. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 00:45, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
- Adjusted. Atarumaster88
Finding Argo and Vanis: context on who Mone is. How was Calrissian and co able to buy it from the Imps without them realizing they were rebels? Wasn't it because Lando disguised himself as Drebble?- Tweaked up. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 19:25, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
- Tweaked up. Atarumaster88
In the same section, "There, Calrissian learned that Solo had been delivered to Jabba Desilijic Tiure while undercover on Arcan IV, posing as Drebble." It is not clear who was undercover. Also, the mention of Arcan IV in this sentence is probably unnecessary. You also need to mention how/why Lando already had The Minstrel in his possession.- Fixed up. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 19:25, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
- Fixed up. Atarumaster88
Which member of the gang tried to steal the statue? A number of the members have articles here, and so a link should be added to the appropriate one, or a redlink given.- Fixed up. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 19:25, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
- Fixed up. Atarumaster88
"They then helped Organa board the Falcon and returned to rendezvous with Alliance forces." A bit more info here, please. (Mission to Yinchorr section)- Fixed up. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 17:14, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- Fixed up. Atarumaster88
You mention Calrissian is fluent in 18 languages. As far as possible, I think these should actually be specified in the Talents and abilities section. From earlier in the bio, we know that one is a Baragwinian trade dialect. Add this there too.- Did some looking around, found a number of specific languages. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 17:14, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- Did some looking around, found a number of specific languages. Atarumaster88
There needs to be a better conclusion to the Demolition paragraph: "But even that was not enough to impress Jabba and to be placed in the Hutt's palace as a guard". What happened in the competition? Did he win? Presumably we don't know exactly, but we must know something. A mention of other opponents could also be appropriate.- Tweaked, a bit. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 20:32, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
- Remind me of this one next time we're both in IRC. I have a few questions.
- Tweaked, a bit. Atarumaster88
"He was reluctant to abandon Leia to Jabba's mercy, but assured him she would be fine with a quick whisper." There is obviously a word missing here. I was going to add in a "she" but it seems from the next sentence that Leia didn't know it was Lando so it cannot have been her that was reassuring him... --Eyrezer 04:41, 22 April 2009 (UTC)- This objection was a pain, but after re-checking the radio drama and the novel, there appears to be a bit of a canon conflict. I've adjusted the text and tossed in a ref explaining everything. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 20:32, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry to cause you pain :P The change is acceptable.
- This objection was a pain, but after re-checking the radio drama and the novel, there appears to be a bit of a canon conflict. I've adjusted the text and tossed in a ref explaining everything. Atarumaster88
There needs to be context between para 1 and 2 of the "The Battle of Endor" section, mentioning both the presence of the Star Destroyers, and the functional Death Star laser. I actually feel this and the Hutt guardsman section could do with a polish in terms of language and cohesiveness.- Took a stab at polishing both. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 16:10, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Page 139 of The New Essential Guide to Weapons and Technology has a quote that might give you another sentence or two to add to the Battle of Endor section, re Lando's interaction with Nein Nunb. --Eyrezer 11:40, 12 May 2009 (UTC)"The Alliance knew that this fight would determine the fate of the war, as they would be engaging the Empire in a battle they had to win." This needs to be rewritten to be clearer as to what you mean. --Eyrezer 02:27, 14 May 2009 (UTC)You also have "upon reversion from hyperspace in two consecutive paragraphs (#2 and #3). The bit about knowing the Emperor would be there, as wellas believing that the laser was inoperational should be before the jamming part, which should also probably be joined with the trap part that comes later. --Eyrezer 02:29, 14 May 2009 (UTC)- Fixed up. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 17:57, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
I'll check this when I get home, but the discovery of the operational Death Star preceeded Lando's suggestion to close with the SDs, right? --Eyrezer 05:11, 18 May 2009 (UTC)- Yes, and I thought the article had said that. Nevertheless, I tweaked it a bit. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 20:14, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, and I thought the article had said that. Nevertheless, I tweaked it a bit. Atarumaster88
- Fixed up. Atarumaster88
- Took a stab at polishing both. Atarumaster88
In "Winning a Bet", Drebble is introduced with no context explaining why he had it in for Lando (or even linked). This should be explained to set up the Mission to the Hunter's World section later on. This also ties in to my objection above about the Finding Argo section... Likewise, this section is poorly connected back to the previous incident with Lemo and Sanda. It is as if both sections were written by different people unaware of what the other had written—which may actually have been the case. --Eyrezer 11:43, 2 May 2009 (UTC)- I think I fixed it up, but did you want me to take a look at the Finding Argo section also? Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 18:54, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
- I think I fixed it up, but did you want me to take a look at the Finding Argo section also? Atarumaster88
The last paragraph of "Work for the Alliance" is unclear and needs to be rewritten. Ie, all the stuff about Solo's passengers having codes but why they couldn't give it to Solo, who said passengers were, etc. --Eyrezer 05:03, 3 May 2009 (UTC)- Rewritten. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 20:14, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
- Rewritten. Atarumaster88
Lando gets a page in Star Wars Handbook 3: Dark Empire. I haven't read up to that section, but I suggest it should be looked over. There is also a pic of him and Wedge that could be useful.- Fixed up, but I don't think we need the pic at the moment. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 20:14, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
- Fixed up, but I don't think we need the pic at the moment. Atarumaster88
While it is in the source list, Escape from Cloud City doesn't seem to be reffed. There is some info in there that would be good for the Bts. --Eyrezer 12:12, 12 May 2009 (UTC)- Fixed up. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 20:14, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
- Fixed up. Atarumaster88
Second battle of Endor section: "Concerned by the fact that he no longer was part of the Alliance's decision making process, he now hoped to be employed as a piloting teacher." This needs some explanation.- Explained. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 20:14, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
- Explained. Atarumaster88
I removed a pic from the Second Battle fo Endor section that was misplaced. A new pic that is more appropriate to the text needs to be added.- Added. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 15:18, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
- Added. Atarumaster88
Nagai-Tof war has two sentences in a row beginning with However. Actually this section feels too rushed. It could be expanded to provide more context and so be easier to follow. --Eyrezer 03:00, 14 May 2009 (UTC)- Did some more expansion, but Lando doesn't do a whole lot on Zeltros besides party and get captured, until MSW 107. Let me know if you want more. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 15:18, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
- Did some more expansion, but Lando doesn't do a whole lot on Zeltros besides party and get captured, until MSW 107. Let me know if you want more. Atarumaster88
This is for an earlier section - you have consecutive refs for the Galaxywide NewsNets in SWAJ5 in the same paragraph. Is there meant to a different ref in between these? If not, they should be merged. --Eyrezer 03:09, 14 May 2009 (UTC)- Got confused because it was off of two different parts of the NewsNet. Refs merged. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 15:18, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
- Got confused because it was off of two different parts of the NewsNet. Refs merged. Atarumaster88
The formation of Lando's Commandos occurs at two separate places. Can the Tales story be set before the NEC incident? Also can the Tales story be expanded? It would also be appropriate to mention how the Trioculus affair concluded and hence the dissolution of SPIN. --Eyrezer 10:53, 14 May 2009 (UTC)- Checked, moved, expanded, mentioned. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 20:14, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
- Checked, moved, expanded, mentioned. Atarumaster88
The Star Wars: Galactic Battlegrounds mission to Kashyyyk needs to be expanded. --Eyrezer 04:10, 1 June 2009 (UTC)- Buffed it some, but it's a pretty open-ended mission, if you've played it. There's a little cutscene with Lando talking at the beginning, then during some point in the battle, he shows up in the MF with Rogue Squadron. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 16:38, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
- Buffed it some, but it's a pretty open-ended mission, if you've played it. There's a little cutscene with Lando talking at the beginning, then during some point in the battle, he shows up in the MF with Rogue Squadron. Atarumaster88
Nomad City section: "He was wounded in the attack" - who was?- Fixed. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 16:38, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
- Fixed. Atarumaster88
"The mole-miners, packed with boarding teams, had been ordered into a large number of New Republic ships" Ordered into? This is pretty unclear. I presume you are meaning they attacked the NR ships by drilling into them...- Yes. Clarified. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 16:38, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
- Yes. Clarified. Atarumaster88
"Calrissian refused to believe that Solo and Skywalker would go on their mission without him, though, and coaxed the news from Solo that he might be able to arrange a deal for metals from Nkllon on New Cov if he stayed with him. Calrissian then reluctantly decided to join Solo and Skywalker." Can you clarify this bit?- Sure. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 16:38, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
- Sure. Atarumaster88
"aided Skywalker by translating for him" Do we know what language? If so, it could be added to the P&T section. (I'm not suggesting the language needs to be addded to this section itself.- It's Rodian. I added that to his Talents section when you made your initial language objection about the Baragwinian trade dialect. Did you want it in P&T also? Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 16:38, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
- No that's fine. I checked the refs, but I must have been looking for the wrong source.
- It's Rodian. I added that to his Talents section when you made your initial language objection about the Baragwinian trade dialect. Did you want it in P&T also? Atarumaster88
"In the race to reach the lost Dreadnaught fleet" This paragraph begins with there being a race, but it has not yet been established that the Empire is aware of the Katana fleet. Can you modify this a bit so that it flows better? Also, here, the mention of Mara Jade should build on her earlier mention on Myrkr.- Fixed up. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 16:38, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
- Fixed up. Atarumaster88
I added a pic of Nomad City to the start of this section. I think another image from the comic adaption would be good, too. Perhaps one of lando in action on Myrkr. --Eyrezer 04:45, 1 June 2009 (UTC)- Xicer9 added one. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 17:42, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
- Xicer9 added one. Atarumaster88
"During the resurrection of Emperor Palpatine in 10 ABY," a better introduction to this section, please. --Eyrezer 08:42, 2 June 2009 (UTC)- Rephrased. Chack Jadson (Talk) 17:57, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
- I expanded it more to what I had in mind. --Eyrezer 03:38, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
- Rephrased. Chack Jadson (Talk) 17:57, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
This is a nasty one. I see from below that originally the Shadows of the Empire part was in the middle of the Marvel. You moved it because there seemed to be no discernible reason for it to be there. Well, there just may be one... in regard to Marvel 67, a poster on tfn points out "Interestingly enough, it just occurs to me that Shadows of the Empire must have already taken place before any of these Marvel stories because I realize Luke has a lightsaber and he constructed it in the start of that story." If Luke does construct a LS in SOTE, this seems a fair point. Can you check either way? It could do with a Bts explaining the placement if it gets moved back. --Eyrezer 09:33, 3 June 2009 (UTC)- Negative. That part referenced below is the Evolutions segment, not actual SOTE. The SOTE segment is where it is because of NEC, which places the events of SOTE right after the Battle of the City of Bone in Marvel 69. If anything, I'll need to move the Trouble on Stenos section to before SOTE, but I want to check a few more sources before I do so. NEC also places the events of SOTE before the events of "Finding Argo and Vanis." As unfortunate as that may be for your TFN poster, we're going to have to assume that, in the same line as the Tydirium nonsense, Luke had more than one "new" lightsaber. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 04:57, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
- So according to NEC, its:
- Star Wars 69: Death in the City of Bone (The Business on Bazarre section)
- Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire (Encounter with Black Sun)
- Star Wars 71: Return to Stenos (Finding Argo and Vanis)
- Leaving it unclear only whether Star Wars 70: The Stenax Shuffle (Trouble on Stenos) goes before or after SOTE? --Eyrezer 05:46, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
- Yep, that's pretty much it. Let me do some more research and get back to you. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 15:23, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
- Star Wars 70, 71 take place before SOTE, according to NEGTC. It's Marvel 73 that's the Argo and Vanis bit, which I'm saying is where the Marvels pick up after SOTE. The presence of Dani makes it sort of interesting, but I guess she was hanging out while Lando and Co. did SOTE—canon explicitly gives the timeline for the Stenos and Argo and Vanis stuff, and SOTE is between them. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 15:44, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
- Ok. Seeing as it is a combination of using NEGTC and NEC that determines exactly where SOTE falls in the Marvel line, please add a footnote to this effect. --Eyrezer 05:38, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
- Ref'd in several places explaining the arrangement. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 17:42, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
- Ref'd in several places explaining the arrangement. Atarumaster88
- Ok. Seeing as it is a combination of using NEGTC and NEC that determines exactly where SOTE falls in the Marvel line, please add a footnote to this effect. --Eyrezer 05:38, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
- Star Wars 70, 71 take place before SOTE, according to NEGTC. It's Marvel 73 that's the Argo and Vanis bit, which I'm saying is where the Marvels pick up after SOTE. The presence of Dani makes it sort of interesting, but I guess she was hanging out while Lando and Co. did SOTE—canon explicitly gives the timeline for the Stenos and Argo and Vanis stuff, and SOTE is between them. Atarumaster88
- Yep, that's pretty much it. Let me do some more research and get back to you. Atarumaster88
- So according to NEC, its:
- Negative. That part referenced below is the Evolutions segment, not actual SOTE. The SOTE segment is where it is because of NEC, which places the events of SOTE right after the Battle of the City of Bone in Marvel 69. If anything, I'll need to move the Trouble on Stenos section to before SOTE, but I want to check a few more sources before I do so. NEC also places the events of SOTE before the events of "Finding Argo and Vanis." As unfortunate as that may be for your TFN poster, we're going to have to assume that, in the same line as the Tydirium nonsense, Luke had more than one "new" lightsaber. Atarumaster88
Empire Reborn section: "However, Skywalker was unwilling to leave the planet." Can you add why this was?- Done. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 23:30, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
- Done. Atarumaster88
"Calrissian then informed the New Republic leaders about a cargo of large X-1 Viper war droids" This paragraph could do with some expansion and context. Firstly, what is the connection between this scene and the end of DEI? It doesn't seem to be immediately after Mon Cal, so a sentence about the overall war would place it in context. Secondly, does Calrissian suggest infiltrating the Vipers? Explain why they want to attack Byss, etc.- Significantly fixed up. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 22:39, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
- Significantly fixed up. Atarumaster88
The next paragraph also needs more context than "later". Perhaps explain a bit about what the Eclipse II was. Also what the Galaxy Gun was. At the moment this paragraph is far too bare bones.- I think I've corrected the issues here. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 22:39, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
- I think I've corrected the issues here. Atarumaster88
Significant improvements to this section. The last thing I think it needs as overall context is the fact that the Emperor was finally defeated on the surface of Onderon. Similar to Thrawn's death, while not immediately related to Lando, it is a significant event that would give closure to this section. --Eyrezer 10:49, 27 July 2009 (UTC)- Touched up with a contextifying sentence. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 05:20, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
- Touched up with a contextifying sentence. Atarumaster88
Kessel investment: wasn't Lando bored, which is why he helped Luke's search? --Eyrezer 00:40, 23 June 2009 (UTC)- I clarified it—he wasn't so much bored as he was out of work. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 15:53, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
- I clarified it—he wasn't so much bored as he was out of work. Atarumaster88
The first paragraph of "Kessel investment" feels repetitive, ie, the stuff about searching for FS. --Eyrezer 06:33, 10 August 2009 (UTC)- I've trimmed it up some, let me know if you want more culling. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 16:58, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
- I've trimmed it up some, let me know if you want more culling. Atarumaster88
"Finding the Millennium Falcon in Doole's private fleet, the two ersatz "businessmen" confronted Doole, who fired at them and ran off the ship. In response, the Jedi and gambler took the ship and fled, though Calrissian was forced to leave the Lady Luck on Kessel." When I read this, I had no sense of where the second part of the first sentence occurs. Can you reword it to clarify?I actually rewrote part of this section, re Han Solo's escape. You should probably check it to see if you prefer my way.Durron is later introduced as a Dark Jedi with no context. Please add some.I also think there must be a better pic for this section other than the second black-and-white one of Lando. Are there any of the various battles that occurred in this section? --Eyrezer 04:33, 15 August 2009 (UTC)- All of the previous four are tweaked up, but I haven't found any pictures of battles where Lando was actually at on the wiki. Put in one of the blob races instead. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 04:27, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
- All of the previous four are tweaked up, but I haven't found any pictures of battles where Lando was actually at on the wiki. Put in one of the blob races instead. Atarumaster88
Next section: Run-in with the Imperial Remnant. Firstly, do we know why Lando still has an interest in Cloud City at this point?- Sort of. The NRI reports are vague, but I've tried to make the connection clearer. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 21:55, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
- Sort of. The NRI reports are vague, but I've tried to make the connection clearer. Atarumaster88
Can you explain how they found out where Leia was?Done, and given all of Planet of Twilight a bit of a buff as well. Atarumaster88(Talk page) 21:55, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
Much better, but Chewie appears out of nowhere at the moment. --Eyrezer 23:58, 21 August 2009 (UTC)Fixed up. Atarumaster88(Talk page) 16:04, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
It also seems to be missing a mention of Lando convincing Nien Nunb to return to Vandelheim for the 10 year anniversary. This info can be found both here and here. Somewhat interestingly, this seems to be the only event we know Lando was involved in during 14 ABY. --Eyrezer 04:59, 20 August 2009 (UTC)- Info added. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 21:55, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
- Info added. Atarumaster88
It currently lacks info from Agents of Deception. The story outline can be found here and while suitably vague, should be added in. There are some clues to placement too. --Eyrezer 06:34, 20 August 2009 (UTC)- Interesting. I'll add this, but I'm having some trouble on the dating. Obviously, it's during the GCW, but while it describes Calrissian as the newly appointed Baron Administrator and it's pre-4 ABY due to Jabba's existence, I'm having a hard time reconciling the fact that he wasn't a Rebel. Am I correct in thinking this should go after "Revenge attempts"? Just seems weird. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 21:55, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
- It is a bit of a mess, and I'd be tempted to throw some tags around it, too. I don't see anything that requires Jabba to be in it though. That could be any other Hutt. I've asked Mauser for a clarification if there is anything else related to a plot in the game. At the moment, at the end of Revenge attempts seems about the right place to me too. By the way, have we ever heard about Lando's original fallout with Nandreeson? As a positive addition to continuity, this could be it - although of course not canonised as such here. --Eyrezer 01:33, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
- It's mentioned in TNR and NEC, but not specifically shown IU. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 16:04, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
- Okay, did some digging. This can't be the original fallout with Nandreeson, since that was before Calrissian became the Baron Administrator. Hopefully, Calrissian won't end up on Smuggler's Run during this little adventure, or else canon will be broken by Galaxies yet again. I added it into the middle of the Life as Baron Administrator section rather than Revenge attempts—it seemed to fit better there. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 16:46, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
- Great. There is apparently more information available on this in the game itself. Craven is currently trying to unlock this at the moment, so I will leave this objection live at the moment. --Eyrezer 05:11, September 3, 2009 (UTC)
- OK, I didn't have much time in the last few days, but I finally managed to beat all scenarios in both campaigns. It's a nice story with familiar characters like BoShek and Blackhole. But unfortunately, it breaks canon in at least two instances. Lando indeed returns to Smuggler's Run to retrieve the ryll shipment. And what's almost worse is that he works and fights alongside Han and Chewie. And this happens shortly after he became administrator of Cloud City. I haven't read all that's written about Han's and Lando's relationship, but I just can't imagine that they would work together between the events of Underworld: The Yavin Vassilika and EP5. And Lando seems to have close ties to the Alliance, as he sends Wedge to help the player character. Maybe Lando worked with the Alliance to return the ryll shipment because he had sold the ryll to the Alliance and wanted to get his payment? But that's just speculation, of course. I took screenshots and uploaded all the texts and important cards here (there are sub-albums for the indiviual campaigns and scenarios, linked on the left side of the page) The two campaigns (light and dark side) are intertwined. IMO the final Dark side scenario takes place after the last Light side scenario - so the light side player beats Blackhole, then Lando, Han and Chewie arrive at Skip 52 to retrieve the ryll and then the dark side player character shows up and defeats them in a firefight. --Craven 18:23, September 10, 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the information! I've tried to write it all out on my [[User:Atarumaster88/scratchpad|scratchpad]], but there are some serious problems. For one, as you've said, the canonicity of this thing should be 0. The other is that I can't tell if the dark side campaign is non-canon or not. I tried to write it in such a way that both could work, but I dunno. Some official confirmation (Leland maybe?) would be good on this. I'm hoping this is non-canon, though. Ew. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 15:49, September 14, 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the information! I've tried to write it all out on my [[User:Atarumaster88/scratchpad|scratchpad]], but there are some serious problems. For one, as you've said, the canonicity of this thing should be 0. The other is that I can't tell if the dark side campaign is non-canon or not. I tried to write it in such a way that both could work, but I dunno. Some official confirmation (Leland maybe?) would be good on this. I'm hoping this is non-canon, though. Ew. Atarumaster88
- OK, I didn't have much time in the last few days, but I finally managed to beat all scenarios in both campaigns. It's a nice story with familiar characters like BoShek and Blackhole. But unfortunately, it breaks canon in at least two instances. Lando indeed returns to Smuggler's Run to retrieve the ryll shipment. And what's almost worse is that he works and fights alongside Han and Chewie. And this happens shortly after he became administrator of Cloud City. I haven't read all that's written about Han's and Lando's relationship, but I just can't imagine that they would work together between the events of Underworld: The Yavin Vassilika and EP5. And Lando seems to have close ties to the Alliance, as he sends Wedge to help the player character. Maybe Lando worked with the Alliance to return the ryll shipment because he had sold the ryll to the Alliance and wanted to get his payment? But that's just speculation, of course. I took screenshots and uploaded all the texts and important cards here (there are sub-albums for the indiviual campaigns and scenarios, linked on the left side of the page) The two campaigns (light and dark side) are intertwined. IMO the final Dark side scenario takes place after the last Light side scenario - so the light side player beats Blackhole, then Lando, Han and Chewie arrive at Skip 52 to retrieve the ryll and then the dark side player character shows up and defeats them in a firefight. --Craven 18:23, September 10, 2009 (UTC)
- Great. There is apparently more information available on this in the game itself. Craven is currently trying to unlock this at the moment, so I will leave this objection live at the moment. --Eyrezer 05:11, September 3, 2009 (UTC)
- Okay, did some digging. This can't be the original fallout with Nandreeson, since that was before Calrissian became the Baron Administrator. Hopefully, Calrissian won't end up on Smuggler's Run during this little adventure, or else canon will be broken by Galaxies yet again. I added it into the middle of the Life as Baron Administrator section rather than Revenge attempts—it seemed to fit better there. Atarumaster88
- It's mentioned in TNR and NEC, but not specifically shown IU. Atarumaster88
- It is a bit of a mess, and I'd be tempted to throw some tags around it, too. I don't see anything that requires Jabba to be in it though. That could be any other Hutt. I've asked Mauser for a clarification if there is anything else related to a plot in the game. At the moment, at the end of Revenge attempts seems about the right place to me too. By the way, have we ever heard about Lando's original fallout with Nandreeson? As a positive addition to continuity, this could be it - although of course not canonised as such here. --Eyrezer 01:33, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
- Interesting. I'll add this, but I'm having some trouble on the dating. Obviously, it's during the GCW, but while it describes Calrissian as the newly appointed Baron Administrator and it's pre-4 ABY due to Jabba's existence, I'm having a hard time reconciling the fact that he wasn't a Rebel. Am I correct in thinking this should go after "Revenge attempts"? Just seems weird. Atarumaster88
Black Fleet Crisis: "Calrissian and his team were able to conjecture that the ship was of Qella origin, and that its communications pulse was part of the Qellan genetic code." This feels a bit truncated. Can you explain how they reached such a conclusion?- Explained. Hopefully it's not too wordy now. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 16:04, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
- Explained. Hopefully it's not too wordy now. Atarumaster88
Did Lando think the commander was too cautious or not cautious enough? It seems to change which may be what occurs in the story, but I thought I'd check. --Eyrezer 09:51, 23 August 2009 (UTC)- Lando generally thinks that Pakkpekatt isn't cautious enough, but the commander is also unwilling to provoke the vagabond, so I guess it's both. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 16:04, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
- Lando generally thinks that Pakkpekatt isn't cautious enough, but the commander is also unwilling to provoke the vagabond, so I guess it's both. Atarumaster88
At some point you should go through and ensure you have consistency on whether the article uses "s's" or just " s' ".- Any particular words that are inconsistent? Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 16:04, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
- I just noticed that sometimes the plurals have the extra s and sometimes they do not. While it's possible it's done intensionally, I think our general policy is to have it consistent, one way or the other throughout the article. --Eyrezer 21:07, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
- Any particular words that are inconsistent? Atarumaster88
Can you check the current link to limpet is correct? A mine doesn't sound quite right to me. It may require a redlink.- Fixed up. That was a very old redlink bust; I fixed the limpet article. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 16:04, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
- Fixed up. That was a very old redlink bust; I fixed the limpet article. Atarumaster88
With regard to the relationships section on Mara, can you add in something about the timeframe of his infatuation? It seems to have lasted for numerous years.- Added a sentence to the relationships section; it was basically off and on from 11-17 ABY. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 16:04, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
- Added a sentence to the relationships section; it was basically off and on from 11-17 ABY. Atarumaster88
Almanian section: This is poorly introduced, and the first para ends with "However, he also found evidence that Solo had possibly known about the bombing in the Senate Hall that had not long before rocked Coruscant.[1]" which is a poor way of explaining what the Almanian crisis was. Please re-word/re-write the intro to this section.- Tweaked up. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 16:46, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
- Tweaked up. Atarumaster88
There is an inconsistency over what Lando stole from Nandreeson. Here is is said to be weapons; earlier it is said to be a treasure cache. This also seems to provide a year/date for the earlier incident. This year - 3 BBY? - should be added to the text of the earlier encounter. --Eyrezer 11:24, 25 August 2009 (UTC)- Fixed, except for the year thing. When I can get to my NEC again later today, I'll add it in. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 16:46, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
- Fixed, except for the year thing. When I can get to my NEC again later today, I'll add it in. Atarumaster88
The Yuuzhan Vong War section: the early efforts section feels like it could be expanded quite a bit. For instance, IIRC, more could be added about the Solo kids trip to Dubrillion and their run etc, possibly with additions from Running the Belt.- I don't have that source; I'll see about expanding from Vector Prime soon, that should be the last of them up to that point. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 03:26, November 23, 2009 (UTC)
- All fixed. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 19:23, December 5, 2009 (UTC)
- I'll wait to strike this until "Running the Belt" has been checked. --Eyrezer 03:37, December 6, 2009 (UTC)
- It has been. ;) Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 04:06, December 7, 2009 (UTC)
- It has been. ;) Atarumaster88
- I'll wait to strike this until "Running the Belt" has been checked. --Eyrezer 03:37, December 6, 2009 (UTC)
- All fixed. Atarumaster88
- I don't have that source; I'll see about expanding from Vector Prime soon, that should be the last of them up to that point. Atarumaster88
The attack on Dub could also be expanded.- Expanded. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 03:26, November 23, 2009 (UTC)
- Expanded. Atarumaster88
Add more about Shelter, for instance, details on the representatives he met there. Randa and Numa Rar, no?- Done, but I'm scraping the barrel for new info from EoV II. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 06:26, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
- Done, but I'm scraping the barrel for new info from EoV II. Atarumaster88
Also add a date or two.- Done. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 16:54, November 9, 2009 (UTC)
- Done. Atarumaster88
I'd like to know more about the Peace Brigade approach if possible. That one was new to me.- Nothing there. Calrissian mentions it offhandedly to the Solos in EoV II and I've squeezed as much as I can from it. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 06:26, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
- Nothing there. Calrissian mentions it offhandedly to the Solos in EoV II and I've squeezed as much as I can from it. Atarumaster88
More about the YV droids and the assassination attempt.- I tried to expand it some without going into play-by-play. Let me know. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 17:32, November 2, 2009 (UTC)
- I tried to expand it some without going into play-by-play. Let me know. Atarumaster88
More about his role in the mission to Myrkr. --Eyrezer 05:27, October 28, 2009 (UTC)- Same as above. I gave SBS a significant buff, but if you think it needs more, let me know. These are kinda largish objections, but I'll get them finished as soon as I can. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 17:32, November 2, 2009 (UTC)
- Same as above. I gave SBS a significant buff, but if you think it needs more, let me know. These are kinda largish objections, but I'll get them finished as soon as I can. Atarumaster88
"Concurrently, the asteroid belt also served to train smugglers in techniques needed to evade hunters, including a group of Jedi that were chasing down smugglers in the Outer Rim." It's a little unclear here. Did the Jedi get training, or were the smugglers trained to avoid the Jedi?- Fixed. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 04:06, December 7, 2009 (UTC)
- Fixed. Atarumaster88
"By the time Leia Solo returned a short time after the funeral," I presume this is Chewie's funeral. This should be specified and it might be an appropriate point to mention that Calrissian did not go to the funeral because he felt guilty, etc. [EDIT] Actually I see you mention the funeral and his reasons a bit later. It would seem best to me to address the funeral at just one place, perhaps at the earliest mention. --Eyrezer 03:06, December 6, 2009 (UTC)- Fixed. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 04:06, December 7, 2009 (UTC)
- Fixed. Atarumaster88
"he assisted them in their escape instead, and his guilt about his responsibility for the Wookiee's death also plagued him. Calrissian felt extremely guilty because of this, to the point where he did not attend Chewbacca's funeral due to his guilt, and his relationship with Solo was strained." The guilt, guilt, guilt is a bit clumsy here. Can you reword this?- Cleared up. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 04:06, December 7, 2009 (UTC)
- Cleared up. Atarumaster88
"Calrissian would later feel considerable guilt for helping deliver many of the Jedi, including Leia's son Anakin, to their deaths on this mission." I think this sentence would be better placed in the next paragraph where it mentions he was on Coruscant when Leia felt Anakin's death. --Eyrezer 03:25, December 6, 2009 (UTC)- Moved. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 04:06, December 7, 2009 (UTC)
- Moved. Atarumaster88
The end of early efforts is a repeat of the start of Fall of Coruscant... --Eyrezer 03:40, December 6, 2009 (UTC)- Lol, fixed. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 04:06, December 7, 2009 (UTC)
- Lol, fixed. Atarumaster88
- If someone with skills can clean it up, this image would be appropriate for the sections covering Lando's Folly. --Eyrezer 08:56, December 6, 2009 (UTC)
- Toprawa:
- I realize I promised you the ESB RD script notes, but until that time, here's the objection for their missing info.
- Also, you're missing info from the ROTJ radio drama/script.
- Can you be a little more specific about which parts? I gave it a listen when Hydro made his initial ESB objection, and while I don't have the script, I did add info from the radio drama. Was there something in particular you were looking for? Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 22:32, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
- Sure. I'm in the process of listening to it now for my article purposes, so I might add to this, but two things that strike me as pertinent are the scene in which he first approaches Leia in Jabba's palace to reveal himself, meaning that not everyone in the Save Han group knew how he had gotten in and where he was; and secondly the scene in which they first leave Tatooine, they're forced escape past an Imperial blockade. Lando just sits in the Falcon's cockpit and doesn't do anything but talk, but a mention would be appropriate, I feel. Toprawa and Ralltiir 22:35, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
- While en route to the Rebel fleet from Tatooine, Lando and the group help sooth Threepio's hurt feelings about not being privy to the specifics of the rescue Han plan. They talk about Corellian Overdrive, and Lando goes on to fix Threepio's damaged photoreceptor. Toprawa and Ralltiir 22:46, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
- There's actually a lot more to that scene. Han and Lando talk about how the Falcon was in Lando's possession during Han's carbonite days, etc. Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:07, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
- ROTJ radio drama has been located, listened to, and the article updated appropriately. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 17:54, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
- ROTJ radio drama has been located, listened to, and the article updated appropriately. Atarumaster88
- Can you be a little more specific about which parts? I gave it a listen when Hydro made his initial ESB objection, and while I don't have the script, I did add info from the radio drama. Was there something in particular you were looking for? Atarumaster88
- Including "TCG: Return of the Jedi" and "The Empire Strikes Back (TCG)" in the Source list just isn't good enough, I'm afraid. Moreover, I see only a single CCG card in that entire Source list, which tells me you haven't really scoured these cards for new information. You'd be surprised to find some new tidbits here and there. I realize there are probably dozens upon dozens of cards with Lando info on them, but if you're going to include one, you need to include them all. Yes, I know it sucks, and it's hard work, but this is an FA. Toprawa and Ralltiir 22:20, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
- "if you're going to include one, you need to include them all." Does this mean I just get away with removing that one? :-P ^_^ (lol, jk). No, in all seriousness, you're absolutely right. I've done all the CCG cards, and I'll let you know when I get the radio stuff and TCG ones added in. I'm going to be kind of busy until the end of the week due to RL though. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 20:40, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- 5 and a half dozen TCG and CCG cards added to source list? Is that better? Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 18:01, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
- 5 and a half dozen TCG and CCG cards added to source list? Is that better? Atarumaster88
- "if you're going to include one, you need to include them all." Does this mean I just get away with removing that one? :-P ^_^ (lol, jk). No, in all seriousness, you're absolutely right. I've done all the CCG cards, and I'll let you know when I get the radio stuff and TCG ones added in. I'm going to be kind of busy until the end of the week due to RL though. Atarumaster88
- QuiGon:
No info from The Gambler's Quest.- I've added a short paragraph myself based on what was written in the plot summary for this comic. I think it's sufficient. QuiGonJinnThere's always a bigger fish. 15:57, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
Some things are missing in the appearances list. Mighty Chronicles adaptations, Star Wars The Empire Strikes Back Mobile, Super Star Wars series, etc.QuiGonJinnBe mindful of the Living Force...
17:54, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
- Took care of it myself per Ataru's request. QuiGonJinnThere's always a bigger fish. 16:43, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
More missing info from N.R.I. Reports. Small tidbits about Lando requesting aid from the Senate.QuiGonJinnThere's always a bigger fish. 19:30, 12 March 2009 (UTC)- Added. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 19:58, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
- Added. Atarumaster88
Are you sure that the "Black Sun coup" section should go between the Marvel stories? It would make much more sense to place it after the Nagai-Tof war. All Marvel stories are linked to each other pretty tight and there is no gap in the plot for SotE: Evolution to take place.QuiGonJinnThere's always a bigger fish. 20:53, 14 March 2009 (UTC)- After some research, I've seen no reason to leave the layout as is, and the Black Sun coup is now placed after the Marvel sections. Seems to make more sense that way. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 15:56, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
- After some research, I've seen no reason to leave the layout as is, and the Black Sun coup is now placed after the Marvel sections. Seems to make more sense that way. Atarumaster88
"The Mindharp of Sharu" section. Context on Jabba.Also, context needed on Darth Vader and Luke upon first mentions in the "Trap at Cloud City"" section.Explain what was so important in Luke that Vader set a trap for him.Same section."Especially after the disappearance of C-3PO" Provide some context on what really happened to him. Then mention somewhere in this section that 3PO was recovered, because as it is now, it left me under the impression that the droid was still missing when Lando and the others left Bespin.Same section again. "in pursuit of the Millennium Falcon and its Rebel crew". Mention that it was Han who has joined the Rebels, because it can be interpreted as if some unknown Rebels have acquired the ship.Mention that Lando flirted with Leia and/or add it to the relationships.- All of QuiGon's objections up through this have been fixed. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 01:08, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
- All of QuiGon's objections up through this have been fixed. Atarumaster88
The "Skywalker's affliction" section. Context on Domina Tagge.Same section. "which Darth Vader had falsely accused Luke of being responsible for". Rephrase. Yes, Vader did falsely accuse Luke the first time, but then Skywalker killed Tagge for real in issue 37, even if he did it by accident."Finding Argo and Vanis" section. Last sentence: "but were apparently unable to find anything." Unsourced.Same section. Context on the second Death Star.Linking problems. Jabba is linked in both "The Mindharp of Sharu" and "Mission to Blimph 3" sections, while the second Death Star is not linked at all upon the first mention in "Finding Argo and Vanis", but is instead linked in "The Battle of Endor"; and the link is that of the Death Star in general instead of Death Star II. Check other links."Near-death experience on Godo". Context on Bey.Mention that Lumiya changed sides and allied herself with Tofs. And that she was shot on Saijo.- All of these should be fixed. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 21:31, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
- All of these should be fixed. Atarumaster88
Stay tuned.QuiGonJinnThere's always a bigger fish. 21:01, 30 March 2009 (UTC)"Nomad City". Context on Ecclessis Figg, ysalamiri. Also, why Thrawn needed the ysalamiri?"Karrde hid the two former generals" Next sentence:"As such, the two former generals". Repetitive, rephrase."Karrde knew that was where Skywalker, who had escaped from his custody, and his pursuer, a woman named Mara Jade, would flee to, and that the Empire would find them and realize that Karrde had not turned over Skywalker to them." Maybe it's just me, but this sentence seems weird.- I've finally understood what this sentence says and I think I had some difficulty with it because of the missing "that". I've added it myself.
"After trekking through kilometers of forest, fending off predators, the party received when some Noghri commandos". Received what?- Everything from "Nomad City" down to here has been fixed. Although, Figg was already contextified. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 01:08, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but I haven't seen any context. You didn't say who Figg was. I've added it myself, just to show you what I wanted in the first place. QuiGonJinnThere's always a bigger fish. 11:45, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
- I figured that saying that Figg was the one who first built Cloud City was sufficient context, but I have no problems with your change. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 15:56, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
- I figured that saying that Figg was the one who first built Cloud City was sufficient context, but I have no problems with your change. Atarumaster88
- I'm sorry, but I haven't seen any context. You didn't say who Figg was. I've added it myself, just to show you what I wanted in the first place. QuiGonJinnThere's always a bigger fish. 11:45, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
- Everything from "Nomad City" down to here has been fixed. Although, Figg was already contextified. Atarumaster88
"Palpatine reborn": "Unbeknownst to Calrissian, Skywalker had fallen to the dark side of the Force, and was in fact commanding the Imperial fleet". Mention that prior to that, he gave the codes to Artoo.Same section. Mention that Skywalker was redeemed after all.- I think Chack fixed these a couple days ago when he reworked that section. :-) Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 21:37, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
- I think Chack fixed these a couple days ago when he reworked that section. :-) Atarumaster88
"Run-in with the Imperial Remnant" Context on Reelo Baruk.After the events of Jedi Outcast that happened in 12 ABY you mention the events of Planet of Twilight as happening the same year, yet the latter is placed here on Wook in 13 ABY. I don't know if it is really a mistake, because I haven't read the book."Tag and Bink". Context on Tag.- Last three fixed. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 15:52, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
- Last three fixed. Atarumaster88
- I guess that's all. QuiGonJinnThere's always a bigger fish. 11:57, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
One more thing. Is there nothing to add from Ord Vaxal: Prison Planet of the Empire?QuiGonJinnThere's always a bigger fish. 14:19, 8 April 2009 (UTC)- According to Jaymach via IRC, he's only pictured in it. I've tagged the source appropriately. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 20:32, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
- According to Jaymach via IRC, he's only pictured in it. I've tagged the source appropriately. Atarumaster88
- From Ataru
- I'm aware that there are redlink problems and image arrangements. I will fix those once Eyre's and Hydro's objections regarding content are satisfied. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 17:47, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
- I'm aware that there are redlink problems and image arrangements. I will fix those once Eyre's and Hydro's objections regarding content are satisfied. Atarumaster88
- Jinzler
The Star Wars Annual 2009 reveals that Lando made a few message recordings that were stored in R2-D2. He made one aboard the Falcon, telling the events of ESB up to his departure from Bespin. He recorded another two messages while on Endor, about the battle there --Jinzler 12:39, 19 July 2009 (UTC)- All fixed, thanks for the info. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 15:31, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
- All fixed, thanks for the info. Atarumaster88
You need way more context for the events surrounding the Second Galactic Civil War. Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 20:15, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
- I've added more context to it. Let me know if that's good enough, or if you want more. Since Calrissian was only peripherally involved for the most part, I didn't want to go too deep into it. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 15:56, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
- No, that's exactly the kind of context I was looking for. I'm striking the objection, although I will sucggest a rewording of "Calrissian remained with his expecting wife through the remainder of the war, which resulted in the death of Jacen Solo at the hands of the Jedi Order." just because it sounds a little like Lando being with his wife resulted in Jacen's death.Darth Trayus
(Trayus Academy) 22:49, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
- No, that's exactly the kind of context I was looking for. I'm striking the objection, although I will sucggest a rewording of "Calrissian remained with his expecting wife through the remainder of the war, which resulted in the death of Jacen Solo at the hands of the Jedi Order." just because it sounds a little like Lando being with his wife resulted in Jacen's death.Darth Trayus
- I've added more context to it. Let me know if that's good enough, or if you want more. Since Calrissian was only peripherally involved for the most part, I didn't want to go too deep into it. Atarumaster88
I don't know the specific plot details of it, but Lando features in the story mode of Agents of Deception, which says something in it's article about him leading a team of Rebels to find a missing shipment of ryll --Jinzler 12:24, 31 August 2009 (UTC)- Addressed per Eyre's objection above. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 16:46, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry, I didn't see that --Jinzler 22:22, September 23, 2009 (UTC)
- Addressed per Eyre's objection above. Atarumaster88
Missing some info from Chewbacca 3 (I think). Specifically, the encounter with the unidentified Moff and the small fact there that Lando wore silk. I can't actually find any reference to either in other articles so whether it is a Tales-esque level of canon or not is my guess.Nayayentalk 21:47, September 26, 2009 (UTC)
- Whoops, I missed seeing this objection earlier. I've acquired the source and will update the article later today. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 16:08, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
- Fixed. It's canon via one of the Essential Guides, I remember reading about it. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 04:14, October 9, 2009 (UTC)
- Fixed. It's canon via one of the Essential Guides, I remember reading about it. Atarumaster88
- Whoops, I missed seeing this objection earlier. I've acquired the source and will update the article later today. Atarumaster88
- http://objection.ytmnd.com
- Based on
new information on boards.theforce.net (backup link not verified!) from The Forgotten War: The Nagai and the Tofs, and also from
its endnotes on www.myuselessknowledge.com (backup link not verified!), SOTE: Evolution is now placed before Issue 107 of Marvel and the end of the Nagai-Tof War. The relevant sections in "Biography" should be reshuffled accordingly. It might seem confusing, but check out Havac's workbench to see a great example of how he did it with Wedge. Menkooroo 05:07, December 11, 2009 (UTC) - On that note, the 'The Forgotten War' article should be mined for potential new info, as well. Menkooroo 06:36, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
- There's not a single mention of Jorj Car'das. Statements made by Mara to Luke in Vision of the Future heavily imply, if not outright state, that she and Lando spent a lot of the time between 7 ABE and 12 ABE searching for Car'das and eventually tracking him to Exocron, where they also help Crev Bombaasa out of a tight spot. I believe that Mara also tells Corran in I, Jedi that she and Lando are tracking Car'das. The only hint towards this in the article is a brief sentence at the end of the 'Mara Jade' section of 'Relationships', when really, it's important enough to be covered in detail in his biography, and even to be mentioned in the article's intro.
- Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe there's a scene at the end of Specter of the Past where Lando is present at the Solo's apartment at the point when Karrde and Shada pay them a visit; Lando convinces a reluctant Karrde to go to Exocron and see if Car'das has a copy of the Caamas Document. This should be mentioned in the biography. Menkooroo 12:36, December 16, 2009 (UTC)
- Based on
Comments
- Not a formal objection, but there's space for a lot more quotes in the article. Yrfeloran 04:13, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
- Who portrayed Lando in Dark Forces: Soldier for the Empire audio drama? Mauser 13:48, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- I'm voting for it!!!!!!!!
Will give a full Outcast update as soon as I can. I'll busy through the weekend and Monday, though, but next week, I hope to get that and some more of the sourcebooks done.Atarumaster88(Talk page) 20:06, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
- I apologize for the confusion, but when I voted months ago it wasn't because I had read it; it was just because I wanted to see it featured. If I do review it, I'll vote, but not for now. CC7567 (talk) 18:16, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- Happy (slightly belated) one-year anniversary of nomination! jSarek 09:15, November 23, 2009 (UTC)
- In the style of your mention of That 70's Show, I strongly recommend adding a note to BTS about Billy Dee's guest appearance on Season 5 of Scrubs. In "Her Story II(S05E10)", he appears as the godfather of Mandy Moore's character, and Donald Faison's character, Turk, keeps calling him Lando; Billy keeps correcting him and saying "Billy Dee!" The clip is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BXEvmWbeC8 . It might be too much of a tangent, but it might be worth noting that Donald Faison is a huuuuuge SW and in particular Lando fan ---
The Official SW Blog on starwarsblog.starwars.com (backup link not verified!) confirms that; Faison has also made a
stop-motion video on starwarsblog.starwars.com (backup link not verified!) of the chronicles of young Lando, a hypothetical TV series he's invented where he plays a young Lando. Menkooroo 04:49, December 11, 2009 (UTC)