Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Heinz Darthenshmirtz

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Heinz Darthenshmirtz

• Nominated by: - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 04:07, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
• Nomination comments:
  "What are you supposed to be, some kind of Wookieepedia editor?"
  *puts on hat*
  "PERRY THE WOOKIEEPEDIA EDITOR?!"
• Date Archived: 22:07, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
• Final word count: 2102 words (154 introduction, 1651 body, 297 behind the scenes)
• Word count at nomination time: 2081 words (137 introduction, 1743 body, 201 behind the scenes)
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Support

1. Funnily enough re: below didn't really have anything else to fix after that so…ta-da, free vote.—spookywilloww^talk 01:22, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
2. This nom was unexpected…and by unexpected I mean COMPLETELY EXPECTED!! Panther436 (talk) 18:56, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
3. Lewisr (talk) 05:22, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
4. Ayrehead02 (talk) 16:56, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
5. Sanathestarr (talk) 19:43, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
6. Booply (talk) 20:17, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
7. CometSmudge (talk) 21:58, 7 September 2024 (UTC)

Object

ThrawnChiss

• Appearances stated that he first appeared in Agent P; this is not mentioned in the bts. ThrawnChiss7 ^{Assembly Cupola} 13:23, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
  • Added. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 15:39, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
• Star Wars Year By Year: A Visual History, New Edition mentions him, and most likely the 2016 edition. ThrawnChiss7 ^{Assembly Cupola} 12:22, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
  • Added to sources list. No new info. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 19:30, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

CC-8

• Rogue One's full release date can't be sourced to the film itself, but also only the year is necessary, and that can be sourced to the film. Commander Code-8 ^{Hello There!} 03:13, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
  • Changed. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 17:48, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

Panther

• (Review note) Always happy to see PnF noms!
• Think him implementing the Anti-Magnet-Antennae V2.0 on the Normtrooper-inator should be included
  • Added. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 20:54, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
    • With this I think it can be mentioned in the history section that he disabled Perry's wrist magnet Panther436 (talk) 01:32, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
      • Added. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 22:09, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
• Rather than Darthenshmirtz warning Perry about the Sith inator, I think the context should be expanded to clarify that Perry confronted Darthenshmirtz about his new project, but he refused to admit to it or reveal it until Perry defeated him
  • Revised. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 21:51, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
• Don't think both of those images fit in the second section, suggest removing one
  • Moved the Vader one to the P&T. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 21:51, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
• I know what you mean but "the Force surrounds and binds everything" isn't actually a metaphor, bit at the end of paragraph 3 should be reworded
  • Changed from "metaphor" to "saying." - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 21:51, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
• Final bio section should be split or resectioned, we try to keep sections to 2-3 paragraphs
  • Split into new section. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 21:51, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
• If that quote is going to lead the P&t I think it should maybe include some commentary on Darthenshmirtz's cockiness or something akin to that, potentially including when he taunted Perry with the "I'd like to see you try that again" during their fight
  • Added. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 21:51, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
• The Sith-inator, Normtrooper-inator, Doof Star, and the Darthenshmirtz Sith Inc. should all be mentioned in the Equipment section
  • Added. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 21:51, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
• Bts stuff:
  • There are some cut story elements relating to Darthenshmirtz that I'd like to see included, see the bts for Perry (Platypus)
    • Do you have a source for these so I can check for them? - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 21:51, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
      • Yes! Can find it here, here, and here Panther436 (talk) 00:06, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
        • Added. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 21:35, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
  • I feel like the story of the design for Darthenshmirtz coming from a doodle Povenmire did when Disney bought Lucasfilm that spawned the whole special etc. etc. should be included at least briefly as well. Would make a fun bts image too. I believe Povenmire tweeted about it but I know he told the whole story on TikTok as well. Panther436 (talk) 01:03, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
    • I'll see if I can find the tweet or another source, but if you have it on hand please let me know. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 21:51, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
      • There's a short tweet here and the TikTok story here Panther436 (talk) 00:08, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
        • Added. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 21:35, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
  • With all this stuff I think you could put one of Povenmire's tidbits as a Bts quote Panther436 (talk) 02:55, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
    • Added. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 21:35, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
  • Phineas and Ferb and a lot of its characters have wikipedia pages, which I think would be better to link to over the PnF wiki pages Panther436 (talk) 01:32, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
    • I'm not sure when it was added, but the Wikipedia page for Doof appears to already be listed above the P&F wiki links for both Doof and Darth. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 22:12, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
      • I meant for the Wikipedia pages to be pipelinked in the Bts, I just went ahead and changed this Panther436 (talk) 18:56, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
• The Equipment section could use a quote, suggest maybe the "what idiot would design that with a self-destruct button" line or the flashlight line or whatever you think fits Panther436 (talk) 02:55, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
  • Added. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 20:54, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
• The intro makes it seem like Doof deliberately turned Ferb into a Sith, and I think that bit should focus more on the end goal of the sith-inator being to turn Doof into a Sith.
  • Rephrased to make it clear Ferb was accidental and made it more clear him becoming a Sith was his actual goal. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 21:48, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
    • I didn't know to to explain this so I copy-edited it more, feel free to adjust to your liking Panther436 (talk) 18:56, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
• The sentence about him rehearsing the musical number at the beginning of the bio seems a little overkill, I think you can just call the performance "rehearsed" when you bring it up later on.
  • There is precedent to mention things earlier in the bio section if they are stated to have happened at some point rather than simply alongside their mention. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 20:53, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
    • Right, which makes sense for things like him buying the condo on Alderaan. But when you can just say "Darthenshmirtz performed a *rehearsed* musical number" the extra sentence becomes distracting and unnecessarily detailed, especially when we have no real frame of reference for when this rehearsal happened and that extra sentence could be at the wrong place in the history section chronologically. Panther436 (talk) 14:59, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
      • Fair enough, adjusted. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 21:48, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
• This sort of goes along with the above objection, but I think the article, mainly the history section, is too play-by-play. I struggle a lot with this too, but it's is primarily because there are a lot of instances of dialogue being directly recounted and every step of an overall action being detailed. I think some of it can be condensed and made into more of a summary, although the overall info that's there already can remain. I can elaborate more if you'd like, I know this isn't the easiest to address. Panther436 (talk) 01:32, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
  • Altered with respect to revisions made by User:Spookywilloww (thanks!) - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 00:03, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
    • Great work with this! Panther436 (talk) 18:56, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

spookly

• Unless substantiated by a SW creator or other OOU source, the Rogue One section violates the site stance on original research (ie synthesis of comparisons drawn).
  • Removed; don't actually recall who added it but it wasn't me. I didn't realize it counted as original research, though. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 01:02, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
• The {{1stm}} (the sw.com article) isn't documented in the BtS.
  • Fixed. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 01:02, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
• I'm also not seeing a clear line stating that Phineas and Ferb: Star Wars was where his last name was revealed (which should also be clarified by further noting that he was only named by last name in Agent P: Rebel Spy, which can be done in a variety of ways, as is usually done with characters that have it revealed in steps.—spookywilloww^talk 00:41, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
  • So it was a bit wonkier even; his last name was revealed in Rebel Spy first, and his first name was revealed in the special. But even weirder, before either of these the SW.com article referred to him as "Darth Enshmirtz." Irregardless, the BTS section has been revised to account for this. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 01:02, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Featured article by Inquisitorius 22:06, 7 September 2024 (UTC)