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Contents

  • 1 Haveland
    • 1.1 (3 Inqs/4 Users/7 Total)
      • 1.1.1 Support
      • 1.1.2 Object
        • 1.1.2.1 Governor Fanland
        • 1.1.2.2 Dionne
        • 1.1.2.3 Brahaveland
        • 1.1.2.4 CC-8
        • 1.1.2.5 OOM
      • 1.1.3 Comments

Haveland

  • Nominated by: UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 16:06, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Nice Legends pull by Zahn
  • WookieeProject (optional): WP:AMB, WP:NOVELS

(3 Inqs/4 Users/7 Total)

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Support

  1. A nice read. — Samonic ChissAscendancyCanonSymbol 17:49, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
  2. Lovely work, Shay. Braha'tok enthusiast Hello there 15:24, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
  3. Inqvote Assuming OOM's objections will be addressed Commander Code-8 Hello There! 09:03, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
  4. Inqvote OOM 224 09:47, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
  5. Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 11:37, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
  6. AmazinglyCool CIS roundel (talk) 11:51, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
  7. Inqvote MasterFredCommerce Guild(talk) (he/him) 01:33, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

Object

Governor Fanland
  • "For three years, she and her forces faced great trouble in dealing with grallocs, a cousin species to mynock creatures, in the sector, and gleaned information about them." The final part of this sentence, about gleaning information, feels awkward. The word choice of "gleaning" in particular feels odd-in my expeireince gleaning tends to be more used for research rather than knowledge gained through experience.
    • Reworded. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 12:39, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
  • "She later tasked the Imperial forces at the Kurost transfer point with a dozen insurgency-suppression missions across the Esaga sector, leaving the transfer point defenseless against Grysk Hegemony forces." What's the point of mentioning the Grysk here? This is their only mention in the whole article. IIRC they were involved in the book, but there's no context as to why the transfer point would be defenseless against them specifically.
    • Removed that part since no direct connection between Haveland and the Grysk is actually made. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 12:39, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
      • It still says it's defenseless-is there relevance in this? Fan26 (Talk) 18:40, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
        • The fact that the characters in the novel specifically point it out as a result of her actions? I'd say so. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 03:34, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
  • I think it would be good to provide the context that Assitant Director Ronan was a subordinate of Krennic's. Fan26 (Talk) 18:17, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
    • Used the book's term. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 12:39, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
Dionne
  • "The evidence was instead provided to Thrawn, who had initially suspected Haveland as the perpetrator, and the Seventh Fleet, before being sent to Savit's Third Fleet and exposing him as a traitor in the Empire." I'm not sure I understand what is going on in this sentence of the intro. Maybe little more context is needed.--Dionne Jinn (talk) 17:47, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
    • Done. Let me know if it reads better. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 14:52, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
      • A little better, but still a bit confusing. Maybe try and split it to two different sentences? There was some time difference between Vanto and the Death Troopers bringing the info to Thrawn, and then Faro delivering it to the Third Fleet, so for me it doesn't make sense to have the two events crammed into one sentence.--Dionne Jinn (talk) 19:23, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
        • Split it per your suggestion. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 06:18, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
  • Any particular reason why Brierly Ronan and Dayja Collerand are not linked (and maybe even named?) when they are mentioned as individuals captured on Brylan Ross?--Dionne Jinn (talk) 18:33, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
    • They are though? UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 02:33, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
      • Oh, shavit! Apparently my objection is missing a critical bit: in the intro. They are later named and linked in the article, but I meant to say, they are not linked in the intro. My bad on that.--Dionne Jinn (talk) 04:38, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
        • Done. Thanks. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 03:57, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
Brahaveland
  • Does the novel capitalise moff? It would be more consistent with other novels to have it lower case (see here). Braha'tok enthusiast Hello there 18:27, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
    • Only capitalized when followed by a name, so I've fixed the other instances. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 03:19, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
  • You might wanna check which Seventh Fleet you've linked to :P Braha'tok enthusiast Hello there 15:11, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
    • Thanks. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 16:40, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
      • No worries! Braha'tok enthusiast Hello there 14:27, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
CC-8
  • The second sentence of the second body paragraph could be broken up.
    • Are you referring to this? "There, the cargo, consisting of valuable components such as point-defense turbolaser batteries, was switched out with lower-level components." This already looks pretty short enough to me. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 11:29, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
    • Oops, meant to write third sentence Commander Code-8 Hello There! 07:19, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
      • Done. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 09:37, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
  • The intro says that the individuals aboard the Brylan Ross had the evidence against Savit, while the body just says that the evidence was found aboard the ship. Also is there any description of what the evidence actually is? Commander Code-8 Hello There! 10:19, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
    • Reworded. There is a pretty long and complex explanation, but I don't think that's relevant to this article. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 11:29, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
OOM
  • Made a copy-edit, especially for "Prisoner problem" since I was confused as to which Grand Admiral it was referring to at various points.
    • Looks good, thanks. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 09:29, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
  • "Meanwhile, on the planet Aloxor within the Esaga sector, Imperial Captain Lochry's Star Destroyer, Stormbird, captured the freighter Brylan Ross, with Imperial Security Bureau agent Dayja Collerand and Assistant Director Brierly Ronan, one of Krennic's senior associates, on board." — it would help to clarify which one is the senior associate here.
    • Switched places. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 09:29, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
  • "before being changed to "Haveland" within the same feature in the subsequent issue in February 1996, also written by Sudlow. The latter spelling was carried over to 2008's The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia." — given that "Haveland" is treated as the correct spelling, I believe it's okay to remove the CSWE sentence and just say the name was "corrected" rather than simply "changed" in the preceding sentence. OOM 224 14:47, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
    • I wanted to introduce another source there to affirm that that is the spelling the writers stuck with. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 09:29, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
      • Fair enough OOM 224 09:42, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
  • There's just enough room for an extra image under "Prisoner problem," btw, but I understand if you don't want to add one. OOM 224 14:48, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
    • Any suggestions? I couldn't think of anything relevant. Aside from Thrawn, Faro and the 7th Fleet are the only subjects there with visual depictions, and they aren't directly relevant to Haveland. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 09:29, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
      • Resolved via Discord OOM 224 09:47, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
  • Also, if we're going to suggest that the Canon Haveland was inspired by the Legends one, I believe it's also worth mentioning that the Legends Haveland was a male instead. OOM 224 15:05, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
    • Done. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 09:29, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Featured article by Inquisitorius 01:33, 9 June 2022 (UTC)