Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/First Battle of Ruusan

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First Battle of Ruusan

(5 Inqs/0 Users/5 Total)

Support

  1. Inqvote Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 03:32, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
  2. Inqvote Graestan(Talk) 17:43, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
  3. Inqvote Thefourdotelipsis 02:44, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
  4. Inqvote Cull Tremayne 03:44, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
  5. Inqvote -- Darth Culator (Talk) 15:30, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Object

  1. It's not sourced. I also suspect it's been mentioned in other sources like the NEC. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 12:08, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
    • Addressed, I believe. Thanks for looking, and if there are more, please advise.—Tommy9281 Red lightsaber (Peace is a lie) 00:31, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
  2. "The First Battle of Ruusan was written and conceived by author Drew Karpyshyn" - is absolute rubbish. It was first conceived as the background for the Dark Forces game, and first described in the Dark Forces novella. Please expand and amend the BtS. QuentinGeorge 12:28, 16 September 2008 (UTC) Objection(s) overridden by Inquisitorius 21:28, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
    • Since you are privy to that information and I am not, care to rectify? It would be greatly appreciated.—Tommy9281 Red lightsaber (Peace is a lie) 13:04, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
      • Addressed the "absolute rubbish", I believe. If more is required, please advise, thanks.—Tommy9281 Red lightsaber (Peace is a lie) 00:31, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
        • A month has passed since the objector left his opinion, and the issue since has been addressed/rectified. I am requesting it be removed or stricken, in light of their failure to do so. Please advise, thanks.—Tommy9281 Red lightsaber (Peace is a lie) 21:57, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
          • The BtS has been amended, but have you searched the new sources for extra info? Surely there's some. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 22:34, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
            • Unless I am misunderstanding (which is possible), that has no relevance to QuentinGeorge's objection. If your statement is from a discrepancy with the article, please leave it in the form of an objection, and I will address it separately/as well. As far as the objection in question goes, it has been fixed, and the objector has virtually abandoned it after a request on my part to review. Please advise whether it can be Inqremoved or not, thank you.—Tommy9281 Red lightsaber (Peace is a lie) 22:51, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
              • I know it's not directly related to QG's objection - note the first part of my comment. If you're so reluctant to put in some work to potentially improve the article regardless of how relevant the comment is to anything, and only address things that are direct objections. . .well, that's your prerogative. About the Inqvote, it's general precedent that the Inq starts a remove vote on its own initiative or by personal request, I believe. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 22:59, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
                • The mention of First Ruusan was so vaguely alluded to in the Dark Forces novella that it would be impossible to add any information, because there would be none to add. It is not specifically mentioned at all, rather being part of a general (and very short) statement made about the Ruusan Campaign. The article reflects this already.—Tommy9281Red lightsaber (Peace is a lie) 13:54, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
                  • In that case, I'm a little unsure how it can have first appeared if it wasn't actually mentioned. If it's just the Campaign that's mentioned or later battles then it should be removed from the appearances list and the BtS clarified that the Campaign was established by Deitz and the actual first battle itself first came in SWDBPODANOTOR. If this isn't the case it needs clarification anyway because I'm confused about it. If you could provide the quote from Jedi Knight here that'd be great. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 17:49, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
                    • Okay. I've amended the BtS as suggested, and I've fixed the appearances discrepancy. So this should be all good now, and if not, please advise. —Tommy9281Red lightsaber (Peace is a lie) 15:10, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
                      • All sorted. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 15:28, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
                        • Great, and thank you for your assistance, Ackbar. I am now requesting that the abandoned objection be stricken, as it has been successfully been addressed at this point.—Tommy9281Red lightsaber (Peace is a lie) 15:47, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
  3. From the desk of Atarumaster88
    • "should Kaan manage to emerge victorious," Victorious overall, or victorious at Ruusan?
    • Contextify the Army of Light.
      • Addressed (added a word).
    • Contextify Hoth and the other Jedi Master in BtS.
      • Addressed.
    • Correct me if I'm wrong, but Rule of Two isn't the first Karpyshyn novel, right?
      • LOL addressed.
    • A supporting picture or two would be nice. Not a hard and fast objection.
      • Addressed.
    • Please make sure that other Sith casualties aren't mentioned. This is not a hard and fast objection.
      • Sorry, but I don't understand. Please advise, thanks. Addressed now via IRC.—Tommy9281 Red lightsaber (Peace is a lie) 03:20, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
    • I cleaned up a decent amount of the prose; the writing style was a bit stilted before, pushing on the lines of flowery. Have a Super Terrific Friendly Un-frustrating day. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 01:37, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
  4. From Graestan the Cruel:
    • No general quotes about the war itself to be gleaned from Path of Destruction?
      • None, sorry, and believe me, I looked.
        • So, no one in the book says anything about the war and its progress? Graestan(Talk) 23:14, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
          • Sure they do, but nothing that even remotely relates to this specific battle. It would be like taking the opening GSW article quote and using it for say, Foerost. The only thing I could think to do is use the quote from Jedi Knight, where Hoth talks about the Sith losing all but two of the Ruusan battles (which is still rather vague). Please let me know what you think.—Tommy9281Red lightsaber (Peace is a lie) 14:11, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
            • I'm not looking for a lead quote, just something about the war from the novel for the "Prelude" section. Don't Des's acquaintances talk about it, or the Republic officers, or anyone? Graestan(Talk) 00:41, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
              • They talk about the Jedi & Sith, and the talk is of the war in general, all very broad. It just won't work. If there is a quote you have in mind, please feel free to add it; I'm quite exhausted with trying to force one. Otherwise, I respectfully ask you to reconsider your position. Thank you. I found two. See if you like those. —Tommy9281Red lightsaber (Peace is a lie) 04:24, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
    • "When a much smaller fleet of Sith warships" – Much smaller than what, precisely? Please specify.
      • Addressed.
    • I may know what "puissance" means, but likely less than a tenth of our readers do. Please find a suitable alternative.
      • Lol addressed.
    • "the latest resurrection" – This needs some sort of reference point.
      • Addressed, I believe.
    • "Considering the number of Republic vessels in Ruusan's orbit, Kaan decided to lead the strike himself from his personal command ship, Nightfall." – A little more explanation is necessary.
      • Addressed, I believe.
    • Not so sure "debuted in battle" seems like appropriate phrasing.
      • Addressed.
    • The exchange between Kopecz and the Selkath is a bit stilted. Please reword in a more flowing fashion.
      • Addressed.
    • The introduction of the Army of Light at the end needs some context, and the outcome of the war should be mentioned.
      • Addressed, I believe. Thanks for the review Grae. If these still aren't good, please let me know.—Tommy9281Red lightsaber (Peace is a lie) 06:20, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
    • Graestan(Talk) 03:26, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Vote to strike QuentinGeorge's objection (Inquisitorius only)

  1. Inqvote -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 15:49, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
  2. Inqvote Seems to be fixed now. Green Tentacle (Talk) 17:11, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
  3. Inqvote Per GT. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 21:24, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
  4. Inqvote Chack Jadson (Talk) 19:51, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
  5. Inqvote Graestan(Talk) 21:28, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Featured article by Inquisitorius 15:31, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

  • First of many, from the Anvil & Xadún. Be wary of what is to come.—Tommy9281 Red lightsaber (Peace is a lie) 10:56, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Something in the "Appearances" section puzzles me, in that Jedi vs. Sith is listed as an appearance, while Path of Destruction is listed as the first appearance, which is kinda impossible. Also, I can't quite remember it actually appearing in JvS, but I could be wrong. Thefourdotelipsis 02:37, 9 November 2008 (UTC)