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Firmus Nantz

(3 Inqs/4 Users/7 Total)

Support

  1. Plagueis327 (talk) 18:52, July 18, 2012 (UTC)
  2. Inqvote Control the FAN page and you control any area of the Wook you can imagine. Unfortunately, you cannot control the FAN page. Menkooroo (talk) 22:31, August 8, 2012 (UTC)
  3. Always nice to see characters being retconned to be originally unnamed separate characters. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 16:01, August 10, 2012 (UTC)
  4. Inqvote IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 21:40, August 30, 2012 (UTC)
  5. The dashes in the intro sentence seem a little awkward to me, and I fixed some battle disambiguation links, but well done. Cade Calrayn GalacticRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit
  6. Inqvote Following IRC review. (Makes me nostalgic to be able say that.) CC7567 (talk) 19:42, October 2, 2012 (UTC)
  7. Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 12:19, October 4, 2012 (UTC)

Object

Firm us good
  • If I'm interpreting Carlos Meglia's art style correctly --- he has black eyebrows? Maybe worth a note with the hair colour bit at the beginning of P&T.
    • Eh, thought it was artistic choice, but added.
  • The Combined Defense Forces of the New Republic aren't actually mentioned in the bio outside of a pipelink that just reads "New Republic," but they get an explicit intro shoutout as "New Republic Defense Force" in the intro. Can you namedrop them in the bio?
    • Done.
  • The intro names him as a fleet commander. Would Fleet Commander be an appropriate link? On a similar note, the biography doesn't use the word "commander" in relation to Nantz; could you add it somewhere for consistency with the intro?
    • Not sure. "Fleet Commander" appears to be a specific position, while Nantz is the commander of a fleet. Possible technical distinction, perhaps?
      • Sounds fair. Second half of objection still remains, though; intro calls him a commander right away but the body doesn't bring it up til P&T.
        • Scratch that; just realized the bio says he was "given command of the first fleet." Menkooroo (talk) 17:29, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
  • Before I give a full review, can you go through the entire article with an eye for linking? After reading the first paragraph, I noticed that New Republic, Galactic Empire, Galactic Civil War, and Alliance Fleet were some major missing links in the bio.
    • Bah. Left over from an earlier revision which had a large beginning. Should be fixed.
  • {{WebCite}}: While we don't have a policy requiring it, can you use it for the external links? One of them is a forum post, and cite_web is the perfect template for citing forum posts, due to its author & date parameters. If you want to give using the archive parameters a whirl, check out here for an example. Menkooroo (talk) 05:49, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
    • And where I am not using {{WebCite}}? Refs 9, 10 & 11 are all external links and are all formatted to use the template? The only link to a thread is in the BTS and it's a pipelink so should not need a cite web template since its an in-line link. - Cavalier OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 08:14, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
      • Whoops, didn't realize that Refs 9, 10, and 11 were actually using it. Without more parameters used they look like regular single-square-bracket links, but I should have checked the coding. Can you throw in a few more parameters and take full advantage of the template? |work and |accessdate are big ones, as are |date and |author for the forum post. Consider using the archive parameters linked above, too, which'll potentially save you some trouble in the future. Menkooroo (talk) 16:30, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
        • Done in good faith. Archive links do not apply since as far as I know, no archive has been created of them. - Cavalier OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 18:13, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
  • Is the battle of Abraxas before the Mission to Radix? The bio mentions it first but doesn't mention its outcome until after the Radix stuff. Fry muses here that Abraxas is probably after Radix, FWIW.
    • I've left it intentionally vague but seemingly logical since the order isn't clear. While Fry does muse that it happens after, its not canonically clear.
  • Can ref [3] mention where Lucasfilm Licensing's guide to publising eras can be found?
    • Added to reference, but included the full template as it links to archives correctly.
  • "During the battle, a fleet of EF76 Nebulon-B escort frigates, supported by Y-wing bombers, destroyed the Thalassa, a Praetor Mark II-class battlecruiser." Can you establish which ships belong to who? It's not entirely clear who benefits from that sentence, or who ultimately wins the battle.
    • Specified that the frigates were NR. The previous line establishing the battle against Delvardus should be enough context for Thalassa while not repeating info.
  • Is the Western Reaches campaign worth an article? It's mentioned in the intro, too.
    • Another technical naming difference I feel. It's a campaign in the Western Reaches, but I don't think its specifically named as the "Western Reaches campaign" unlike other campaigns mentioned in Warfare. The Hevvrol Sector Campaign is part of the campaign, indicating it may just be a conglomeration of campaigns rather than one single one. I have no objection to creating an article, mind, I just don't want to create an incorrect one.
      • Whatever the conjectural name ends up being... do you think it is a distinct enough event to get an article? I'll trust your judgement on it and won't object if you say no.
        • With my mind wavering on the issue, I'm going to say no for now. If I waver on something like this, I usually err on the side of caution. I, of course, retain the right to change my mind at any time.
  • Ref [2] appears twice in succession in the bio's fourth paragraph --- I'd sofixit but I just want to make sure that "Entering Herglic Space" shouldn't actually be sourced to something else.
    • Removed. Left over from previous revision.
  • Can you mention and link Duskhan League somewhere?
    • I see no reason to. Nantz is only very peripherally connected to the Black Fleet Crisis, and adding more info to explain the term would be a little superfluous in my opinion.
      • I don't think any new info needs to be added; the article attributes several actions to the Yevetha, but attributing them to the Duskhan League would be more accurate and specific. Like saying Chiss Ascendancy instead of just Chiss.
        • Slipped in something unobtrusively, hopefully.
  • Also here, Jason mentions that the previously unidentified commander from Lando's Commandos "even looks a bit like I'd imagined Nantz." Worth a BTS mention?
    • Added.
      • Should have thought of this before --- could Fry's musings be the leading quote of the BTS? Menkooroo (talk) 21:05, August 8, 2012 (UTC)
  • Lando's Commandos and Leland Chee should get some context in the BTS. And... done! Menkooroo (talk) 04:56, August 8, 2012 (UTC)
Exiled Jedi
  • Is TIE Pirates a given name for the group? If not, I think you should leave pirates uncapitalized.--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 01:20, October 4, 2012 (UTC)
    • Eliminated reference to TIE Pirates, replaced with "pirates" or "Eiattu pirates". - Cavalier OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 09:15, October 4, 2012 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Featured article by Inquisitorius 13:52, October 4, 2012 (UTC)