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Carth Onasi
Support
- Sarendipity Talk File:Atrissig.jpg 04:37, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
- In spite of the shoddy infobox pic. .... 11:10, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
- Looks good. -Solus (Bird of Prey) 14:01, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
- Atarumaster88
(Audience Chamber) 16:06, 26 March 2007 (UTC) - --Shaelas(Ahto City)
00:32, 27 March 2007 (UTC) - Green Tentacle (Talk) 09:27, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
- SkywalkerPL 12:35, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
- I find Carth to be the light side smart ass of the group. - Raan 13:56, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
- Dorks on the front page!!! KEJ 08:33, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Oppose
Choppy prose: "Carth was born on Telos IV. He had a wife, Morgana, and son named Dustil. He served in the planetary militia and later in the Republic Navy. His first posting was in an orbital watchstation over Serocco."--
21:08, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
- I did a general copyedit. Does this address your objection? -Solus (Bird of Prey) 23:53, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, but I still think a few sections could use improvement. I'll go over it tomorrow. -- 21:54, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, but I still think a few sections could use improvement. I'll go over it tomorrow. --
- I did a general copyedit. Does this address your objection? -Solus (Bird of Prey) 23:53, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
Needs a longer introduction.-- 21:54, 29 March 2007 (UTC)I'd like to see this article reference specific conversations or events in KOTOR I and II.— 19:20, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
- As I've said elsewhere, I find this new "rule" to be somewhat absurd. It's not required that novels reference chapters or pages, is it? When did this suddenly become an issue? I haven't seen any discussion for making this a policy, and only a couple weeks ago Ebon Hawk made it to FA without this kind of referencing even coming up. It looks ridiculous - look at the bottom of Atton Rand, all that referencing for just a couple of sources. I'm not trying to be difficult, I just strongly object to this. -Sarendipity Talk File:Atrissig.jpg 06:58, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
- It's not a rule, and it certainly isn't policy. I'm just suggesting you do this to make the article as good as possible. -- 12:49, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
- Well, if leaving it out keeps the article from getting approved, that sounds like policy to me. And after skimming the last Inq meeting log, that appeared to be the case. -Sarendipity Talk File:Atrissig.jpg 18:10, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
- Look, I'll 'fully source' the thing, just let me try and get my brother-who-has-a-near-perfect-memory-concerning-KOTOR-stuff in the mood. That may take a few hours, so don't get your hopes up. -Solus (Bird of Prey) 21:06, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
- I've sourced it, but I cannot find the source of these three so-called facts:
- While a name for Carth's deceased wife is not in the game files, David Gaider, BioWare's writer for the character, gave her name as "Morgana."
- Carth originally had alternate lines for his devastation in finding out who Revan is if the player is female and has romanced Carth up to that point.
- If the player has both romanced Carth and turned to the dark side, then the player will have the option of killing Carth herself or have Bastila finish it. In a cut-scene that didn't make it to the final game, Revan had a third option to kill Bastila and die aboard the Star Forge with Carth. It was not placed in the final version because the developers did not have enough time for finishing the game.
- I've sourced it, but I cannot find the source of these three so-called facts:
- Look, I'll 'fully source' the thing, just let me try and get my brother-who-has-a-near-perfect-memory-concerning-KOTOR-stuff in the mood. That may take a few hours, so don't get your hopes up. -Solus (Bird of Prey) 21:06, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
- Well, if leaving it out keeps the article from getting approved, that sounds like policy to me. And after skimming the last Inq meeting log, that appeared to be the case. -Sarendipity Talk File:Atrissig.jpg 18:10, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
- It's not a rule, and it certainly isn't policy. I'm just suggesting you do this to make the article as good as possible. --
- As I've said elsewhere, I find this new "rule" to be somewhat absurd. It's not required that novels reference chapters or pages, is it? When did this suddenly become an issue? I haven't seen any discussion for making this a policy, and only a couple weeks ago Ebon Hawk made it to FA without this kind of referencing even coming up. It looks ridiculous - look at the bottom of Atton Rand, all that referencing for just a couple of sources. I'm not trying to be difficult, I just strongly object to this. -Sarendipity Talk File:Atrissig.jpg 06:58, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Any help would be appreciated. -Solus (Bird of Prey) 00:22, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
- I talked to Redemption in IRC, and he said the last two are found in dlg files (dialog files). The first one was mentioned on the BioWare forums according to him. He's a pretty good resource on all KotOR related questions, and he said he's willing to help with any future issues. Atarumaster88 (Audience Chamber) 22:36, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you. Will get to it. -Solus (Bird of Prey) 00:35, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
Needs sourcing for {{fact}} tags in BtS.- Lord Hydronium 01:59, 5 April 2007 (UTC)- Addressed, many thanks to Redemption. -Solus (Bird of Prey) 00:40, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
Per Hydronium. .... 22:57, 8 April 2007 (UTC)- Addressed per above. -Solus (Bird of Prey) 00:40, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
Remove the bullets in the BtS - looks unprofessional. Just use sentences and clean paragraphs. Additionally, there's a redlink - but I think it might be a mispelling.QuentinGeorge 06:51, 10 April 2007 (UTC)- Written as prose and the redlink has been cleared up. -Solus (Bird of Prey) 17:27, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Factual error in introduction: "He served in the Mandalorian Wars with the nickname "Fleet"." "Fleet" is obviously a nickname for Navy soldiers in general. Notice how he calls the other fellow "Army."--Imp 18:33, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- I did not have the comic, so I was not aware of that. This error has been fixed.-Solus (Bird of Prey) 18:50, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Comments
Approved by Inquisitorius - Wookieepedia:Inq/Carth Onasi 06:20, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
- Changed the infobox pic to show the background. Better? Sarendipity Talk File:Atrissig.jpg 18:20, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
- I think he meant as in it's not a head shot/portrait. But the alternative is either game screenshot or Carth with a lazy eye. Take your pick. --Redemption
Talk 20:24, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
- At any rate, a shorter pic will be needed for the FA template. .... 21:07, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
- I think that image works best for the infobox personally, but I've also added an in-game headshot, and there's always this one for the FA template. Sarendipity Talk File:Atrissig.jpg 21:24, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
- I'll grab one later today. Like I did for Bastila's infobox image. Thankfully what I have in mind is the very first module...--RedemptionTalk 21:27, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
- I'll grab one later today. Like I did for Bastila's infobox image. Thankfully what I have in mind is the very first module...--Redemption
- I think that image works best for the infobox personally, but I've also added an in-game headshot, and there's always this one for the FA template. Sarendipity Talk File:Atrissig.jpg 21:24, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
- At any rate, a shorter pic will be needed for the FA template. .... 21:07, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
- I think he meant as in it's not a head shot/portrait. But the alternative is either game screenshot or Carth with a lazy eye. Take your pick. --Redemption
- May I inquire what now needs to be done to the article, as this nom has been stagnating for several days.-Solus (Bird of Prey) 22:32, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
- It needs to be approved by the Inq for one. Currently it has three support votes. I am reviewing the article at the moment and have made some changes to the text. I should be done shortly and that will take the Inq votes to four. I will see what I can do about getting a fifth. --Eyrezer 00:04, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you.-Solus (Bird of Prey) 00:51, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
- I asked Redemption if he could expand the article in such a way as to describe the events generally without specifying the group members. I'd like to see a little more of this, and also some quotes for individual sections would look good, and should be easy to get. --Eyrezer 05:02, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you.-Solus (Bird of Prey) 00:51, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
- It needs to be approved by the Inq for one. Currently it has three support votes. I am reviewing the article at the moment and have made some changes to the text. I should be done shortly and that will take the Inq votes to four. I will see what I can do about getting a fifth. --Eyrezer 00:04, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
