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Amaran
- Nominated by: ~Savage
16:27, September 24, 2011 (UTC) - Nomination comments: Somebody let the furries into the Star Wars! ~Savage
16:27, September 24, 2011 (UTC)
(4 Inqs/2 Users/6 Total)
Support
Fantastic, Mr. Fox. Menkooroo 14:28, October 18, 2011 (UTC)
--Eyrezer 03:23, October 31, 2011 (UTC)- Gulomi Jomesh 07:45, November 30, 2011 (UTC)
Cavalier One(Squadron channel) 10:45, January 18, 2012 (UTC)
- Nice work.—Cal Jedi
(Personal Comm Channel) 22:06, January 19, 2012 (UTC)
CC7567 (talk) 18:58, January 21, 2012 (UTC)
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Vulpine
The infobox notes that they're classified as a vulpine species, but should a note of their also-canineness be there, else make its way into the "Distinctions" field?- I'm not quite sure how to handle this, since "canine" and "vulpine" are English words, and we tend not to second-guess it when Star Wars uses English. Like, if a source calls something a "window," we don't assume that a window has some meaning other than what first comes to mind. In that reading, vulpine should be a subset of canine. That said, I've gone ahead and listed both, since at least some users seem to think that English goes out the, er, window when we're talking about biology. ;) ~Savage
14:13, October 18, 2011 (UTC)
- I'm not quite sure how to handle this, since "canine" and "vulpine" are English words, and we tend not to second-guess it when Star Wars uses English. Like, if a source calls something a "window," we don't assume that a window has some meaning other than what first comes to mind. In that reading, vulpine should be a subset of canine. That said, I've gone ahead and listed both, since at least some users seem to think that English goes out the, er, window when we're talking about biology. ;) ~Savage
The c. 21 BBY date for the Clone Wars is only for stuff related to the 3D cartoon. Sourcing something like the NEC and saying 22 BBY - 19 BBY would be better here.I don't think Lianorm Swamp is the "Gungan Swamp" of A Wildlife of Star Wars. Apparently Inside the Worlds of Star Wars Episode I states that the Lianorm Swamp is only thirty-four square miles and not the home of the Gungans, while Wildlife calls the Gungan Swamp the Gungans' home and "A huge and seemingly endless place." Can you look into this? A new article on "Gungan Swamp" might be in order.- I'm pretty sure they were intended to both be the swamps seen in Episode I, but you're right: there is canon confusion on this. I've created a new article. ~Savage
14:13, October 18, 2011 (UTC)
- I'm pretty sure they were intended to both be the swamps seen in Episode I, but you're right: there is canon confusion on this. I've created a new article. ~Savage
Do the Amarans really capture Bursas on Amar? I think Bursas are exclusively native to Naboo. It seems like you've drawn this conclusion from the Amaran CSWE entry, but looking closely at that entry, it appears that the first sentence ("An intelligent bipedal canine species from the planet Amar.") and the second sentence ("The fox- like Amaran natives captured bursa animals and bred them for export.") are independent of one another. The second sentence doesn't say where Amarans captured Bursas, and it seems a little speculative to assume Amar based on the first sentence. Wildlife indicates that "Amaran Natives (of the Gungan Swamp)" capture Bursas on Naboo, and I would guess that the CSWE entry is drawing on that info with its second sentence. Thoughts?- Well, normally, it wouldn't be speculative, I don't think. For instance, if we had a CSWE entry that said, "The Booga-Booga hail from the planet Booga. They fly about on flying creatures known as zoomzooms. Their favorite food is tripe," we wouldn't assume that each of those three sentences pertained to a different group of Booga-Booga. But in this case, I suppose there're extenuating circumstances, since we know about the bursa-Naboo connection. Take a look. ~Savage
14:13, October 18, 2011 (UTC)
- Well, normally, it wouldn't be speculative, I don't think. For instance, if we had a CSWE entry that said, "The Booga-Booga hail from the planet Booga. They fly about on flying creatures known as zoomzooms. Their favorite food is tripe," we wouldn't assume that each of those three sentences pertained to a different group of Booga-Booga. But in this case, I suppose there're extenuating circumstances, since we know about the bursa-Naboo connection. Take a look. ~Savage
- Great job! Can you grab a quote from Provonost's notes to lead "Behind the Scenes?" Menkooroo 14:33, October 16, 2011 (UTC)
- This and the other concerns should be addressed. Check it out, and thanks for the review! ~Savage
14:13, October 18, 2011 (UTC)
- This and the other concerns should be addressed. Check it out, and thanks for the review! ~Savage
Eyrezer the sleuth
You will find mention of Amarans on page 15 of Coruscant and the Core Worlds, and you will find mention of "Amara" on page 67 of Star Wars Gamer 1. Good luck! --EyrezerAnd you can find confirmation from Jason Fry that Amar and Amara are linked here and a useful note here. --Eyrezer 09:05, October 26, 2011 (UTC)- Nice sleuthing! I've integrated the information I found from those sources. Thanks! ~Savage
02:25, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
The Atlas only has Amar in its Appendix, right? That would mean it is referring to the Amar system, but not necessarily a planet by the name of Amar. CSWE names Amar as a planet, while Gamer names Amara as either a planet or a system. Is Fry's comment therefore collating Amar and Amara (planets) or the Amar system and the Amara system? --Eyrezer 04:10, October 29, 2011 (UTC)- My head just exploded. I semi-reverted, since Senator Cilghal on those forums is mistaken: their world has never been called "Amara" as far as I can tell. The earliest source to name it (according to my notes) is CSWE, so the Atlas did everything right in this case, and Wallace's comment isn't really worth mentioning in the article. Does that clear it up? ~Savage
14:51, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
Yes, head explosion is why I was turned off ever writing this article. What are you treating "Amara" as then (which by the way, you currently mention in the AitG section)? Gamer mentions Amara before CSWE mentions Amar. --Eyrezer 23:33, October 29, 2011 (UTC)- Ah, I think I may have glued my head back together enough to try to explain the confusion. What do you think? ~Savage
23:35, October 30, 2011 (UTC)
- Ah, I think I may have glued my head back together enough to try to explain the confusion. What do you think? ~Savage
- My head just exploded. I semi-reverted, since Senator Cilghal on those forums is mistaken: their world has never been called "Amara" as far as I can tell. The earliest source to name it (according to my notes) is CSWE, so the Atlas did everything right in this case, and Wallace's comment isn't really worth mentioning in the article. Does that clear it up? ~Savage
- Nice sleuthing! I've integrated the information I found from those sources. Thanks! ~Savage
Attack of the Clone
Any chance you could use {{WebCite}} for ref 17? Ideally, URLs should use Cite web if they don't have any other citation template.CC7567 (talk) 06:44, January 13, 2012 (UTC)- As I was converting the ref, it struck me that perhaps that bit should be struck completely. I mean, is it kosher to include a message from an anon because it sounds like Robin Pronovost? I could be someone else... Let me post to their blog and see if they'll claim the note, then we can keep it. Otherwise, it's a bit of BTS from before I started working on the article that should probably be ditched. ~Savage
15:02, January 13, 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah, that sounds like the prudent course of action. It probably is them, but we need to verify that instead of assuming it based on the fact that it sounds like them. CC7567 (talk) 18:46, January 13, 2012 (UTC)
- It's been over a week without a response, so I've axed the comment for now. Should they ever reply, I an always reinstate it. Thanks for the review! ~Savage
15:27, January 21, 2012 (UTC)
- It's been over a week without a response, so I've axed the comment for now. Should they ever reply, I an always reinstate it. Thanks for the review! ~Savage
- Yeah, that sounds like the prudent course of action. It probably is them, but we need to verify that instead of assuming it based on the fact that it sounds like them. CC7567 (talk) 18:46, January 13, 2012 (UTC)
- As I was converting the ref, it struck me that perhaps that bit should be struck completely. I mean, is it kosher to include a message from an anon because it sounds like Robin Pronovost? I could be someone else... Let me post to their blog and see if they'll claim the note, then we can keep it. Otherwise, it's a bit of BTS from before I started working on the article that should probably be ditched. ~Savage
Comments
Approved as a Featured article by Inquisitorius 18:58, January 21, 2012 (UTC)