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10-4TO
- Nominated by: Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 03:16, February 9, 2013 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: Figure I'd try FAing a droid.
(3 Inqs/4 Users/7 Total)
Support
- Gave it a good, thorough copy-edit. Thankfully, I had read the book recently enough to remember Bug-Eyes, so there wasn't anything that I noticed to be missing or needing to be expanded upon. Trak Nar Ramble on 08:21, February 11, 2013 (UTC)
- Somehow missed the ambiguity tag in the intro. Oh TCW. :P Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 05:10, February 18, 2013 (UTC)
IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 02:37, February 25, 2013 (UTC)- Coruscantfan (Talk) 03:12, March 7, 2013 (UTC)
Cade Calrayn 16:00, April 23, 2013 (UTC)
- Exiled Jedi
(Greetings) 19:09, April 29, 2013 (UTC)
Sir Cavalier of One(Squadron channel) 12:17, May 10, 2013 (UTC)
Object
Floyd
The reason why Vader was after Pavan needs to be mentioned in the intro.- Fixed, though it's not fully answered until Book III of the series and therefore not directly relevant to Bug-Eyes. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 21:04, February 23, 2013 (UTC)
- Fixed, though it's not fully answered until Book III of the series and therefore not directly relevant to Bug-Eyes. Atarumaster88
In the intro, the fact that Rostu told Pavan about the droid should be included.- Fixed. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 21:04, February 23, 2013 (UTC)
- As you have it now, Rostu is introduced and linked twice in the intro. IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 00:58, February 24, 2013 (UTC)
- Corrected. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 05:29, February 24, 2013 (UTC)
- Corrected. Atarumaster88
- As you have it now, Rostu is introduced and linked twice in the intro. IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 00:58, February 24, 2013 (UTC)
- Fixed. Atarumaster88
I'd rather have the droid introduced at the beginning of the bio, then jump into the context about the Purge and whatnot.- Fixed. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 21:04, February 23, 2013 (UTC)
- Fixed. Atarumaster88
A little more context on Rostu would be nice. Who was he a soldier for?- Little bit more contextified. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 21:04, February 23, 2013 (UTC)
- Little bit more contextified. Atarumaster88
Article for the laboratory?- Made a stub. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 21:04, February 23, 2013 (UTC)
- Made a stub. Atarumaster88
- Solid work. IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 01:04, February 19, 2013 (UTC)
Exiled Jedi
In the book, I thought that Rostu informed Pavan of 10-4TO before he was captured by Vader, meaning that Even Piell told him about the droid and that Vader merely used Rostu as another means of getting close to Pavan. However, it has been awhile since I read to book. The Essential Reader's Companion says that it was Piell's dying words that sent Pavan after the droid. On page 338 of the novel Rhinann explains that Even Piell said whet he thought was true and makes it sound like Vader used Rostu later.- Sorry, I've been very busy IRL last couple of weeks. I'll fix this this coming weekend or sooner if I can. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 03:36, March 20, 2013 (UTC)
- You were absolutely correct. I've fixed it, thanks. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 04:06, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
- You were absolutely correct. I've fixed it, thanks. Atarumaster88
- Sorry, I've been very busy IRL last couple of weeks. I'll fix this this coming weekend or sooner if I can. Atarumaster88
I would add a sentence to the BTS explaining the problems caused with the story due to Even Piell's death in TCW.- BTS updated. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 21:57, March 11, 2013 (UTC)
- BTS updated. Atarumaster88
- I'll give the article a full review once these objections are resolved.--Exiled Jedi
(Greetings) 18:38, March 1, 2013 (UTC)
In the intro, could you make it clear who Rhinann defected from?- Clarified as "Imperial defector." Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 15:55, April 23, 2013 (UTC)
- Clarified as "Imperial defector." Atarumaster88
In the body, I think it would be better if you clarified that Piell was dying when he gave Rostu the information. The way it is currently worded it seems that was attacked and killed at a later time.- Fixed. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 15:55, April 23, 2013 (UTC)
- Fixed. Atarumaster88
You don't mention Xizor working to become a Vigo in the body.- Added, but this isn't terribly relevant to 10-4TO. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 15:55, April 23, 2013 (UTC)
- Added, but this isn't terribly relevant to 10-4TO. Atarumaster88
In the infobox you can fill the fields related to the plating and sensor color with the informatin from the characteristics section.- Fixed. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 15:55, April 23, 2013 (UTC)
- Fixed. Atarumaster88
- That should be it, sorry it took me so long.--Exiled Jedi
(Greetings) 22:34, April 6, 2013 (UTC)
Cav
See comment below regarding Piell from The Last Jedi; basically, neutral wording has been used in the novel to describe him simply as Jax's master. The article should probably reflect this, and remove reference to Piell entirely in the bio while retain the info in the BTS.- Somewhat confused here since I haven't read The Last Jedi. Does TLJ not mention Piell by name? Is that what you're suggesting, that we ambiguously refer to "Jax's master" in the bio, while mentioning Piell in the BTS? Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 16:01, April 23, 2013 (UTC)
- That's correct. TLJ goes to great lengths to avoid mentioning Piell. Its always, "Jax's Master said" or "Jax's Master was" kinda stuff, which seems to be toeing the official LFL line. As far as I can make out from what Leland Chee has said about the situation is that Piell's actions from Coruscant Nights I are still canon, but his identity is not. So refering to Piell's involvement in the way that TLJ does would seem to be the best course of action. - Sir Cavalier of One
(Squadron channel) 17:55, April 30, 2013 (UTC)
- Fixed this also. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 17:10, May 8, 2013 (UTC)
- Fixed this also. Atarumaster88
- That's correct. TLJ goes to great lengths to avoid mentioning Piell. Its always, "Jax's Master said" or "Jax's Master was" kinda stuff, which seems to be toeing the official LFL line. As far as I can make out from what Leland Chee has said about the situation is that Piell's actions from Coruscant Nights I are still canon, but his identity is not. So refering to Piell's involvement in the way that TLJ does would seem to be the best course of action. - Sir Cavalier of One
- Somewhat confused here since I haven't read The Last Jedi. Does TLJ not mention Piell by name? Is that what you're suggesting, that we ambiguously refer to "Jax's master" in the bio, while mentioning Piell in the BTS? Atarumaster88
No mention of the Bug Eyes nickname in the bio - also, you have it formatted as Bug-Eyes in the intro, but Bug Eyes in the header quote. Which is correct?- Corrected to "Bug Eyes" in body. Included nickname in the bio, though it was already in "Characteristics." Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 16:01, April 23, 2013 (UTC)
- Corrected to "Bug Eyes" in body. Included nickname in the bio, though it was already in "Characteristics." Atarumaster88
Dhur used a secret command to reactivate I-5YQ - no mention is made of his prior deactivation.- Sir Cavalier of One(Squadron channel) 20:27, April 3, 2013 (UTC)
- Should it be mentioned? It's not specifically relevant to 10-4TO and it's not used until that moment in the novel. Where would you like to see this? I'm not seeing a place to fit this in organically into the prose. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 16:01, April 23, 2013 (UTC)
- I think so since you mention that the group is stunned by 10-4TO, which leads to the assumption I5 was stunned in the same way. If that's what happened, then its fine, but I thought droids were generally unaffected by stun blasts for organics? - Sir Cavalier of One
(Squadron channel) 17:55, April 30, 2013 (UTC)
- Clarified it. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 14:41, May 7, 2013 (UTC)
- Clarified it. Atarumaster88
- I think so since you mention that the group is stunned by 10-4TO, which leads to the assumption I5 was stunned in the same way. If that's what happened, then its fine, but I thought droids were generally unaffected by stun blasts for organics? - Sir Cavalier of One
- Should it be mentioned? It's not specifically relevant to 10-4TO and it's not used until that moment in the novel. Where would you like to see this? I'm not seeing a place to fit this in organically into the prose. Atarumaster88
Cadeth
"... was "zu woohama," an impolite Wookiee saying." - I'm assuming it's Shyriiwook? If so, I think that should be linked. CadeCalrayn 03:51, April 21, 2013 (UTC)
- That assumption is original research. The novel only uses the phrase "Wookiee," and since there are multiple Wookiee languages, I'm loathe to make that jump. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 15:57, April 23, 2013 (UTC)
- That assumption is original research. The novel only uses the phrase "Wookiee," and since there are multiple Wookiee languages, I'm loathe to make that jump. Atarumaster88
You repeat "focal point" twice in the BTS. Can you vary up the wording? CadeCalrayn 03:59, April 21, 2013 (UTC)
- Eliminated one of them. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 15:57, April 23, 2013 (UTC)
- Eliminated one of them. Atarumaster88
Comments
Approved as a Featured article by Inquisitorius 12:17, May 10, 2013 (UTC)
- Courtesy of TCW's retcons, Even Piell's death in that novel was overwritten, so I have issues with the stuff about him being in the body, though I don't know how it can be gotten rid of unfortunately. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 20:11, February 16, 2013 (UTC)
- When LFL comes up with an official retcon, I'll adjust the article accordingly. It would be well-nigh impossible to write the article without including the premise of Pavan's mission to find 10-4TO. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 02:08, February 18, 2013 (UTC)
- Were such canon elements of this nature overwritten before TCW's existence? Now I remember there has yet to be an official statement of what can still be kept as canon from that story. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 05:15, February 18, 2013 (UTC)
- Not to my knowledge. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 16:03, February 22, 2013 (UTC)
- Not to my knowledge. Atarumaster88
- Were such canon elements of this nature overwritten before TCW's existence? Now I remember there has yet to be an official statement of what can still be kept as canon from that story. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 05:15, February 18, 2013 (UTC)
- When LFL comes up with an official retcon, I'll adjust the article accordingly. It would be well-nigh impossible to write the article without including the premise of Pavan's mission to find 10-4TO. Atarumaster88
- You could probably beef up a little that BtS. Maybe adding the novel release date would be a start. A little context on the novel, etc. Stake black msg 02:41, February 25, 2013 (UTC)
- Small BTS expansion. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 17:41, March 1, 2013 (UTC)
- A small interjection, but The Last Jedi constantly refers to Piell simply as "Jax's Master" or similar wording. - Sir Cavalier of One
(Squadron channel) 20:27, April 3, 2013 (UTC)
- A small interjection, but The Last Jedi constantly refers to Piell simply as "Jax's Master" or similar wording. - Sir Cavalier of One
- Small BTS expansion. Atarumaster88