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Zugga Challenge

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  1. Good work - - -OOM 224 ༼༽{talk}༼༽ 20:49, October 21, 2020 (UTC)
  2. ECvote UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 19:17, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
  3. TK-462 (talk) 14:40, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
  4. ECvote Fan26 (Talk) 16:34, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
  5. ECvote Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:31, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

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OOM
  • The date notes can be combined into one.
    • Done.
  • "[…] the course was considered to be old." Considered by whom? - - -OOM 224 ༼༽{talk}༼༽ 13:50, October 15, 2020 (UTC)
    • Not sure who exactly, that's just what the book says. Here's the direct quote (under "Mon Gazza," in a box listing the Runners' heists): "Required outrunning a New Republic patrol through the old Zugga Challenge podrace course" LordMominutiae (talk) 14:15, October 15, 2020 (UTC)
      • Then the podrace course being old is fact, and the word "considered" shouldn't be used.
        • Removed "considered to be." I imagine I'll need to do some further re-wording, though, as it doesn't really like right, now. Would it be all right to just add "old" in before "Zugga Challenge" when referring to the heist, or do I need to explicitly mention that the course was old at that point in time? LordMominutiae (talk) 15:11, October 15, 2020 (UTC)
          • Just adding "old" in before "Zugga Challenge" would be fine.
            • Done.
  • "4 ABY and 35 ABY" could be changed to "4 and 35 ABY" for concision.
    • Done.
  • The date ref only needs to mention one event for 4 ABY; either the fall of the Empire or Jabba. Also, "Spice Runners of Kijimi" is a proper compound noun, which means no links for either spice or Kijimi.
    • Changed to just Jabba as that's arguably more relevant. Removed the other links as well.
  • The ref does not explain how the events of TROS taking place in 35 ABY means the heist on Mon Gazza took place before that year. - - -OOM 224 ༼༽{talk}༼༽ 14:26, October 15, 2020 (UTC)
    • Yeah, I'm trying to figure out how exactly to indicate that. There are parts of the book written in present tense (for instance, on Zorii Bliss's page in the book it says "She now leads the Spice Runners"), almost as if the "present" is TROS, but it's hard to say. There's no clear indication given that Zorii was a Spice Runner during the heist on Mon Gazza, either, so that can't really be used to help narrow things down. Not sure if I just need to change it to "sometime after 4 ABY," or what. LordMominutiae (talk) 15:11, October 15, 2020 (UTC)
      • Given that the heist involved the New Republic, you could just say that it took place during the New Republic Era, which was 5–34 ABY - - -OOM 224 ༼༽{talk}༼༽ 09:57, October 16, 2020 (UTC)
        • Ah yeah, that'd be easier to do. You wouldn't happen to know if the Galactic Atlas (or even another source) definitively states that the New Republic (or at least the NR era) ends in 34 ABY, would you? I'll try to look into it myself, but I'm just not sure if there are any sources that clearly state the entire New Republic collapsed when the Hosnian system was destroyed. LordMominutiae (talk) 14:56, October 16, 2020 (UTC)
          • Sorry to interject but since the Republic existed in 4 ABY, why should that year not be included? --Lewisr (talk) 00:06, October 18, 2020 (UTC)
            • Oh, right. Forgot it existed prior to the "official founding." LordMominutiae (talk) 00:25, October 18, 2020 (UTC)
          • Sort of an update—I've tried asking around elsewhere and taking a peek at some sources myself, and I've unfortunately been unable to find a source that definitively states that the NR was no more after TFA, or at least that the "New Republic era" came to an end then. I know the TLJ opening crawl says the NR was "decimated," which is echoed in other sources as well, but at this point it may be necessary to simply remove the second date and change it to just sometime during/after 4 ABY. LordMominutiae (talk) 19:18, October 21, 2020 (UTC)
        • Alright then. From what I gather, the present in the visual guide is the time of TROS, thereby placing everything detailed in past tense, including the heist on Mon Gazza, before the events of the film. A tweak to the date note to reflect this would do. - - -OOM 224 ༼༽{talk}༼༽ 19:59, October 21, 2020 (UTC)
          • The Star Wars Book says that the New Republic was destroyed by the First Order --Lewisr (talk) 20:18, October 21, 2020 (UTC)
            • Well hey, that works! Updated the reference—thanks so much, Lewisr! LordMominutiae (talk) 20:26, October 21, 2020 (UTC)
            • No worries! --Lewisr (talk) 20:28, October 21, 2020 (UTC)

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