Wookieepedia:Comprehensive article nominations/Unidentified Sith Lord (Athiss)

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The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a comprehensive article nomination that was unsuccessful. Please do not modify it.

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  • 1 Unidentified Sith Lord (Athiss)
    • 1.1 (1 ECs/2 Users/3 Total)
      • 1.1.1 Support
      • 1.1.2 Object
        • 1.1.2.1 Unidentified Commander (Code-8)
        • 1.1.2.2 Tommy
        • 1.1.2.3 Unidentified Imperators
      • 1.1.3 Comments

Unidentified Sith Lord (Athiss)

  • Nominated by: Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 01:37, May 8, 2018 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: A fun little reference

(1 ECs/2 Users/3 Total)

Support

  1. Commander Code-8 Hello There! 08:06, May 13, 2018 (UTC)
  2. ECvote Assuming Tommy's timeline issues are cleared up. Ayrehead02 (talk) 07:39, May 16, 2018 (UTC)
  3. Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 16:47, May 17, 2018 (UTC)

Object

Unidentified Commander (Code-8)
  • Could do with some links to Sith and Sith Lord in the body, maybe include 1000 BBY too
    • Links added, but 1000 BBY would not be appropriate as the reference is "milennia". Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 02:44, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
  • Needs a {{youmay}} template. Commander Code-8 Hello There! 04:35, May 8, 2018 (UTC)
    • Went with "other uses" Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 02:44, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
  • The page for Lost Knowledge says that the Sith's illusion was defeated, I don't fully understand how RPGs work in regards to canon, but if an outcome is presented I think that's relevant enough to be included on this article.
    • Yes, but again I'm not sure that would be germane as it isn't connected to the Sith Lord directly. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 15:47, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
  • in essence, the fears of the explorers. I'm not sure the meaning is clear enough, I'm interpreting it to mean it represented the explorer's fears, but I think it could be reworded to reflect whatever's most accurate.
    • Re-worded. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 15:47, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
  • The article for his tomb, which you created, says that his name was lost to history, which seems worth noting here
    • Indeed. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 15:47, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
  • Is an article for the mission to Athiss worth creating? Commander Code-8 Hello There! 12:46, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
    • I suppose. Added. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 15:47, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
Tommy
  • Article currently violates CAN rule 8. Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 16:07, May 10, 2018 (UTC)
    • Redlink was added due to above objection; it's killed now. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 03:02, May 11, 2018 (UTC)
  • Could you create a more concrete timeline? Either before 1000 BBY or over a millennium before 0 BBY. Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 10:55, May 11, 2018 (UTC)
    • Voila. Thanks! Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 15:21, May 14, 2018 (UTC)
      • Sorry but I think you misunderstood this. I meant that you should use some reference to the BBY/ABY system. So before 1000 BBY or over a millennium before 0 BBY or something along those lines. Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 17:06, May 14, 2018 (UTC)
        • Ok - so to clarify, do you mean add "1000 BBY" specifically, or "millennia prior to 0 BBY"? Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 15:18, May 16, 2018 (UTC)
          • As it's now been changed to "Millennia before the Battle of Yavin," I'd like to see it say "millennia before 0 BBY" or something similar. Sorry for any confusion. Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 15:22, May 16, 2018 (UTC)
            • OK, had to add a ref note but it is added. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 16:31, May 17, 2018 (UTC)
              • Thanks. Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 16:47, May 17, 2018 (UTC)
Unidentified Imperators
  • Why aren't the last two sentences of the Bio in {{RPGseed}} and {{Endgame}} tags? Imperators II(Talk) 14:44, May 22, 2018 (UTC)
    • Facing the spirit is part of the narrative. A Scripted Event, so to speak. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 15:49, May 22, 2018 (UTC)
      • Regardless, any action taken by the player-characters shouldn't be taken as carved-into-stone canon, so you should still enclose anything concerning the characters' actions within the tags. See the recent status articles of Seregar, Volik, or Stend IV as an example. Actually, {{RPG}} would be even more appropriate in this case than {{RPGseed}}. Imperators II(Talk) 19:30, May 22, 2018 (UTC)
  • The name of the adventure should either be in italics or quotes, but not both, and it should be consistent between BTS and Appearances. Imperators II(Talk) 14:44, May 22, 2018 (UTC)
    • Well, the quotations are generated as part of the template. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 15:49, May 22, 2018 (UTC)
      • Well, per precedent with recent status articles with roleplaying game elements in them, I've put the title of the adventure in quotes. Imperators II(Talk) 19:30, May 22, 2018 (UTC)
        • Indeed. Added. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 01:49, May 23, 2018 (UTC)
  • The date ref isn't very well-written. The way it is written now, the Force and Destiny game could just as easily be set in, say, 138 ABY. And since in the body you apparently source the timing of the adventure to the adventure itself, why don't you do the same in the ref? Imperators II(Talk) 19:30, May 22, 2018 (UTC)
    • Adjusted. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 01:49, May 23, 2018 (UTC)
      • Could you specify which product exactly places Force and Destiny shortly after the Battle of Yavin? Imperators II(Talk) 17:04, May 27, 2018 (UTC)
        • Very well, added. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 18:55, June 1, 2018 (UTC)
          • Does the adventure itself mention the Battle of Yavin, though? Or is that extrapolated from the Core Rulebook? Imperators II(Talk) 06:58, June 2, 2018 (UTC)
          • The CRB does, yes. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 02:21, June 7, 2018 (UTC)
            • Well then you can't source "by the time of the Battle of Yavin" to "Lost Knowledge," can you? Imperators II(Talk) 05:50, June 7, 2018 (UTC)
  • What does the Core Rulebook say about the Sith Lord? Imperators II(Talk) 19:30, May 22, 2018 (UTC)
    • Removed per below. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 14:22, May 27, 2018 (UTC)

Comments

I may have mis-read the Core Rulebook reference - the only mention of Athiss is that there was a tomb of Vodal Kressh, but the adventure doesn't make any links to Kressh so I can't say if they're the same. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 01:49, May 23, 2018 (UTC)

  • Then the Sources item should be removed. Imperators II(Talk) 10:52, May 27, 2018 (UTC)
  • Hi folks, you can go ahead and kill the nom. I can't see it through right now. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 18:22, June 17, 2018 (UTC)