Wookieepedia:Comprehensive article nominations/T-ST

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T-ST

Nominated by: Dat1899 (talk) 20:30, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
Nomination comments: Thank you to User:Green tentacle and others for their help.
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Support

Nice work here, looking forward to more! JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 14:56, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
YakovChaimTzvi (he/him/his) (talk) 03:24, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
LucaRoR ^(Talk) 08:34, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
VergenceScatter (talk) 21:52, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
Good work on your first nomination. Take note of this copy-edit and apply it to future nominations. UberSoldat93 (talk) 10:35, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

Object

OOM

~~Please vary the language in the prose. For instance, I count seven instances of "it" in the body alone.~~ OOM 224 20:32, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
- I reduced to "it"s to a minimum, anything else I could fix in relation to language?--Dat1899 (talk) 15:51, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
  - That's a lot better, thank you. Nothing more on language from me for now.
~~What is "Rebel Alliance Outpost"? Is there an existing article for whichever outpost this is referring to, or should a new article be created?~~ OOM 224 16:26, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
- The outpost featured in the combat training mission. I honestly don think it needs an article, given most of the other minor TIE Fighter locations currently don't. And for an outpost, it's really just a combination of several ships, nothing more.--Dat1899 (talk) 16:31, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
  - If it's unnamed and not significant to the plot then it's not notable and thus should not deserve an article. However, why is "Rebel Alliance Outpost" capitalised that way? OOM 224 16:34, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
    - No idea, but I uncapitalized the "outpost", if it helps.--Dat1899 (talk) 16:38, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Erebus

~~Release year and developer/publisher for Star Wars: TIE Fighter.~~
~~Missing {{1st}} in the Appearances section for the game next to the "simulator appearance only."~~ Erebus Chronus ^(Talk) 20:38, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
- Both fixed. Dat1899 ^{User talk:Dat1899} 17:44, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Vergence

~~Welcome to the CAN! Is Utility Tug the correct capitalization, or is Utility tug? Both are used in the article.~~
- it is "Utility Tug"--Dat1899 (talk) 15:53, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
~~I the BTS should be expanded slightly to explain the "third combat chamber mission of the TIE Bomber." As someone unfamiliar with the game, it is not really clear to me what it is.~~ VergenceScatter (talk) 20:41, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
- I created a quick explanation in the BTS Section, just to clear things up.--Dat1899 (talk) 15:53, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

UberSoldat

~~As I mentioned to you in Discord, I would like to see the referencing for ship specifications updated to match status article precedent. Here's one example, more can be found here and here.~~ UberSoldat93 (talk) 17:26, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if I should tinker with that or not, as Glas, a TIE Fighter status article lists the ship's specs in the body as well.--Dat1899 (talk) 18:30, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
  - That article doesn't do it properly, the specifications shouldn't just be plainly referenced to other sources that the subject doesn't appear in. UberSoldat93 (talk) 18:36, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
    - That has to be taken care of then. In the mean time, I will make adjustments to comply with your objection.--Dat1899 (talk) 18:40, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
      - I didn't ask you to remove information from the body. UberSoldat93 (talk) 18:43, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
        Misunderstanding. How does it look now? Is this the way?--Dat1899 (talk) 18:49, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
        Take a look at the referencing for ship specifications in these GAs as an example. This is what I want to see. UberSoldat93 (talk) 18:54, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
        
        Well I hope this was done correctly. If not then I'm really sorry. Do you have any other objections?--Dat1899 (talk)
        I'm afraid not. What I want to see is a note like this for example. UberSoldat93 (talk) 19:48, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
        
        Any better now? I tried to replicate that particular note. I'm sorry if this is bothering you. I just want to know if I did right.--Dat1899 (talk) 20:13, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
        Getting closer. Now you may have noticed that we don't really specify the manufacturer for individual ships belonging to a ship class, which is what I want you to do here as well. UberSoldat93 (talk) 14:55, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
        
        Ok, take alook now.--Dat1899 (talk) 19:21, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
        Infobox as well. UberSoldat93 (talk) 19:54, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
        Now?--Dat1899 (talk) 20:18, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
~~If this ship appeared in a simulator, then why is not made clear in the body?~~
~~This rebel outpost seems prominent enough for its own article.~~ UberSoldat93 (talk) 11:46, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
- I'll state something for the simulator. As for the outpost, I could create an article, but it will take a bit of time to explain everything, and I honestly don't think it needs one, but if you say so.--Dat1899 (talk) 09:01, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
  - Both done--Dat1899 (talk) 18:15, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
After discussing with GreenTentacle, it seems you can't definitely say that the outpost attack simulation is based on a real event. As such, we don't know if T-ST was a real ship at some point, so this article needs to be rewritten to reflect that. UberSoldat93 (talk) 12:26, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
- To clarify, the strategy guide calls them "Historical Training missions" but the manual says "Some missions were created specifically for training purposes, while others are actual missions from the past which have been selected to highlight certain combat tactics." Can't see anything obvious to say whether this mission is historical. Green Tentacle ^(Talk) 12:59, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
- What I should do about that? I cannot write down T-ST was a utility tug possibly in use by the Rebel Alliance' can I?--Dat1899 (talk) 14:24, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
  - Right, well I've made an edit that i think is plausible enough for the page. May need some additional tweaking.--Dat1899 (talk) 19:29, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
    - Should be made clear that this comes from a simulation. UberSoldat93 (talk) 19:31, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
      - Any better now?--Dat1899 (talk) 20:05, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
        The article still implies it was a real event. It should be rewritten as if the entire thing was a simulation. UberSoldat93 (talk) 16:10, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
        I fixed all I could see, right now, I think everything in the article points to this being a simulation. Let me know if I missed something.--Dat1899 (talk) 20:29, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

Macaroni

~~Since this is a Rebel ship, is it worth changing the Pilot/Legends link to Rebel pilot/Legends?~~ JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 00:50, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
- Good call.--Dat1899 (talk) 08:36, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
  - Fixed.--Dat1899 (talk) 08:38, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
    - Infobox as well. JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 15:03, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
      - Done.--Dat1899 (talk) 08:05, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
~~It seems that the stripes are yellow-and-black, not red-and-black.~~ JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 14:49, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
- Fixed.--Dat1899 (talk) 15:08, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
~~Gave it another copy-edit, please let me know if everything is still accurate.~~ JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 15:19, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
- The Class-A Containers were never mentioned to have been Imperial, I mean, one of the primary objectives is to destroy them. I'm not sure where you got that information.--Dat1899 (talk) 18:25, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
  - My bad, I read it as destroy instead of board. But I'm a little confused now--whose primary objective is it to destroy them? The player's? TS-T's? JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 23:58, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
    - Player's.--Dat1899 (talk) 14:35, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

Luca

~~Proton torpedo is double-linked.~~ LucaRoR ^(Talk) 15:05, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
- Fixed.--Dat1899 (talk) 19:45, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Comprehensive article by EduCorps 10:35, 23 October 2021 (UTC)