Wookieepedia:Comprehensive article nominations/Sol'aa

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Sol'aa

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Support

  1. GalacticRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit Winterz (talk) 04:07, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
  2. ECvote Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:41, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
  3. ECvote UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 14:59, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
  4. Immi Thrax (talk) 08:00, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
  5. ECvote Objections handled via Discord. OOM 224 ༼༽talk༼༽ 21:55, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
  6. ECvote Nice work. Imperators II(Talk) 08:51, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Object

UberSoldat
  • Context for Pazaak.
  • "When Revan questioned Sol'aa's identity, he was dismissive, hoping to keep his privacy." Who's dismissive here? It's not clear.
  • "...but instead spoke in his native tongue of Twi'leki." If his homeworld is listed as Dantooine, then specifying that Twi'leki was the native language is incorrect. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 05:58, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
    • Fixed. Jedi Order ImpacticForce (Talk) 06:19, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
      • Is Pazaak stated to be popular at that point in time? UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 06:26, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
        • Pazaak is not explicitly stated to be popular, which I fixed. I reworded the sentences. I hope they're more clear now. Jedi Order ImpacticForce (Talk) 16:34, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Is the interaction with this character mandatory for the game to progress? If not, you need to implement {{Gamemechanics}} and note the option in the BTS. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 11:40, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
    • Added. Jedi Order ImpacticForce (Talk) 16:34, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
      • In the BTS, you need to state that the interaction is optional. "Undetermined/unknown" type statements in this context are generally frowned upon. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 16:45, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Eye color is currently infobox-exclusive. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 16:45, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
    • If you don't mind me asking, what does that mean exaclty? There is no mention of eye color in the article body. Jedi Order ImpacticForce (Talk) 16:55, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
      • It means the eye color is only present in the infobox and is missing from the body, which shouldn't be the case. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 17:33, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
Macaroni
  • The first sentence up until the date should be referenced to the game itself, not the 2003 reference.JediMasterMacaroniAdmiral Ackbar RH(Conversation) 23:41, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
  • "Amnesiac" is not sufficient context for Revan. JediMasterMacaroniAdmiral Ackbar RH(Talk) 20:48, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Apologies that I forgot to strike, I've got one more objection — "who was suffering from amnesia and training as a Jedi." Was he suffering from training as a Jedi? Please clarify. JediMasterMacaroniAdmiral Ackbar RH(Talk) 03:54, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Please create in image category and link it via {{Mediacat}}, since you now have two images uploaded. JediMasterMacaroniAdmiral Ackbar RH(Talk) 19:25, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Have you sorted the audio issue you mentioned on Discord? JediMasterMacaroniAdmiral Ackbar RH(Talk) 18:54, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
    • Not yet. I was advised to just remove the incorrect audio, since it's not required for a nom. If someone got their hands on the audio, it would still be great, though. Jedi Order ImpacticForce (Talk) 18:00, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
Winterz
  • Missing references within the gamemechanics template.
    • You're still missing the reference, mate.
  • Quest information in the Bts. GalacticRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit Winterz (talk) 12:57, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
    • Checking the Revan/Legends page, there don't appear to be any references in the gamemechanics template. The character does not appear in a quest and is able to be approached at any time. Jedi Order ImpacticForce (Talk) 20:35, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
      • You're sure the Pazaak game doesn't start any quest? How do you know Revan defeats him five times? GalacticRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit Winterz (talk) 21:00, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
        • It doesn't start a quest, but if the player defeats him 5 times in a row, it will trigger some special dialogue, and he'll start wagering cards instead. As for the reference, where is it supposed to go? The template's page made no mention of a reference. Jedi Order ImpacticForce (Talk) 21:09, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
          • You misunderstand. You need to reference the text within, not the template. Also, this new info about special dialogue should be in the Bts. GalacticRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit Winterz (talk) 21:20, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
            • I really did misunderstand lol. Fixed both, thank you! Jedi Order ImpacticForce (Talk) 21:26, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
Zed
  • Does the game actually establish Dantooine to be his homeworld, as asserted by the infobox? The body doesn't indicate this, and him living there doesn't necessarily mean it's his homeworld. Zed42 (talk) 20:39, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
    • Checking the game, it's not directly established. Removed from infobox. Jedi Order ImpacticForce (Talk) 20:54, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
  • I think the BTS image can be cropped more in the vertical direction. That should also help it to fit more easily into that section. Zed42 (talk) 21:34, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
    • How's it look now? Jedi Order ImpacticForce (Talk) 21:37, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
      • I was more referring to the empty space above and below the character himself. I think it could still do with a tighter crop at the top of the image. Zed42 (talk) 21:09, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
        • I cropped it more. I was trying to run the new crop by you before I uploaded it, but discord wasn't letting me send any pictures for some reason. Jedi Order ImpacticForce (Talk) 22:50, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
Ayrehead
  • The date is going to need a ref note rather than just a straight reference to the NEC. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:44, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
    • The current wording states that the sources directly date Sol'aa's appearance, you should change it to ", which includes Sol'aa's apperance,". Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:12, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
  • The bts should mention that his outfit is also entirely different in the Xbox version. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:44, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
  • I'm assuming that saying that he "preferred" to speak Huttesse is an assumption, could you reword it to avoid this. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:44, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Is it worth stating what cards he had for sale? Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:44, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Does Sol'aa have a quote for when he defeats you? This could probably be included in the BTS as alternate dialogue. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:44, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
    • There are 15 different types of Pazaak cards he sells, and different quantities of each. I don't think it's necessary to list all of them. Addressed all other objections. I even booted up my Xbox edition and got a picture of green Sol'aa lol. Jedi Order ImpacticForce (Talk) 16:47, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
OOM
  • (Reviewing note) Please take note of these formatting errors.
  • Asking for confirmation: is the audio exactly the same for both quotes?
  • Ideally, images shouldn't extend beyond the actual content of the article. Please find a way to shorten the height of the BTS image.
  • Is "Pazaak" consistently capitalised as such in the game? The Pazaak/Legends article does not capitalise that name. OOM 224 ༼༽talk༼༽ 10:20, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
    • I think the audio uses the exact same file. Pazaak was capitalized in all of the occurrences I checked. Modified the image, but it may need to be tweaked. Jedi Order ImpacticForce (Talk) 20:58, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
      • I made the image a teensy bit bigger while not interrupting the presentation of information. OOM 224 ༼༽talk༼༽ 21:28, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
Imp
  • NEC is a very cool source for a great deal of BBY/ABY dates, but unfortunately the 3956 BBY one for KOTOR isn't one of them - the events of the game are described within a section dated "3958 BBY-3956 BBY". The Essential Atlas, on the other hand, explicitly dates the same events to 3956 BBY. Imperators II(Talk) 18:57, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
    • Fixed. I'll keep that in mind for future articles. Thanks! Jedi Order ImpacticForce (Talk) 19:33, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Although KOTOR may capitalize "Pazaak", I think it's best we be consistent and follow the example of other games like sabacc and dejarik and decapitalize it. The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia also uses the lowercase name.
  • Please provide some context for the Leviathan. Imperators II(Talk) 22:30, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Comprehensive article by EduCorps 08:51, 3 April 2021 (UTC)