Wookieepedia:Comprehensive article nominations/Military History Monthly

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Military History Monthly

• Nominated by: CT-1742 (talk) 18:34, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
• Nomination comments:

(2 ECs/3 Users/5 Total)

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Support

1. Good work getting the Aurebesh translated, writing up the article, and handling all of the objections. Looking forward to future nominations from you! OOM 224 ^{༼༽talk༼༽} 07:04, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
2. Nice job handling the objections below. A good first nomination. Hope to see more from you! Erebus Chronus (talk) 17:58, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
3. Commander Code-8 ^{Hello There!} 15:29, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
4. Welcome to the CAN! Imperators II^(Talk) 21:39, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
5. Per above, welcome! JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 21:44, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Object

Erebus

• Are you able to change the position of the BTS image so that it's not underneath the infobox? Erebus Chronus (talk) 19:03, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Changed it to the left side. CT-1742 (talk) 19:17, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
• Publication dates for episodes can't be sourced directly to the episode.
  • Fixed. CT-1742 (talk) 19:17, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
    • Need to include the release date of Landing at Point Rain. Erebus Chronus (talk) 19:28, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
      • Added the release date. CT-1742 (talk) 19:36, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
• I don't think it's necessary to include the following two episodes in the BTS, as they don't seem to reveal any developmental information.
  • Removed them. CT-1742 (talk) 19:17, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
• I'm assuming there's no information on what year of the war it published? Erebus Chronus (talk) 19:10, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
  • There isn't anything on the poster that states the year of publishing. CT-1742 (talk) 19:17, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
• Context for the Clone Wars. Erebus Chronus (talk) 19:49, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
  • I believe I properly added context. If not, please let me know! CT-1742 (talk) 03:15, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
    • Context would be the two main parties involved (i.e. the Republic and the Separatists). Erebus Chronus (talk) 03:17, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
      • All fixed, hopefully. CT-1742 (talk) 03:51, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
        • That's perfect. Erebus Chronus (talk) 12:32, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
• "As its title suggested, it was devoted to military history" whose military history? Erebus Chronus (talk) 19:57, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Added context. CT-1742 (talk) 16:59, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
• You could incorporate that the cover only appeared in Bad Batch into the BTS. Erebus Chronus (talk) 12:44, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
  • We also see it in A Distant Echo and Unfinished Business. CT-1742 (talk) 16:50, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
    • What I mean is that you could state that it first appeared in the episode but only through the magazine cover. Erebus Chronus (talk) 16:59, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
      • Updated the BTS. CT-1742 (talk) 17:10, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
• Last one: the paragraph seems a bit long. Can you please find a suitable spot to split it into two paragraphs? Erebus Chronus (talk) 18:09, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
  • I believe that should be good. CT-1742 (talk) 18:21, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
    • Yep, that's a good spot. Erebus Chronus (talk) 18:28, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Editor

• Pages can be made for each of those articles instead of linking to pages like assassin or the second battle of geonosis Editoronthewiki (talk) 19:39, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Created every article and linked them properly. CT-1742 (talk) 22:51, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

UberSoldat

• Please cite the specific gallery and slide for the "Bad Batch" episode guide.
  • Done. CT-1742 (talk) 20:53, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
• Context for Clone Force 99
  • What type of context needs to be added? Do I need to add a reference, or just add on to the article to give it more context? CT-1742 (talk) 20:53, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
    • Added proper context. CT-1742 (talk) 03:55, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
• You've sourced the poster info to the "Landing at Point Rain" guide.
  • Hopefully fixed it, meant to source the type of clone trooper to the guide.
• Ref 1 is wholly unnecessary as we take the full name from the poster itself in this case.
  • Fixed. CT-1742 (talk) 20:53, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
• Ref 2 is completely speculatory as it operates under the assumption that there were no more engagements at Geonosis.
  • Removed. CT-1742 (talk) 20:53, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
• Ref 6 is also complete speculation.
  • Completely removed all speculation. CT-1742 (talk) 20:53, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
• Policy specifically states not to link individual words in proper compound nouns. It also tells us not to separate compound terms on the first linking instance. UberSoldat93 (talk) 19:45, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Fixed, really sorry about that. CT-1742 (talk) 20:53, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
• The date note has to specify what source places the episodes in that order. See Unidentified reserve fleet as an example. UberSoldat93 (talk) 06:50, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Fixed. CT-1742 (talk) 16:19, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
• lease check the guides of the other episodes for any appearance of the poster. UberSoldat93 (talk) 14:35, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Added its appearance from the "Unfinished Business" episode guide. CT-1742 (talk) 17:44, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Macaroni

• You should mention in the body that the magazine had Aurebesh on it. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 01:22, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Added the mention. CT-1742 (talk) 01:48, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

OOM

• "The Bad Batch" Trivia Gallery on StarWars.com does not italicise the title, and instead puts them in double quotation marks ("). Please revise the article to reflect this. Moreover, the Aurebesh on the magazine cover is not italicised, so the subject's title should not be italicised either.
  • Fixed. CT-1742 (talk) 20:07, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
• "As its title suggested, the magazine […] was written in Aurebesh" is incorrect, since the title does not suggest that. The mention of Aurebesh would be better suited to the second paragraph, perhaps alongside the mention of the clone trooper helmet.
  • Fixed. CT-1742 (talk) 20:07, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
• Does the source say there were "many posters"? If not, that's speculation and should be removed. OOM 224 ^{༼༽talk༼༽} 19:22, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Other posters can be seen inside of the Marauder. Space Battles is a good example. CT-1742 (talk) 20:07, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
    • Yes, but it's good practise to avoid any speculation/WP:NPOV language. If the source doesn't describe the posters as "many" or likewise, then the Wookieepedia article shouldn't use that wording. Same goes for the word "a wide array." OOM 224 ^{༼༽talk༼༽} 21:08, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
      • Removed all WP:NPOV language. CT-1742 (talk) 02:54, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
• The context for Clone Force 99 can be slightly expanded to mention that they served the Republic. That line should also be copy-edited for punctuation. OOM 224 ^{༼༽talk༼༽} 21:08, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Added more context for Clone Force 99 and copy-edited the line. If any of the punctuation wasn't fixed properly, please let me know! CT-1742 (talk) 02:54, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
    • Thank you for fixing my terrible punctuation. I'll work on improving it for future articles. CT-1742 (talk) 16:20, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
      • No worries! OOM 224 ^{༼༽talk༼༽} 23:18, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
• I think the second sentence of the first paragraph, particularly the part about "various organizations," is speculation.
  • Fixed. CT-1742 (talk) 02:41, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
• A narrower timeframe would be nice, like mentioning the mission(s) the Havoc Marauder went on with the magazine aboard.
  • Added mentions to those mission. Please let me know if I need to add more context. CT-1742 (talk) 02:41, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
• Is there a reason why the information currently sourced to ref 4, the audio description, isn't simply sourced to the actual episode?
  • The audio description gives the Havoc Marauder a name, and mentions that it was owned by Clone Force 99. CT-1742 (talk) 02:41, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
• *"The cover featured the article Geonosis: The Last Battle[2] and the helmet of a special ops clone trooper." How's featuring the Geonosis article different from featuring the other articles? You should clarify that. Also, the cover doesn't really feature a clone's helmet, so a better word should be used here.
  • Should be fixed. CT-1742 (talk) 02:41, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
• I think it's worth mentioning the date of when Plunkett's concept art was made. OOM 224 ^{༼༽talk༼༽} 23:18, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Added the mention. CT-1742 (talk) 02:41, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Imp

• The source noted in ref 6 does identify the helmet as belonging to a special ops clone trooper, but it does not in any way feature the magazine cover, so you can't use the same ref to source that entire sentence. Only the helmet bit goes with ref 6. Imperators II^(Talk) 19:35, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Fixed. CT-1742 (talk) 20:20, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
• Is there *any* other info on the IU articles listed in the infobox other than their Aurebesh titles? If not, why do you reference the Geonosis one to a different source in the article's body than the other ones? Imperators II^(Talk) 19:40, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Fixed. CT-1742 (talk) 20:20, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
• I'm also going to have to disagree with OOM's objection above. Sure, the trivia gallery slide puts the magazine's title in double quotes, but 1) we always, always try to consistently italicize magazine titles, and 2) you'll notice none of the slides in that gallery utilize italics, even for film and TV show titles. I can't recall ever seeing Aurebesh text being italicized, either. All of this makes me think we should still italicize the title of this magazine for our purposes. Imperators II^(Talk) 19:50, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Italicized the magazine's title. CT-1742 (talk) 20:20, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Comments

• The nomination title must be italicized just as the page being nominated. Erebus Chronus (talk) 03:05, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Somebody seems to have fixed it. CT-1742 (talk) 19:21, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
    • Yes, JediMasterMacaroni did it yesterday I believe. But thank you, anyways! Erebus Chronus (talk) 19:29, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
      • Indeed. :) JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 19:39, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Approved as a Comprehensive article by EduCorps 21:51, 1 April 2021 (UTC)