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Maelstrom (Maelstrom-class)
- Nominated by: Loqiical (talk) 02:45, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
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- ThrawnChiss7 (talk) 23:59, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
Copy-edit Braha'tok enthusiast Hello there 16:49, 26 November 2022 (UTC)- —spookywillowwtalk 20:11, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- Just FYI, my copy-edit removed redundant wording of "the period of the war" -> "the war", which is an event that takes place over a period. Manoof (he/him/his)
13:12, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
Object
Thrawn
You should mention its Legends origins in the bts section. -ThrawnChiss7 (talk) 14:08, 8 November 2022 (UTC)It is a maelstrom-class, so it should have the traits of a maelstom-class in its article (ie armament, hyperdrice, length). -ThrawnChiss7 (talk) 23:43, 10 November 2022 (UTC)- I believe that the current policy is to not write general information unless specifically stated for the individual object. Loqiical (talk) 04:44, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- What about these articles? -ThrawnChiss7 (talk) 21:20, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
- For the first three, I think that it states somewhere that 'all' of them have the same height (though I can't see where it says "all", so I'm guessing that we can assume that Databank info applies to all individual items). For Tyrant, the film itself visually depicts those features, which allows us to write them down. There aren't any depictions of Simoom. Loqiical (talk) 23:14, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
- The length of the tyrant is sourced to the fact that imperial star destroyers are 1600 meters per databank. In the new sourcing policy it even says "A source might establish a property that applies to a group of subjects, without mentioning a specific subject in that group." this is exactly what is going on here, a source is establishing a general property. This case of the tyrant is the same as the maelstrom, where the length can be sourced to the fact that all maelstroms are 2200 meters in length. -ThrawnChiss7 (talk)
- I'm not sure where it says that the length is 2200m. Loqiical (talk) 03:25, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
- So sorry, I don't know what I was thinking. -ThrawnChiss7 (talk) 15:03, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not sure where it says that the length is 2200m. Loqiical (talk) 03:25, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
- The length of the tyrant is sourced to the fact that imperial star destroyers are 1600 meters per databank. In the new sourcing policy it even says "A source might establish a property that applies to a group of subjects, without mentioning a specific subject in that group." this is exactly what is going on here, a source is establishing a general property. This case of the tyrant is the same as the maelstrom, where the length can be sourced to the fact that all maelstroms are 2200 meters in length. -ThrawnChiss7 (talk)
- For the first three, I think that it states somewhere that 'all' of them have the same height (though I can't see where it says "all", so I'm guessing that we can assume that Databank info applies to all individual items). For Tyrant, the film itself visually depicts those features, which allows us to write them down. There aren't any depictions of Simoom. Loqiical (talk) 23:14, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
- What about these articles? -ThrawnChiss7 (talk) 21:20, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
- I believe that the current policy is to not write general information unless specifically stated for the individual object. Loqiical (talk) 04:44, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
Category:Battlecruisers, (maybe category:Star Destroyers) -ThrawnChiss7 (talk) 15:03, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
DFaceG
Per this section of the sourcing policy, ThrawnChiss is correct. Unless the specific details and traits of this ship are explicitly stated to differ, we should assume it has the traits typical of all Maelstrom-class battle cruisers.- Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 22:24, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
Spooky
Is there a particular reason Jedi general is linked separately, rather than introducing a link to Jedi general? Unfamiliar with the souece and thought to ask.- The source uses "Jedi general" but I guess we can assume that Jedi general and Jedi General are the same thing. Loqiical (talk) 02:40, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- Since it does indeed use them both in succession, went and copy-edited that in. Indeed—there are a good amount of other sources who do decapitalize 'general' in these cases but it still refers to the same thing.—spookywillowwtalk 20:11, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- The source uses "Jedi general" but I guess we can assume that Jedi general and Jedi General are the same thing. Loqiical (talk) 02:40, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
It might suit better to introduce that it was part of the Republic's Navy during the Clone Wars in the first sentece (move up the CW mention a bit), then leave the specific year range of when those battles took place to the second sentence. Seems just a touch long of a sentence, though I'll leave the restructuring up to you.—spookywillowwtalk 05:15, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
Comments
Approved as a Comprehensive article by EduCorps 13:12, 27 November 2022 (UTC)