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The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a comprehensive article nomination that was unsuccessful. Please do not modify it.

Kuna's Eye

  • Nominated by: —TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 18:06, June 11, 2011 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: After trade routes come the bright stars.

(3 ECs/1 Users/4 Total)

Support

  1. ECvote—Axinal Convocation Chamber 10:25, June 12, 2011 (UTC)
  2. Good.--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 11:24, June 12, 2011 (UTC)
  3. ECvote I trust you'll take care of Bob's stuff. Menkooroo 05:39, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
  4. ECvote ~SavageBOB sig 15:14, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

Object

  1. Axinal
    • I understand the desire to avoid repetition, but I don't think it's quite proper to have 1,000 written in numerals and then spelled out fully later. I think it would be better to keep it consistent, even if it's somewhat repetitive.
    • Planet should be linked somewhere in the article, I'm thinking either by pipelinking "protoplanetary" or just linking it in the BTS. An EC might have a more definitive stance on it.
    • Also, I think a cropped version of the image on page 189 of TEA might serve as a fair image for the article. Would you be able to upload that?
    • Otherwise, very nice.—Axinal Convocation Chamber 03:04, June 12, 2011 (UTC)
  2. Hatchet
    • If the Atlas references a specific mineral-rich protoplanetary disk, I think that an "unidentified" article is in order.
    • Is "cognominal system" an alias of "Kuna's Eye system?" If so, shouldn't it be capitalized?
    • Rather than write something like [[Kuna's Eye system/Legends|Kuna's eye]] [[Star system/Legends|system]] to get Kuna's eye system, it's better to just write [[Kuna's eye system]] and then pipelink star system later in the article.
      • Change implemented.
    • Why is the thin disk "so-called?" And should it have its own article? Menkooroo 12:46, June 12, 2011 (UTC)
      • It is only mentioned in Ebenn Q3 Baobab's in-universe lesson in the introduction of the Atlas. —TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 13:00, June 12, 2011 (UTC)
        • I... don't really see how that answers either of those questions. Menkooroo 04:07, June 13, 2011 (UTC)
          • Clarification: I think this should rather be an addition to the article about the galaxy. "So-called" is there because only Baobab mentions it, so it might even be some sort of slang name on Manda, or whatever.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 09:37, June 13, 2011 (UTC)
            • There are countless things in SW canon that are only named by characters and not by narrative. It's not a reason to doubt the authenticity of their names. Reading the intro of the Atlas, I think that a two-thousand-light-year slice of space is definitely significant enough to get its own article. No different than The Slice having its own article. Menkooroo 14:30, June 13, 2011 (UTC)
    • Just one more: There's some tense shifting in the bts. Present tense is good, but the "This section gave a brief description" would have to be changed to match. Menkooroo 06:01, June 15, 2011 (UTC)
  3. Imperators II
    • "Kuna's Eye system" can't be sourced to p.192. Rather the appendix. Imperators II(Talk) 17:32, June 12, 2011 (UTC)
      • Well, p. 192 says that "The disk is full of valuable minerals, and prospectors are frequent sights in the system." However, I'll add the appendix as well.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 17:42, June 12, 2011 (UTC)
    • Page 192 states that "the Kuna worlds are so named because they form part of the Kuna constellation visible in the night skies of Maya Kovel". Add this info. Imperators II(Talk) 17:36, June 12, 2011 (UTC)
  4. Bob
    • I'm pretty sure this system was introduced in the article "Endor and the Moddell Sector," not the Atlas. This source needs to be consulted and any info it has added.
      • Who should I call for help?—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 09:37, June 13, 2011 (UTC)
        • I just checked, and there is indeed a decent amount of info to be added from the article. Normally if you're missing a source, a good tactic is to do a "what links here" on the item's page (in this case Star Wars Gamer 9; this will net you a list of users who have listed the item as being in their personal collection. You can then talk page message them individually to ask them to check for you. In this case, I have the source and have emailed you with some info. So check your email. :) ~SavageBOB sig 16:59, June 13, 2011 (UTC)
        • Sorry to butt in, just a little curious: the article is about the star, not the system, and the two don't always share the same name. Is it still necessary to add all the sources that name the system?—Axinal Convocation Chamber 10:16, June 13, 2011 (UTC)
          • True, true, but in this case, the star is directly referenced in the Gamer article, and described. ~SavageBOB sig 16:59, June 13, 2011 (UTC)
            • Ah, I see. Didn't realize the star itself was mentioned.—Axinal Convocation Chamber 17:41, June 13, 2011 (UTC)
              • I asked Nayayen to provide me with the info. I will add it as soon as he gets back.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 13:04, June 14, 2011 (UTC)
                • Bob, thanks for the .pdf. It arrived in order, and I now updated the article as necessary.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 16:15, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
    • What source calls it the Moddell subsector? I'm pretty sure it's a full sector. If it is a subsector, what it's a subsector of should be added too. ~SavageBOB sig 17:58, June 12, 2011 (UTC)
      • The Atlas is kinda chaotic here. P. 188 starts with "The Moddell Sector, but in the same sentence, it says that it was "admitted as a freestanding subsector around 50 BBY". The map on p. 189 also marks it as a subsector.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 09:37, June 13, 2011 (UTC)
        • I just checked the Atlas Online Companion, which lists it as being in the Zuma sector, Moddell subsector. Perhaps go with that as the most recent source and note the confusion in the BTS. ~SavageBOB sig 16:59, June 13, 2011 (UTC)
    • Is the Zuma sector part of the Inner Zuma region or vice versa? I thought the region was the larger entity, as the maps seem to show several sectors making up the full region.
      • Looks like they're simultaneous entities: sectors are horizontal and the Zumas are vertical. At least pp. 188–189 implies that.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 19:55, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
    • Be careful; at some points you seem to be talking about the system, and at others the star. And the Kuna worlds shouldn't be visilbe from Maya Kovel, but the stars should.
      • Teh Atlas sez that teh Kuna worlds form teh Kuna constellation. Ohterwise, subjects fixed.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 19:55, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
        • Weird. :/ ~SavageBOB sig 21:53, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
    • You're getting a little long in word count. I'd say the stuff about the goings-on at the Mote could be safely dropped as being more appropriate to the Kuna's Eye system rather than the star itself. The space station's existence should be noted, though, since it presumably rotates around the star.
    • You can probably axe the fact that Gamer 9 was the ninth issue, since it's implied in the title. Otherwise, looks great. ~SavageBOB sig 19:47, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
    • OK, one last thing before we go: "The star's parent system was less than 1,000 light-years above the galactic plane." Since the star is part of the system, and this article is about the star, could this be changed to "The star was less than 1,000..." ? ~SavageBOB sig 21:53, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
  5. Jujiggum
    • Sitting at 295 words by my count, this is no longer eligible for the CAN and needs to be moved to the GAN. Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 17:57, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

Comments

  • The article is at 314 words now. Should I archive the nomination now, or wait until all objections have been addressed?—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 19:38, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
    • You've only got 130 words of non-BTS text, though, so I'd argue you're safe to keep the nom here. ~SavageBOB sig 19:49, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
      • It seems all objections—excepting Jujiggum's—have been addressed, and since the 250-word limit includes BTS material, the nomination should now be moved to WP:GAN.—Axinal Convocation Chamber 18:20, June 17, 2011 (UTC)