Wookieepedia:Comprehensive article nominations/Gorv Mespit

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Gorv Mespit

• Nominated by: Fan26 (Talk) 19:33, March 14, 2019 (UTC)
• Nomination comments:The vendors are among the NPC army that will march on the Status article pages during the TORpocalypse as well. Fan26 (Talk) 19:33, March 14, 2019 (UTC)

(3 ECs/2 Users/5 Total)

Support

1. Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 15:33, March 15, 2019 (UTC)
2. Zed42 (talk) 06:27, March 19, 2019 (UTC)
3. Supreme Emperor (talk) 05:48, April 3, 2019 (UTC)
4. User:Spookywilloww/Sig2 17:06, April 19, 2019 (UTC)
5. Imperators II^(Talk) 13:27, May 7, 2019 (UTC)

Object

Anil

• The quote is missing punctuation at the end.
  • Ugh, I've never gotten a quote right on the first try. :P Fan26 (Talk) 23:27, March 14, 2019 (UTC)
• File names, including images, should have underscores rather than spaces in their names.
  • How do I move an image? Do I just replace it with the same exact image, but change the destination file name? Fan26 (Talk) 23:55, March 14, 2019 (UTC)
    • Oh, you don't need to move the image, I'm talking about this. Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 00:16, March 15, 2019 (UTC)
• I believe that "Green" was meant to be in the "Skin color" parameter of the infobox, not the "Eye color."
  • Yes it was, thanks. Fan26 (Talk) 23:27, March 14, 2019 (UTC)
• If you are going to pipelink something, the entire phrase should be included between square brackets: [[Galactic Republic]]'s and [[Galactic Republic/Legends|Galactic Republic's]]
  • Will remember that for the future. Fan26 (Talk) 23:27, March 14, 2019 (UTC)
• Armor should be linked.
  • Fixed. Fan26 (Talk) 23:49, March 14, 2019 (UTC)
• Also, the word "spoke" can be pipelinked to Language/Legends.
  • Done. Fan26 (Talk) 23:27, March 14, 2019 (UTC)
• I think you can mention Gorv's Mirialan tattoos, which is slightly visible in the image.
  • If saying they were on the bridge of his nose was too specific, let me know. Fan26 (Talk) 23:27, March 14, 2019 (UTC)
    • I think it's fine. Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 23:36, March 14, 2019 (UTC)
• There is an extra space after "1.2" in the BTS.
• I'm not familiar with the SWTOR stuff, so forgive me if this is a dumb question. Is the mention of the addition of the Legacy system relevant here? If not, I think you can simply format it as "Game Update 1.2: Legacy," just like in that SWTOR website in the ref 2.
  • No, it's pretty valid. I'm guessing so, because he's a legacy vendor. Fan26 (Talk) 23:27, March 14, 2019 (UTC)
• I think the release date of the update is more relevant that the release date of the base game here. Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 23:09, March 14, 2019 (UTC)
  • You're probably right. Fan26 (Talk) 03:32, March 15, 2019 (UTC)
• One last thing, could you mention that Mespit was covering his face or something? Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 13:43, March 15, 2019 (UTC)
  • That look better? Fan26 (Talk) 15:19, March 15, 2019 (UTC)

Ayrehead

• The wording of the article makes it sound like he was permanently in the plaza continuously for all of the years you describe. While I realize he is stood there permanently in the game, I think it needs to be re-worded here to suggest he worked in the plaza or something similar as his stationary nature is just game mechanics. Ayrehead02 (talk) 09:41, April 3, 2019 (UTC)
  • Does that look better? Fan26 (Talk) 16:57, April 3, 2019 (UTC)
• I'm not certain of our policy on this, but Jedipedia lists the color for his hair and eyes from the game files. I think this should be included with an explanatory note.Ayrehead02 (talk) 09:41, April 3, 2019 (UTC)
  • Ugh, forgot about them. Cade had a habit of using them sometimes, but IMO that's more on the gameplay mechanics side of things. I'll mention it in the BtS. Fan26 (Talk) 16:57, April 3, 2019 (UTC)
• As discussed on IRC, the body currently isn't as specific about the time frame as the intro is. Ayrehead02 (talk) 09:15, April 9, 2019 (UTC)
  • Tried to avoid repeat wording. Does that look better? —Unsigned comment by Fan26 (talk • contribs)
    • Objection(s) overridden by EduCorps 13:29, May 7, 2019 (UTC)

Imp

• Sorry, I'm still not seeing how the mention of the "Legacy system" has anything to do with the subject of the article. Imperators II^(Talk) 10:21, May 7, 2019 (UTC)
  • He's the Smuggler legacy vendor, forgot to mention that. Fan26 (Talk) 11:39, May 7, 2019 (UTC)
    • Fine, but this is completely redundant now: "along with the addition of the rest Legacy system". Imperators II^(Talk) 11:55, May 7, 2019 (UTC)
      • Removed. Fan26 (Talk) 13:00, May 7, 2019 (UTC)
• I believe the mention of the Senate Building is a bit extraneous, especially in the body, where it contributes to the opening sentence being really long-winded. Please revise that. Imperators II^(Talk) 10:21, May 7, 2019 (UTC)
  • Fixed. Fan26 (Talk) 11:39, May 7, 2019 (UTC)
    • That sentence still needs to be split up. You can lead by saying Mespit lived around the time of the blahblah, and then describe his activities in another sentence. Imperators II^(Talk) 11:55, May 7, 2019 (UTC)
      • Is that better? Fan26 (Talk) 13:00, May 7, 2019 (UTC)

Comments

• I just realized that although the article says Mespit was selling during the Cold War, since he is available to smugglers for pretty much the entire game, it might be wrong to say this. Coruscant (and by extension Mespit) are first accesible at the beginning of act I/end of the prologue, which takes place during the Cold War. Should I annotate this with a ref explaining the logic, or instead say he "had been present on Coruscant since at least 3643 BBY", which is when Act I takes place, and then ref that. Fan26 (Talk) 13:28, March 15, 2019 (UTC)
  • So, do we see him on Coruscant before or after the Cold War? Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 13:43, March 15, 2019 (UTC)
    • Sorry, I forgot to explain. The Cold War starts like a decade prior to the beginning of the game. It ends sometime between acts 2 and 3, and the Galactic War starts. He remains accessible for the entire game regardless of where the player is story-wise, hence my suggestion to just say he's been there since at least 3643 bby. Fan26 (Talk) 13:50, March 15, 2019 (UTC)
      • In that case, that's really up to you. But I think something like "and the years following the war" should suffice. Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 15:14, March 15, 2019 (UTC)
        • I'll probably do that. Fan26 (Talk) 15:19, March 15, 2019 (UTC)
• Grammatically, the description of an individual always needs to be ordered species before gender. I've fixed it hear for you, but keep this in mind for future articles. Ayrehead02 (talk) 09:41, April 3, 2019 (UTC)
  • Okay, will do. Fan26 (Talk) 16:46, April 3, 2019 (UTC)
• Please keep in mind how {{WebCite}} should be formatted for your future nominations. Your edit had also introduced Category:Pages with missing permanent archival links, and our articles must use internal links if possible (Jedipedia). Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 11:37, April 4, 2019 (UTC)
  • I don't think it's a good idea to link to the page-that external link is the webpage where the information is. I was trying to figure out how to get the template to recognize that a backup link wasn't possible yesterday - how do I do that? Fan26 (Talk) 12:54, April 4, 2019 (UTC)
    • I don't understand the first part of your question. Hovewer, for citations that have no archival link available, you can add |nobackup=1 to the template. This one can be archived, though. Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 13:23, April 4, 2019 (UTC)
      • It can? Last time I checked the wayback machine doesn't accept it. And to clarify the first part, I meant that the jedipedia SWTOR.net webpage has the actual information, so perhaps it should be linked to. Fan26 (Talk) 13:28, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

Vote to strike objection (EC only)

1. Ayrehead's objection has been addressed for almost a month now. Imperators II^(Talk) 13:27, May 7, 2019 (UTC)
2. Tommy Macaroni 13:28, May 7, 2019 (UTC)