Wookieepedia:Comprehensive article nominations/Carbon Freeze

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Carbon Freeze

  • Nominated by: Immi Thrax (talk) 19:58, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Have another drink on me!

(1 ECs/3 Users/4 Total)

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Support

  1. Lewisr (talk) 03:02, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
  2. ECvote OOM 224 ༼༽talk༼༽ 07:18, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
  3. Commander Code-8 Hello There! 00:54, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
  4. JediMasterMacaroniAdmiral Ackbar RH(Talk) 02:38, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Object

Macaroni
  • Missing audiobook
    • Cue forehead slap-- fixed! Immi Thrax (talk) 20:39, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
  • You currently have "Contains no alcohol" sourced to the GE cookbook. Is this accurate?
    • Added clarification on that coming from the real-world. Immi Thrax (talk) 20:39, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Full date for junior novel is unnecessary, just the year is needed.
    • I've now set out additional dates to give a timeline of the drink first getting mentioned, then announced, then actually debuting at the park. Does that address it being unnecessary as it was, or still unnecessary? Immi Thrax (talk) 20:39, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
  • (Reviewing note) All ref notes should be fully linked. JediMasterMacaroniAdmiral Ackbar RH(Talk) 20:15, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
    • Did you already catch them yourself on your edit pass, or I need to take another look? I didn't spot them. Immi Thrax (talk) 20:39, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
      • I think I fixed the ref linking in my copy-edit. Other objections look good! JediMasterMacaroniAdmiral Ackbar RH(Talk) 22:52, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
        • Haven't heard back on this in awhile--have I finished addressing it?Immi Thrax (talk) 08:00, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
          • The review note wasn't an objection, just something to be aware of for future noms. JediMasterMacaroniAdmiral Ackbar RH(Talk) 13:23, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
Lewis
  • From the way you've listed the appearances, the audiobook appearance for Pirate's Price currently states the drink appears in the book.
    • Done—should've listened to my nagging feeling that wasn't correct! Immi Thrax (talk) 15:25, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Missing info and appearance from A Crash of Fate Lewisr (talk) 02:31, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
    • Huge thank you for this catch. Please let me know if it's incorrect; I haven't actually read the entire book, just hunted down the appearance. Immi Thrax (talk) 15:25, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
OOM
  • Description of the drink's appearance is infobox-exclusive.
  • In the last sentence of the body, the article should clarify who "his" is referring to.
  • Also, I think A Crash of Fate should be checked for where the Carbon Freeze was drunk. OOM 224 ༼༽talk༼༽ 13:23, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Looking great! I have a question regarding sourcing though. In the previous revision, the word "supplied" is sourced to GEStaff, while the current revision sources that word to the Traveler's Guide. Which is correct? OOM 224 ༼༽talk༼༽ 17:33, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
    • So! The drink contains boba pearls (the "eggs"). The Traveler's Guide describes how a worrt from Tatooine, which lives in a tank above the bar, supplies hundreds of eggs every day that are added to drinks. However, the book doesn't specify that the Carbon Freeze is one of those drinks. GEStaff, on the other hand, identify the boba pearls as eggs. I know of at least one Disney Parks Blog video that identifies the boba pearls as worrt eggs in the Jabba Juice, so on that article's BTS I cited that, but I'd have to dig further to see if there's any video for that. Does that clarify what says what, and help figure out where to put which citation? Immi Thrax (talk) 00:57, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
      • Ah, I see. The current arrangement is correct, since the Traveler's Guide only needs to say where the bar's eggs came from, and GEStaff does the job of identifying those same eggs as the boba pearls in this specific drink. OOM 224 ༼༽talk༼༽ 07:18, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
CC-8
  • Could use a Youmay template for Carbon-freezing. Commander Code-8 Hello There! 11:42, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
    • I think it might be prudent to detail this in the body itself, though this will bring the word count above 165. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 11:45, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
    • Does the existing text (partially?) cover that, or not enough? "In his book Traveler's Guide to Batuu, historian and author Eloc Throno described the Carbon Freeze as more enjoyable than being frozen in carbonite and not causing carbon sickness." —Immi Thrax (talk) 11:51, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
      • In my opinion, it would be better to detail what carbon freezing is first, and then noting Tuggs' thoughts later on. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 11:54, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
        • Ponder, ponder... The book doesn't explicitly say the beverage is named for carbon-freezing (even though the duck test tells us it obviously is), so I'm not sure how to work in a description of it that doesn't veer off the topic of the beverage and commentary about said beverage. I'll get some rest and see if I can think of something, but I'd also like some other eyes to see if they think that's needed. Commander Code-8, I added the Youmay, see if you like the wording? —Immi Thrax (talk) 12:07, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
          • Youmay template is good. You could do something like "more enjoyable than being frozen in carbonite, a process with which it shared a name." Or you could just comment on the similar names in the Bts. Commander Code-8 Hello There! 13:18, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
            • What does it say about me that I enjoyed the challenge of incorporating that while maintaining the word count requirement while also not arbitrarily shortening the article? —Immi Thrax (talk) 00:27, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Imp
  • I peeked into the GE cookbook, and the passage that refers to Carbon Freeze as "potent" is in-universe. Which means the fact that Tuggs made that comment needs to go into the body, which in turn means the article will certainly go over 165 and we'll need to see an introduction. Imperators II(Talk) 10:33, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
    • Ahhhh and that in turn puts it in the weird territory where once it gets over 165, the BTS is part of the word-count, and the body plus BTS as it currently stands already put it at about 300. I'll need to close out this nomination, and make it a GAN instead. —Immi Thrax (talk) 03:46, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Comments

Just a heads up, I'll be handling any further objections for this nomination. MasterFredCommerce Guild(talk) 04:54, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Thank you for the temporary adoption—now drink up! —Immi Thrax (talk) 11:52, 1 April 2021 (UTC)