Wookieepedia:AC/Meeting 117

As summer solstice approaches, the AgriCorps is hosting its traditional Midsummer Celebration / Meeting 117 at the exclusive Wookieepedia lakeside summerhouse. In addition to large quantities of herring, gravlax, and of course snaps, killing and probing GAs will also be on the agenda. Make space in your calendar on June 29, 2019 at 3 PM ET / 7 PM UTC, because this is one party you don't want to miss.

Agenda

Thrown into the bonfire

• First Battle of Ord Biniir (diff • review)
• Knuckles of the katarn (diff • review)
• Order 65 (diff • review)
• Kivvaaa (diff • review)
• Field Achievement Award (diff • review)
• Second Battle of Ord Biniir (diff • review)
• Strategic Resources of the Galaxy (diff • review)
• Order 5 (diff • review)
• Dornean Braha'ket Fleetworks Conglomerate/Legends (diff • review)
• Ingoda (diff • review)

Burned by the midnight sun

Expand as needed. The bin.

• XS stock light freighter — Underwent a pretty sizable expansion between November 2018 and January 2019 for a new source. Recommended for Redux. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:16, June 24, 2019 (UTC)
• Graffiti-bomb
  • 22 BBY cannot be sourced straight to the HNN articles, which only use GrS dates
  • Recommend a paragraph break in the History section
  • Maybe I'm just totally missing it, but I don't see where the HNN article states that it was published on April 11, 2002. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:40, June 24, 2019 (UTC)
• Electro-dart
  • I think there's way too much extraneous detail in the History section that really has nothing to do with the electro-dart. The surrounding events of the story involving the darts can be told with less fluff.
  • Can we really not specify a date for the events of the Clone Wars comic? Even a circa date would be nice. The comic article itself states 19 BBY.
  • Article body certainly looks like it could hold another image
  • BTS is unsourced and needs to format comic story correctly. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:40, June 24, 2019 (UTC)
• Quad Victor
  • Infobox image should be digitized
  • History could use a paragraph break
  • Presumably another image could be had from the comic for the article body
  • BTS is unsourced. Also, author and illustrator would be nice.
• Plevitz
  • A bit of underlinking throughout
  • BTS is unsourced and needs to format comic story correctly
  • Last sentence of BTS is unnecessary and should just be removed. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:40, June 24, 2019 (UTC)
• Pumav
  • None of the BBY dates can be sourced to the HNN article, which only uses GrS
  • This article sits at 260 words, by my count, and I see quite a bit of fluff that should probably just be removed, in which case I don't see how this article maintains the 250-world threshold:
    • "in the Core Worlds region,[2]" is just unnecessary and doesn't add any extra context or substance to the article
    • "during the waning days of the Galactic Republic." is not supported by the HNN article
    • "Pumav was capable of racing on either two or four limbs" is repeated between the Bio and P/T. This doesn't need to be mentioned twice.
    • "only appearance in Star Wars canon" is mostly unnecessary now in light of Legends. Just say he "appeared in" this HNN article.
    • "released on April 18, 2002" isn't stated anywhere in the HNN article
  • BTS unsourced. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:40, June 24, 2019 (UTC)
• Mondo-Mod
  • We haven't really tackled this topic in too great of detail at any article-reviewing level, but I feel like this article sort of shines a brighter light on the issue, namely the hermaphroditic status of Hutts. We know they're all hermaphrodites from third-party source material, but I really don't feel like this is strictly necessary to mention in every single Hutt page, as it has more to do with the species than the individual character. Particularly since our infobox field specifies gender rather than sex, just saying that Mondo-Mod, for example, had a masculine personality should suffice. Thus, I feel like everything being sourced to NEGAS regarding hermaphroditic details can be removed from this article.
  • Article is missing the males category
  • The Bio can certainly be divided into two or more subsections, which enables the use of additional quotes if available
  • BTS:
    • Unsourced and needs to format comic story correctly
    • Author, illustrator, and publisher would be nice
    • CSWE sentence should just be removed
• Penetrator
  • The story won't mention 3 ABY explicitly, so that needs a separate reference. I believe the date actually comes from Essential Reader's Companion.
  • BTS is unsourced and needs to format short story correctly
  • Last sentence about being reprinted in Tales from the Empire can just be removed. However, that item does need to be listed in the Appearances.
  • Since ERC has an entry for this story, I'd be surprised if it doesn't mention the Star Destroyer, even indirectly. This should be checked. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:40, June 24, 2019 (UTC)
• Ychna
  • Recent edit changed "Jedi Knight Mara Jade" to "Jedi Master Mara Jade" in the article body. I don't know whether this is correct, but this is now inconsistent with "Jedi Knight Mara Jade" in the quote attribution. This should be checked for accuracy and made uniform between the two.
  • I don't believe any of the ABY dates can be properly sourced to the NJO novels, which only present the dates in the Del Rey Novels Timeline in the front of the book. I believe these should be referenced to Essential Reader's Companion.
  • "History" should be renamed to "Ychna in the galaxy," per the Layout Guide
  • BTS is unsourced. The last two sentences can also just be removed. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:40, June 24, 2019 (UTC)
• Kelbis Nu
  • 26 ABY is exclusive to the intro and infobox. Additionally, I don't believe that date can be properly sourced to the NJO novel, which only presents the date in the Del Rey Novels Timeline in the front of the book. I believe this should be referenced to Essential Reader's Companion.
  • Can the events of I, Jedi not also be provided an ABY date?
  • Other infobox-exclusive information
  • The details of his lightsaber, cortoris armor, and any other stuff he may use should be detailed in an Equipment section -- which I would warn might very well bring this article over 1000 words, as it sits at 938 currently, by my count.
  • "Under her leadership,[4] Nu constructed his own orange-bladed lightsaber and a suit of cortosis armor;[1]" Reference 4 cites a Polyhedron article, which does not mention Kelbis Nu, so that can't be sourced like this, as that story naturally does state that he trained "under her leadership."
  • The first "Jedi Knight" subsection paragraph, the P/T, and the Powers and abilities paragraphs all begin with the exact same wording. Let's mix it up a little bit.
  • BTS is mostly unsourced (it can't all be sourced to that Insider article). Publication dates would also be nice. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:40, June 24, 2019 (UTC)
• Tresk Im'nel
  • No ABY dates? At least the Unifying Force details can be given a date, no?
  • Much of this looks like it actually belongs in the "Skills and abilities" section (which gets renamed to "Powers and abilities" for Force character): "Im'nel could read and write Galactic Basic Standard, and was an eloquent speaker, able to inspire confidence in those around him. He also had some proficiency in forgery and computer use."
  • BTS is unsourced. Also, the author of the Wizards article should be mentioned. The last sentence about the NJO appearance can probably just be removed. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:40, June 24, 2019 (UTC)
• The Rakata and the Unknown World
  • BTS unsourced.
  • Ref 2 should be fully linked.
  • Publication year in BTS, please.
  • Second sentence of BTS is extraneous and should just be removed.
  • Upon Darth Revan's first mention in infobox and article, he should be linked to as [[Revan|Darth Revan]], not [[Darth/Legends|Darth]] [[Revan]].
  • Infobox-exclusive info.
  • The first sentence of "History" is referenced to Jedi vs. Sith, which is incorrect. Imperators II^(Talk) 20:37, June 25, 2019 (UTC)
• Imperial Support Vessel — I have updated the article per Age of Rebellion - Luke Skywalker 1. Recommended for Redux. Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 23:31, June 25, 2019 (UTC)
• Gira
  • Infobox image needs to be reuploaded 400px if possible.
  • Last sentence of Bts unsourced.
  • Missing backup links.
  • Date of death cannot be sourced to the CSWE entry.
  • 19 BBY cannot be sourced to ROTS. MasterFred^(Whatever) 04:41, June 27, 2019 (UTC)
• Set
  • Release dates in BTS.
  • BTS needs to be reworded concerning the establishment of the Legends continuity. Imperators II^(Talk) 07:41, June 27, 2019 (UTC)
• Xexto
  • In need of an update per Age of Rebellion - Han Solo 1.
  • Missing permanent archival links. Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 00:22, June 28, 2019 (UTC)
• Larrim
  • Infobox-exclusive info.
  • Attire should be described in an Equipment section. Imperators II^(Talk) 10:12, June 28, 2019 (UTC)

Proposed snapsvisor

Expand as needed.

• Articles without sections. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 21:06, June 25, 2019 (UTC)

Attendance

Dancing around the maypole

1. Tentatively. 1358 ^(Talk) 22:54, June 14, 2019 (UTC)
2. Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 03:24, June 15, 2019 (UTC)
3. Imperators II^(Talk) 09:38, June 15, 2019 (UTC)
4. Let's add some date refs to the bonfire. MasterFred^(Whatever) 04:06, June 17, 2019 (UTC)
5. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:40, June 27, 2019 (UTC)
6. Ayrehead02 (talk) 09:52, June 29, 2019 (UTC)
7. Exiled Jedi (talk) 11:49, June 29, 2019 (UTC)

Passed out from snaps

1. Unfortunately that's my end-of-mocks party. I'll leave notes closer to the time. Tommy Macaroni 15:35, June 15, 2019 (UTC)

Letters from the anti-pagans

Alkoholi

• Kill: First Battle of Ord Biniir, Order 65, Kivvaaa, Second Battle of Ord Biniir, Order 5, Dornean Braha'ket Fleetworks Conglomerate/Legends, Ingoda
• Keep: Knuckles of the katarn, Field Achievement Award, Strategic Resources of the Galaxy
• Probe: All new, except:
  • Redux: Imperial Support Vessel
• Support: Tope's sections policy
• Anything else, Imperators can wield my knife vote. Have fun lads. Tommy Macaroni 19:02, June 27, 2019 (UTC)

Minutes

Attendance

• AnilSerifoglu
• Ayrehead02
• Exiledjedi
• Imperators II
• Master Fredcerique
• Toprawa and Ralltiir
• Xd1358

Articles that kept their status

• Field Achievement Award
• Knuckles of the katarn

Articles that had their status removed

• Dornean Braha'ket Fleetworks Conglomerate/Legends
• First Battle of Ord Biniir
• Ingoda
• Kivvaaa
• Order 5
• Order 65
• Second Battle of Ord Biniir

Articles sent to Redux

• Imperial Support Vessel
• XS stock light freighter

Articles placed on probation

• 3B3-1204
• Electro-dart
• Gira
• Graffiti-bomb
• Kelbis Nu
• Larrim
• Mondo-Mod
• Penetrator
• Plevitz
• Pumav
• Quad Victor
• The Rakata and the Unknown World
• Set
• Tresk Im'nel
• Xexto
• Ychna

Articles that had their probation extended

• Strategic Resources of the Galaxy

Motions

• The AC voted 6-2 in favor of adopting a new rule that would require all nominated articles be sectioned.

Meeting duties

• Paperwork: Master Fredcerique
• Schedules Meeting 118: Imperators II
• Log