Wookieepedia:AC/Meeting 114

The very best of evenings to you! Welcome all, once again, back to another year at the AgriCorps school of Witchcraft and Wizardry. As many of you are aware, Ayrehead has had to schedule two EduCorps meetings in a row and so has run out of relevant ideas. As such, I do hope you will join me on March 23rd, 2019 at 3 PM ET / 8 PM UTC for the start of term at this most magical of meetings. I'd advise all students to remember that if they are unable to attend a lesson it is most wise to leave notes.

Agenda

Horcruxes to destroy

• Alchenaut (diff • review)
• Srrors'tok (diff • review)
• Farnsworth (diff • review)
• RC-5093 (diff • review)
• 233rd (diff • review)
• Athnalu (diff • review)
• Kahiyuk (diff • review)
• Cord-class starfighter (diff • review)
• Order 4 (diff • review)
• Chancellor's Service Medal (diff • review)
• Lassicar (diff • review)
• Five Veils Campaign (diff • review)

Bogarts to banish

Expand as needed. See Maintenance bin.

• Gree/Legends — Should be checked for potential update. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:59, March 13, 2019 (UTC)
  • Appears to possibly be a mistake – Dangerous Covenants appearance list does not have an entry for the planet, but does have one for the species. I suspect a mix up here but have asked Darth Yarco who added the info for clarification and if possible to point me towards the info in the book. - Sir Cavalier of One^{(Squadron channel)} 13:10, March 19, 2019 (UTC)
    • Meeting note: confirmed to be a mistake by original editor. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:34, March 21, 2019 (UTC)
• Xi'Dec/Legends
  • Infobox-exclusive info
  • It's preferable to list members in the infobox by individual bullet points
  • I don't understand why the article needs to use multiple reference notes in so many instances. That really only needs to be done in the instance a particular fact is controversial (i.e., the length of the Executor-class in Legends). Like, why does the infobox need three ref notes to cite the species being insectoid, an obvious fact? For double reference notes in the article body, references should be applied in-line, not tacked onto the end of sentences.
  • "Xi'Dec in the galaxy" could probably be subsectioned
  • The 9 ABY date isn't referenced properly.
  • BTS unsourced
  • Expand on context for subject's first appearance in GG4 for BTS (i.e., publication date, publisher, connection to Star Wars: The Roleplaying Game
  • Format image caption punctuation correctly
  • Change "History" image caption to something relevant to that particular section. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:56, March 14, 2019 (UTC)
• Forris
  • Redirect
    • Fixed.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 09:42, March 19, 2019 (UTC)
  • Date ref needs elaboration
    • Fixed.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 09:42, March 19, 2019 (UTC)
  • The uniform identifies him as a member of the Mantellian Army; a good degree of rewriting is required. Fan26 (Talk) 17:13, March 16, 2019 (UTC)
    • I'm curious where does the term Mantellian Army come from. I remember looking for names related to the Mantellian organizations and not being able to find anything except a reference to the Central Authority later in the game. Where is this name used in the game (quest/item/conversation/etc)? Also, where is it confirmed that the blue uniform is for the Mantellian Army?--Exiled Jedi (talk) 09:42, March 19, 2019 (UTC)
      • A conversation with some reporter at the beginning of a quest. She references not being able to bribe the "whole corrupt Mantelliam Army" to do the job they player does. Probably not the best name, but I was under the impression such things should be used as the name if no other name is available. The assumption that the blue uniform is for the army is because all of the nameless NPCs wearing that sort of uniform are identified as "Mantellian Trooper/Soldier", while armor-wearing NPCs are identified as "Republic Soldiers". Fan26 (Talk) 13:00, March 19, 2019 (UTC)
• Muz
  • Digitize image
  • It certainly appears there is enough room for a Biography image
  • The Legacy comics cannot be used as a reference for a hard date of 137 ABY. Those comics only say that "The events of this story take place approximately 137 years after the Battle of Yavin."
  • In the P/T, I'd rather see his eye and skin color moved to the end of the paragraph. Additionally, discussion of his clothing belongs in an Equipment section, not the P/T.
  • BTS unsourced. Would also like to see the publisher mentioned. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 22:18, March 18, 2019 (UTC)
• Royal Chalcedony Shield
  • HNN articles can't be used as a source for 22 BBY, as they only use GrS dates
  • "Notable recipients" should just be turned into a "History" section
  • There's some pretty bad extrapolation in the article regarding non-Alderaanians who receive the medal. The fact is, we're only ever given one instance of a non-Alderaanian receiving it, Horox Ryyder, so for all we know that could have been an exceptionally special and rare one-of-a-kind thing. The article should avoid making extrapolated assumptions based off that singular event, such as "Horox Ryyder was one of the few such individuals to receive a Royal Chalcedony Shield." and "...but non-Alderaanians could occasionally be given the medal as well; as such, these recipients would be officially adopted by Alderaan."
  • Something from the HNN article can probably be used as a quote for the History section
  • BTS is unsourced. It should also expand on the OOU details of the HNN article, such as author, full publication date, and the context that these stories were released in the lead up to the theatrical release of Episode II. The CSWE sentence is pointless and should be removed. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 22:46, March 18, 2019 (UTC)
• Dorosii
  • Since we're not given any indication of the character's gender, I think it would be better to just remove the extrapolated hermaphrodite detail from an unrelated source.
  • Paragraph break in the Bio would be nice
  • HNN articles can't be used as a source for 22 BBY, as they only use GrS dates
  • If reference 5 and the portion it's citing is going to be kept in the article, that needs some kind of better explanation in the reference note to connect how the events of that HNN article correspond to the Separatist Crisis
  • If we don't know Dorosii's gender, this needs to be reworded to avoid the pronoun: "His views were not shared by the Jedi Council, however, which reportedly responded with an investigation."
  • BTS is unsourced. It should also expand on the OOU details of the HNN article, such as author and the context that these stories were released in the lead up to the theatrical release of Episode II. The CSWE sentence is pointless and should be removed. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 22:55, March 18, 2019 (UTC)
• Plevitz Essential Guide to Species
  • "Literature" should probably replace "Essential Guide" in the infobox's Type field
  • If we know this guide was released by the end of the Clone Wars, it would be better to specify "By 19 BBY" (with appropriate referencing) in the infobox
  • BTS is unsourced. It should also expand on details, including author and publisher. The CSWE sentence is pointless and should be removed. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 22:59, March 18, 2019 (UTC)
• 84-U hunting rifle — This whole article is predicated on pretending that this rifle he's holding isn't an 84-U because "no source has confirmed the 84-U to be the rifle Lufba is wielding in the film," to quote the BTS. I think this is silly and wrong. The character's Databank entry makes it quite evident that this is the conclusion we're supposed to be drawing, and Tim Veekhoven explicitly states this to be his authorial intention. So I don't know why we're going out of our way to avoid making the obvious connection. There's a big difference between interpreting source material conservatively and outright misinterpreting it. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:13, March 18, 2019 (UTC)
• Imperial long-range rocket rifle
  • Paragraph breaks in the Description and History sections would be nice.
    • Doing so would also allow for a body image, if available
  • The comic can't be used as a source for the 4 ABY date
  • BTS unsourced. Would also like to see full publication date for the comic issue. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:23, March 18, 2019 (UTC)
• Shiv (clone trooper)
  • Essential Reader's Companion alone cannot be used to source 22 BBY
  • Paragraph break in the intro would be nice
  • Article should have an Equipment section detailing his armor and any weaponry he uses
  • Article should utilize the SWArchive template for "Cold Snap" in the Appearances and references
  • "Cold Snap" comic name should be in quotes, not italics
  • BTS should detail webcomic's author, illustrator, publisher (StarWars.com), and publication date. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:32, March 18, 2019 (UTC)
• Ovarra
  • Questioning the absence of an ABY date, since so many other Galaxies articles specify one, whether it's correct to do so or not
  • "Chieftain" need not be capitalized in all instances, per MOS
  • It certainly seems the Biography could fit another image if available
  • The discussion of her fur color should mention that white spot over her left eye area
  • BTS is unsourced. Should also be expanded to mention year for source. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:32, March 21, 2019 (UTC)

Hogwarts: A History

Expand as needed.

• Meeting time. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 00:35, March 10, 2019 (UTC)
• Handling 1000+-word articles. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:25, March 21, 2019 (UTC)

Attendance

Hogwarts Students to be sorted

1. Ravenclaw Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:21, March 9, 2019 (UTC)
2. Slytherin Tommy Macaroni 17:15, March 9, 2019 (UTC)
3. Ravenclaw Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 00:07, March 10, 2019 (UTC)
4. Ravenclaw Exiled Jedi (talk) 12:19, March 23, 2019 (UTC)

Muggles

1. You're a Jedi, Harry. Imperators II^(Talk) 11:09, March 9, 2019 (UTC)
2. Maybe I’ll get my letter next year. MasterFred^(Whatever) 02:06, March 15, 2019 (UTC)
3. Ran into the pillar at platform nine and three quarters. 1358 ^(Talk) 00:29, March 19, 2019 (UTC)

The Daily Prophet

Fred

Kill: Alchenaut, Srrors'tok, Farnsworth, RC-5093, 233rd, Athnalu, Kahiyuk, Order 4
Keep: Cord-class starfighter, Chancellor's Service Medal, Five Veils Campaign
Extend: Lassicar
Probe: Everything new, except Forris, which Tope gets my vote for.
Discussion: Tommy has my vote since he had no extra power last meeting. :P MasterFred^(Whatever) 22:38, March 22, 2019 (UTC)

imp

• kep Cord-class, Chancellor's Service, Five Veils
• xtend Lassicar
• kil the rest
• sper Gree/Legends
• prob the rest
• giv votes on other stuff to Top. Imperators II^(Talk) 12:56, March 23, 2019 (UTC)

Magical Minutes

Attendance

• Ayrehead02
• Exiledjedi
• Master Fredcerique
• Tommy-Macaroni
• Toprawa and Ralltiir

Articles that lost their GA status

• Alchenaut
• Srrors'tok
• Farnsworth
• RC-5093
• 233rd
• Athnalu
• Kahiyuk
• Cord-class starfighter
• Order 4
• Chancellor's Service Medal
• Five Veils Campaign

Articles that kept their GA status

• Lassicar

Articles that were put on probation

• Xi'Dec/Legends
• Muz
• Royal Chalcedony Shield
• Dorosii
• Plevitz Essential Guide to Species
• 84-U hunting rifle
• Imperial long-range rocket rifle
• Shiv (clone trooper)
• Ovarra

Articles that were spared from probation

• Gree/Legends
• Forris

Notes

• Log
• Imperators does paperwork; Fred schedules Meeting 115
• 3 PM ET was decided as the new standard AgriCorps meeting time.
• Good articles that exceed 1,000 words will be probed and stripped off their GA status unless the word count is reduced. Nominators are encouraged to take their 1,000+ Good articles to the Featured article nominations page.