Talk: Shadowtrooper/JediArchive

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March 26, 2005 - July 25, 2006

Catalogue of Celestial Bodies

That will be a heck of a project, trying to get everything all arranged. Does this mean every thing will have an article. I'll have to have Chad (aka CBarbry aka WhiteBoy) about how much memory we have. -- Riffsyphon1024 15:06, 26 Mar 2005 (EST)

  • Most of the minor ones will link to a list article, I still gotta change the links, but it'll do for now. Shadowtrooper 18:31, 26 Mar 2005 (EST)
    • I have just created an assload of individual sector articles, that all link from the Sectors list. They are still stubs though, with one or two exceptions. -- Riffsyphon1024 19:38, 26 Mar 2005 (EST)
      • Nice! This is really starting to become the Star Wars resource. Everybody's got an area they know way too much about, when that gets combined...it'll be frickin' awesome! Shadowtrooper 19:45, 26 Mar 2005 (EST)
        • Be careful though. Anything you copy from TheForce.net is not appreciated by the creator of the CUSWE. I asked permission from him to copy those lists of planets, and I'm waiting for a result now. Be on the safe side. Where do you get the rest of your sources? -- Riffsyphon1024 21:19, 29 Mar 2005 (EST)
          • I didn't know the CUSWE existed, so I certainly haven't used anything from that site. Most of my info comes from Essential Guides, sourcebooks (and their respective web enhancements), the Navicomp, and the occasional novel. I try to cite all my sources for big projects like the Catalogue of Celestial Bodies|catalogue; if I don't cite it, it came from my head (how it got there in the first place is still a mystery). Shadowtrooper 21:27, 29 Mar 2005 (EST)

Just a reminder

Since many of us waiting for Episode III and working on here would like to avoid spoilers at all costs, please note that on those articles relating to Episode III, and include it in the edit summary before I waltz in thinking something's okay and its not. Cheers. -- Riffsyphon1024 22:23, 6 Apr 2005 (EDT)

Being taken care of as we speak. Shadowtrooper 22:30, 6 Apr 2005 (EDT)

And another thing

I would hope that we become more creative in the awards process. I need to post that no actual medals can be used for copyright problems. Please cite your Corellian Cross and Endor Medal, as they seem to be real medals, but renamed. Just keeping things in check. -- Riffsyphon1024 15:13, 7 Apr 2005 (EDT)

Sorry, I'm still not used to having copyrights breathing down my neck. I'll say where I got them from. I ony used 'em 'cause I like 'em, I'm not planning on using anymore copyrighted awards.Shadowtrooper 18:29, 7 Apr 2005 (EDT)
Oh, you meant don't use 'em at all. Alright, they're gone. I'll make sure future submissions are original. Shadowtrooper 19:57, 7 Apr 2005 (EDT)
Your actions are appreciated. I hope I have not impeded you too much. -- Riffsyphon1024 00:24, 8 Apr 2005 (EDT)

Cardia or Carida?

I believe that Cardia is incorrect, by misspelling, and should be merged with Carida. Is there proof of a planet such named, even though its nearly identical to the Carida article. -- Riffsyphon1024 00:42, 9 Apr 2005 (EDT)

Aww, crap. This is really a bad week for me. :( Carida is the right one, go ahead and merge 'em. (So not my week!) Shadowtrooper 13:01, 9 Apr 2005 (EDT)

Template:DF-JK and Template:NJO

If you've been on my work-in-progress page you've probably seen the NJO template. I also did something like it for the Dark Forces/Jedi Knight videogame series (basically ripoffs of Template:Films). I was thinking that all of the longer game and book series could use one. It would save on space, help to interconnect articles, and provide some uniformity. These first two are more or less to see what general reation to them would be. Any feedback would be appreciated. Shadowtrooper 20:11, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

They both look good. I can't find anything wrong with them. -- Riffsyphon1024 20:22, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
Thanks fer the feedback :-) Shadowtrooper 20:54, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

Moving info from Stars to Systems

Seeing how these star articles are turning out, wouldn't it seem more appropriate to put this information (the orbits of the bodies) in system articles? Those systems will always be stubs unless we do so, and then they can link back to info on the star itself. -- Riffsyphon1024 14:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

  • Sounds good, but leave a copy of the orbits on the star page. The idea (eventually) is to have all stars and planets include a list of known orbiting bodies (natural satilites). Shadowtrooper 14:23, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
    • So you want two copies of the orbiting bodies floating around? Refer to my edit on Coruscant Prime and you see that by providing a direct link to its system, one can still find out. -- Riffsyphon1024 14:29, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

Depth

Could you please explain why "depth" is the more appropriate term in the infobox, when height would describe it better, when talking about the 3 three spatial dimensions of something? -- Riffsyphon1024 17:41, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

  • Well, for one, depth is the term used in many publications. Second, tecnically speaking, when referring to 3D the dimensions are length, width, and depth. If you're still not convinced, I 'spose we'll just use height. Shadowtrooper 13:47, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Mind stating which publications those come from? -- Riffsyphon1024 18:55, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
      • The Incredible Cross-Sections, and I believe SWTC. And I've got an idea, why not just put "height/depth"? It provides both the more and less technical terms. Shadowtrooper 22:55, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

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WookieeProject Starships

Hey there. I've noticed that you've been adding some infoboxes to starship articles, and I thought you might be interested in joining our project on starships to make the articles more uniform (including the development of an infobox template and article structure). Take a look here at the Star Wars Wiki:WookieeProject Starships|WookieeProject Starships. I've only just setup the barebones structure today, and we'll start filling in the details soon. --SparqMan 04:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

  • Actually, I've started Star Wars:WookieeProject Vehicles|WookieeProject Vehicles, that encompases starships, ground vehicles, etc. I'd love if you'd join up, any help you can provide would be appreciated. Shadowtrooper 01:41, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
  • We can probably merge these projects together, although I don't see why you're using an included infobox rather than a simple template. --SparqMan 02:40, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
    • I don't really know how to make that kind of template, if you can make one it would probably make it easier on others. Shadowtrooper 02:43, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

Great stuff

Man, i had no idea you had written soooooooooooo many articles. I am jealous and must try harder. --Mantus 17:56, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

  • Agreed. You have done alot of stuff regarding new articles. -- Riffsyphon1024 19:04, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)


Nav

Note: I ask if you really think we need to add that template to every astrographic object or area in the galaxy. It seems a bit much to suddenly douse everything with templates. -- Riffsyphon1024 03:49, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

  • It's not gonna be on every one, just those whose sources are unverified. Displaying our sources is professional, and lends us credibility. I'll lay off the page tagging for now though, try to focus on researching those pages I tagged so the tags can be removed. -- Shadowtrooper 03:54, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Well I just wondering since it seemed that way. Most of my contributions regarding systems and sectors come from there and I trust him to be accurate since he cites his sources and pays close attention to detail. No harm done though. -- Riffsyphon1024 04:03, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • That's cool, I just put the tag on pages that didn't say where they got their sources, so the tag serves the purpose of stating that the source(s) is/are assumed, not verified. If at least some of the info definitely comes from nav-computer, then the message goes away no harm done. -- Shadowtrooper 15:36, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Copyvio

Riffsyphon tells me you have the Essential Guide to Vehicles- would it be possible for you to do me a favor, and look up the Carrack article? Because they seem rather similar to me, which would be a copyvio; but before I go slapping a copyvio on an article, I prefer to doublecheck. Thanks. --Maru 16:38, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

EAW info

Hi! I see you´re writing some new stubs about vehicles in Empire At War. I´d like to know where you are getting your info from, as I´ve never seen any names being given to the new vehicles in that game yet. Thanks! VT-16 09:30, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Do you mind?

Hey Shadowtrooper, I find your little Scout Trooper (File:Tbhelm.gif|30px) really cool. Uhhh... do you mind if I use one for my own (not a Scout Trooper of course :P). It is your idea after all, right? Inmobilus 19:25, 15 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Why your watchlist is all weird

We had a vandal earlier today calling himself "SuperShado" redirecting pages and generally causing trouble. — Silly Dan 01:27, 6 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Signature icons

Hi Shadowtrooper,

I was just wondering where you came across those little icons e.g. your Scout Trooper and Imobilus's Boba Fett. Would you be kind enough to let me know please? :)

Thanks!

Forgotmytea 21:17, 14 Jan 2006 (UTC)

    • Thanks - I was wondering if you've got a Jango Fett file/icon somewhere? :)

Thanks again, Forgotmytea

  • Just to say thanks for all the help you gave me with my siggy icon thing - it's working perfectly now, thank you :). Sorry I didn't reply and thank you earlier, my college work has kinda been swamping my life recently. Anyway, thanks again!!

File:Fett_helmet2.jpg Forgotmytea talk

Infoboxes

I saw your recent edits on the ship template and on the Delta-7 fighter, and I must say that I'm impressed -- they look nice. However, on the Delta-7 article, I saw that you manually created the high-level infobox for that specific ship. While this looks great, I'm not sure if using maually generated infoboxes is the best idea. Besides being a hassle to code, they can deter newcomers and take up a lot of space (well, relatively). As I said in my question here, I think we should establish more guidelines regarding infobox type/usage for various categories. What do you think? Thanks, RMF 19:07, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

  • Replied Shadowtrooper talk 19:16, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
    • Thanks for the prompt reply. I don't know if it's the proper usage, but the standard way of using high level infoboxes is to place all the source code on a template page and then reference that for each article. This is what you would put in the article: (a fictional article using the ship template, which already has the source code)
{{ship|
image=[[image:Alpha_1|300px]]
name=Alpha starfighter
manufacturer=[[Rothana Heavy Engineering/Legends|Rothana Heavy Engineering]]|
line=[[Alpha series]]
model=[[Alpha-class starfighter]]

And so on, using the templates' fields. This is the standard way, but not necessarily the best. Although much easier to code/edit/use, the disadvantage of this is that all the fields on a template will show up on all of the articles that reference it, even when some fields aren't needed. Example: if you use the ship template with a TIE/LN starfighter, a number of the fields don't apply (such as shielding, hyperdrive). Worse, on articles with only a little information, many of the fields must be labeled "unknown." The advantage of the current method (using pl, plf, and plh) is that it is easily modifiable, allowing only the information that is known to be placed on the article page. The disadvantage of this is that it lacks uniformity and doesn't look nearly as nice as high-level 'boxes (e.g. planet, ship). Your method, using customized high level infoboxes for each page, has its own advantages and disadvantages. I'm not saying any method is right, I would just like to see more guidelines and regularity. Keep up the good work. RMF 19:34, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

  • I was thinking about our dilemma here and I came up with an idea: suppose we created an individual infobox for each ship, but instead of placing it on the article page we created a new template and simply reference that? For example, on the Delta-7 article, we could cut the infobox code and paste it into a template, one entitled Template:Infobox/Delta-7 Aethersprite-class light interceptor. Then, in the article, we would simply put the following at the beginning:
{{Infobox/Delta-7 Aethersprite-class light interceptor}}

This way, we have all the advantages of a custom high-level infobox without all the messy code. Thoughts? RMF 21:51, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

  • I went ahead and implemented this on a number of different articles: Aggressive ReConnaissance-170 starfighter, Delta-7 Aethersprite-class light interceptor, Alpha-3 Nimbus-class V-wing starfighter, Eta-2 Actis-class light interceptor, even the AT-TE page (I used different colors and fields, of course). It works very well, and looks neat and clean on the article page itself. The only disadvantage I can see is the lack of uniformity/regularity among ships: we can negate this (for the most part) by referring to a standardized template with all available fields in the correct order. Then, when we convert low to high-level, we remove the fields that don't apply. I know you have a Wookieepedia:WookieeProject Vehicles, should we create a Wookieepedia:WookieeProject Starfighters (and others, of course) for this? RMF 01:35, 7 February 2006 (UTC)


I just started a unified discussion here, so we can all work together in one place. Please join in! —Darth Culator (talk) 13:59, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

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Liam Neeson

Thanks a bunch for leaving that message on my talk page, by the way, do you think that Ani should redirect to Anakin Skywalker?

I was wondering, how do you put an image into your signature? I'd like the Implogo.jpg image after my "Talk" part of the signature. Please respond on my talk page. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) 22:20, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Whoopsie

Yea sorry about that. I was overexcited and overcritical simultaneously. I wished the founder good luck in broken Spanish over there if its any consolation. -- Riffsyphon1024 23:11, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Gee, my very own vandal!

Thanks for catching that guy. I don't know who could have told him my prison nickname... CooperTFN 03:07, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

  • That was supposed to be a secret?!? Whoopsie! ;) Shadowtrooper talk 14:05, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for the welcome! I've been active in the Wikipedia Star Wars Wikiproject for some time, so I thought I might as well join Wookieepedia as well. I was wondering, we have a really good article on Vibroweapons at Wikipedia; could I transfer it over here or merge it with the existing one? Master of Puppets 06:27, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for replying. I created the article and redirected the existing article to it; if you could read over it, I would be grateful. Thanks! Master of Puppets 15:07, 6 April 2006 (PDT)
RepliedShadowtrooper talk 16:58, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
You guys had Vibroblade before. I changed the title because the old one only specifies one type of vibroweapon, and I also added in some information. Master of Puppets 20:54, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Just wondering

for the Tutakan, when in VP does it appear?--Erl 23:29, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Another pathetic lifeform

I'm not that pathetic am I? :P -- Riffsyphon1024 23:17, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Eras

See here before adding era symbols. StarNeptuneTalk to me! 01:44, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

  • Whoops, sorry. Didn't realize it wasn't "law" around here. :P Shadowtrooper talk 20:34, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Question

When you created the article Frija, you mentioned that her father's name was Lexhannen. What's the source for that name? The only thing I can find for Frija's father is the last name of Torlock. For now I'm going to remove it, but if there is a source that I overlooked, could you correct me. Thanks. Cull Tremayne 19:59, 23 July 2006 (UTC)