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A Guide to the SW Universe
Hey, I saw your small message on the talk page of the above article and agree. I did E and F, which desperately need fixing, but I was wondering if you would be interested in forming some sort of posse to finish off that cursed page.--Darth Niffoc 20:25, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
- I'd love to help, but unfortunately, I won't have access to the book for another month or two. Do what you can, and I'll try to join you when I get the chance! ~ SavageBob 22:15, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Worrite
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Icehead
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Uroth
It's funny how things work out. I was actually looking for the Uroth myself the other day to write up a U species. I must have missed them but found the Th'iruckai later on in the book which I am now in the process of writing up. Great minds think alike. :D --Eyrezer 12:16, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
- Ha! Guess I beat ya to it. :) I had a little unexpected free time, so I kind of went on a spate of new articles. Glad to know the Uroths would've been in good hands had I not been able to tackle them. ~ SavageBob 22:21, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
- Hey Bob. I've posted the Quork CSWE entry here. Perhaps I should have just put it directly onto your talk page, but it is nice to make use of our Forums. :D --Eyrezer 00:36, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
- OK, found it! Thanks! ~ SavageBob 01:51, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
Underwater dweller
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Hey Man
Hey man, I just want to let you know that you forgot to add Appearances/Sources for Droid Hunt. :) JangFett Talk 01:54, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reminder, but I'm unsure what I did wrong. "Droid Hunt" is itself a source, since it's an RPG adventure. Can you clarify what I should do? ~ SavageBob 01:56, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, it's part of an RPG, sorry man. Then possibly the article could use a ==External links== section, since it shouldn't need a App/Sources. How old is Droid Hunt? Not sure if the creator has an official website for the RPG. JangFett Talk 02:00, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
- I see Ey added in a "See Also" section. Sorry for the confusion SavageBob, its been a long day :P JangFett Talk 02:01, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
- No worries! It's pretty old, dating to before the Internet was very popular. I don't think West End Games even had a website. Hopefully it's a bit clearer now. ~ SavageBob 02:03, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
Caponata goes to the moon
Don't worry about the Treaty objection. It was a typo: Ua-Galactic Empire Treaty vs. Uaua-Galactic Empire Treaty, system vs. planet, article name vs. first mention in the body of the article] — But I wasn't sure if the typo was in the later or in the other. Eyrezer's last edit in treaty unified nomenclature, check it if you want.
It's too early in the morning here. I don't know if I'm expressing myself clearly.-Skippy Farlstendoiro 06:20, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
- OK, thanks for the clarification. It could also go under Ua system-Galactic Empire treaty, I suppose. I'm not sure if there's precedent for when a treaty is system-wide. Thanks for your thoughts, as muddled as they may be! ~ SavageBob 00:34, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
- Hey Bob, seeing as you have some PhotoShop skills, perhaps you would like to edit a few pictures for our Portfolio pages. Originally, Volemlock was making some nice icons for it, as you can see from the likes of the Drovian, Gotal, and Pau'an pics used on the FA page. Since then I've been grabbing the most suitable pic already on the Wook. If you were so inclined and wanted a break from writing, it might make our pages look prettier. --Eyrezer 05:09, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, I noticed those and have had those heads on the back burner for a while. I'm about to move house, so I may not be able to manage more than some writing here and there for now, but it is something I intend to get to sooner or later. ~ SavageBob 06:34, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
- Cool. I also wanted to point out that I added a new source to the Ranat page: the Star Wars Gamemaster Screen. They also get a mention in Who's Who in the Max Rebo Band in the form of a song called Kick the Ranat. --Eyrezer 01:06, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, I noticed those and have had those heads on the back burner for a while. I'm about to move house, so I may not be able to manage more than some writing here and there for now, but it is something I intend to get to sooner or later. ~ SavageBob 06:34, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
H&S Ugor mention
They are mentioned on page 10, in the "Repulsor-Assisted Ground-to-Orbit Concussion Missile Launcher" section --Jinzler 08:45, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
Lizard Warrior
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Uroth (not Uthor...)
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Squib Battering Ram
In response to your question, it's found on page 52, with the stats being in table 2-7:ranged weapons on page 51, chapter 11 "Outlaw Tech" - Omicron 15:07, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
New Plympto FF
Sorry, SavageBob - been taking a bit of a break from the Wook due to a family bereavement, and avoiding all the latest spoilers from Abyss and the Essential Atlas. I'll try and get the info for you today. - Cavalier One20px(Squadron channel) 10:53, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry, Bob. Gonna get round to doing one for Eyre tomorrow or Friday, so I'll do it at the same time. Thanks for being patient :) - Cavalier One20px(Squadron channel) 15:19, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
Ultimate Alien Anthology
Hi SavageBob,
I have a favour to ask! As one of our esteemed species gurus, I assume you are in possession of the Ultimate Alien Anthology, published in 2003? I was wondering if you could aid me by consulting the entry on the Yuuzhan Vong and informing me if a Yuuzhan Vong goddess called Yun-Ne'Shel is mentioned? If so, I would be even more grateful if you could transcribe the relevant sentence or so for me.
Thanks!
-- —Harrar (Cut the comm chatter) 14:55, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
- Yep, you're in luck! There's a sidebar on p. 192 that includes this tidbit: "Yun-Ne'Shel, the Modeler, is perhaps the most benevolent of their gods, promoting innovation, gentility, and most commonly fertility, asking for no sacrifices in return." ~ SavageBob 15:17, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks so much, I owe you one. Sounds like the guide's worth picking up! -- —Harrar (Cut the comm chatter) 17:53, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
Viidaav
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New Plympto
Hey Bob, I checked the FF you wanted; New Plympto is only mentioned on a map of the Core Worlds. No new info or any other relevant info, I'm afraid. - Cavalier One20px(Squadron channel) 23:34, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
- OK, thanks for your help! That's actually not that bad; it means the article is more complete than I thought! ~ SavageBob 02:54, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
Operation: Challenge #73
I'm on target, Savage Leader. You'll get my report in a few hours. This should be a blue milk run. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 06:33, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
- Sent by e-mail yesterday. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 06:11, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
Re: Essential Atlas
Thank you. I had seen the page but I haven't had the time to edit my articles yet.
I do not own the Atlas, although I think I can buy a copy. If you do have one, do you recommend it? --Skippy Farlstendoiro 15:23, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
Ogre
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Zandor Rocker
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Dalicron
When you get back, you should think about nominating Dalicron-4. It looks like you've already done most of the work for it. --Eyrezer 01:53, September 18, 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'm certainly considering it! I'm still in moving limbo, so hopefully starting next week I can start contributing to the Wook again. ~ SavageBob 05:36, September 24, 2009 (UTC)
Re: Thanks
No problem. As for Ranat, I'll get there eventually. :P CC7567 (talk) 15:48, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
RE: Trap
Since it's already been deleted, it would have been more proper to create an SH thread to allow the community to comment. However, I have replied on the talk page as to the reasons for deletion. Cheers, Grunny (Talk) 03:41, October 15, 2009 (UTC)
- SH would be better as more people will check it, so more people can voice their opinions :). Grunny (Talk) 06:28, October 15, 2009 (UTC)
Hoover
Hey Bob. Were you thinking of writing up Hoover? I just aw your edits on its appearance list. --Eyrezer 10:05, October 19, 2009 (UTC)
- Actually, no; I saw that you had asked about the species on a few pages that I've got watchlisted, so I did a search for the critters on Amazon.com and came up with a few sources no one had mentioned yet. I figured I'd add them to the sources page so you'd know to keep an eye out for them! ~ SavageBob 14:20, October 19, 2009 (UTC)
- Cheers! I think the only one I'd missed was The Complete Visual Dictionary, which should have been obvious! I hadn't ordered them though, so that job got easier! Actually the CSWE coverage is interesting as it has entries for both Attark and Hoover - but treats them both as individuals! Under Hoover, it has "Although little known, apparently his species was named Hoover, too." That makes me wonder whether I should treat the coverage of Hoovers at Jabba's Palace as one or two individuals... I had forgotten about Ranat by the way, so now fixed. Finally, you need to get a Species GAN up quick. We there are racing to see who will get #50 :P --Eyrezer 22:17, October 19, 2009 (UTC)
/ˈfəʊn ˈhəʊm/
I've studied linguistics years ago; else I would not have dared to edit your change without a talk. I failed the phonetics exam, but I eventually passed it in September.
Why /th/ is not a phoneme? Mostly because a phoneme must have an unambiguous relation with the sound it represents, which is the idea of a phonetic transcription. The problem with /th/ is that it is not one phoneme, but two. You can write a full word in phonemes: /hot/. You can write several words: "Hot ham" /hotham/. /th/ represents two different sounds, one after the other.
The usual way to represent phonemes is using the symbols of the IPA (I think it meant International Phonetic Alphabet), which are perfect for most European languages; when you read something between slashes, IPA symbols are assumed by default. In that case, /th/ would mean "hot ham", not "thin". So, lowercase theta.
Do you see my point of view? --Skippy Farlstendoiro 21:45, October 23, 2009 (UTC)
Chat
Hi! lonely Leia wants a friend 2 discuss Star Wars with, do u accept?--Princess Leia Organa Skywalker Solo 14:52, October 28, 2009 (UTC)
THKS! But about the IRC, i log on from my school's computer and they block it, pretty rare i'll ever log on @ home, but thks 4 the thought. Do u know anything about Leia that could b edited though?--Princess Leia Organa Skywalker Solo 10:53, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
Oh well, if u can give any advice on anything else, like planets or whatever i'd really appreciate it, may the force b with u.--Princess Leia Organa Skywalker Solo 15:58, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
Space Worrt
I'm queuing the Worrts for later analysis, but I'll eventually deal with the Space Worrt, either as a sub-class/race of Worrt or as an article itself. As you've linked to Space Worrt in your FAN, I suggest to avoid the ugly red font by pipe'ing it to [[Worrt/Legends|Space Worrt]] while the article on Space Worrts is in the making. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 11:32, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
Singing Christmas trees
Come see the singing Christmas trees, better hgury though, we have a 'FULL' house every year! http://www.thesingingchristmastrees.org/--Princess Leia Organa Skywalker Solo 17:00, November 9, 2009 (UTC)
Nosaurians
They are mentioned on page 168 of Galaxy at War. It is basically just stuff about the Battle of New Plympto, the only real new info us that there was a Nosaurian settlement on New Plympto called Rhigar, which was abandoned during the fighting --Jinzler 18:50, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
Titterbug
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Creating articles
When creating articles, please make sure you always include an Appearances and/or Sources list. Date articles are no exception. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:22, November 22, 2009 (UTC)
- OK. It was my first date article, so I wasn't sure. Thanks for the heads up. ~ SavageBob 21:31, November 22, 2009 (UTC)
Re: Alexem
No problem man, we all make mistakes sometimes :). Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 00:44, December 2, 2009 (UTC)
Alexem
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Atlas population map
I've noticed you have added several specific population values on the basis of the the Galactic Population map on pg. 17 of The Essential Atlas. Note that the map shows "population measured by average per inhabited planet per sector, with actual populations for key systems." Other than those key systems, the map doesn't tell us anything about the population of a specific world, other than what the average population of worlds in its vicinity average out to. jSarek 22:32, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
- No, Florn appears as a green dot on the map, so we know the population of that world. ~ SavageBob 23:16, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
- Shimia is there too, so I added a blurb to Pacithhip. I'll try to be sure not to add that info unless a specific system appears on the population map, so apologies if I've messed up somewhere or another. ~ SavageBob 23:19, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
- So it is; I don't know how I missed Florn getting its own dot. I'll blame the lighting in this room; feel free to revert me on that one. That said, I was also thinking about cases like the Quor'sav, which I had to reword to better match what the map actually tells us. jSarek 13:03, December 13, 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, on species like Quor'sav, I think it's much more questionable whether it's worth mentioning that map at all. I think from here on out, I'll only mention those systems that get their own dot. We can ditch the line in Quor'sav probably. ~ SavageBob 17:48, December 13, 2009 (UTC)
- So it is; I don't know how I missed Florn getting its own dot. I'll blame the lighting in this room; feel free to revert me on that one. That said, I was also thinking about cases like the Quor'sav, which I had to reword to better match what the map actually tells us. jSarek 13:03, December 13, 2009 (UTC)
Florn
Hey SavageBob, first off, let me say I wasn't trying to be confrontational, though it probably did come across that way. I actually second guessed my writing at the time! So I'm sorry if I offended you, I didn't mean to (just a stickler for grammar and I've had a lot of bad editing wars on here). Second, yeah, the aliens on here are at times drastically underrepresented and ignored... just like in many Star Wars products. Does it annoy you as well that most of the things out there are so humanocentric? --Demos Traxen 04:20, December 13, 2009 (UTC)
Underwater Dwellers
Hey SavageBob, if Clode Rhoden, Madam Rhoden, and Buck aren't Underwater Dwellers, then how come this "Dulok" seen in Star Wars Clone Wars is considered a Dulok. Who says he/she is a Dulok? Looks a lot like a Devlikk to me. You should check that.Thanks. 250px Pufferex Coleman 05:31, December 13, 2009 (UTC)User: Pufferex Coleman
All right. Point taken. Pufferex Coleman 05:42, December 13, 2009 (UTC)User: Pufferex Coleman
"Mr. Purple"
Since you knew about the Dulok, I wanted to ask you about this Purple-skinned Jedi. File: ChissJedip3.jpg What canon source says he's "Chiss-like." And why did (before I changed it) his page identify him as "Mr. Purple" ~~User: Pufferex Coleman
- I have no idea, as I have no involvement with that page whatsoever. Maybe check the history and see who originally wrote the article, then ask them? ~ SavageBob 22:40, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
Doodnik the Besalisk
Hey, SavageBob. If you look on Doodnik's Wookiepedia page, in the Behind the scenes section, everything is explained. --Simpson Homer 01:40, December 21, 2009 (UTC)User: Simpson Homer
- Thanks SavageBob. --Simpson Homer 01:40, December 21, 2009 (UTC)User: Simpson Homer
Re:Scroll boxes
Sure, no problem. I had actually borrowed the code from someone else a while ago anyway, so I don't deserve the credit. :p Grand Moff Tranner 20px (Comlink) 20:49, December 21, 2009 (UTC)
CT
Hey Bob. Just checking, on this CT it looks like you struck your vote, but you say you still want them kept separate. So are you just intending to strike your comment but keep your vote? Just so someone doesn't misinterpret one way or other :). Cheers, Grunny (Talk) 23:03, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, I wanted to strike the comment, not the vote. I've edited things so hopefully it's clearer. Thanks for bringing it to my attention! ~ SavageBob 00:17, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
Re: Review
Mostly just for the sake of HTML perfection, as I understand it. It really doesn't make a difference, which is why it's a minor issue, but our AWB clean-up bots will always do this as standard practice, and it's best to follow suit. Toprawa and Ralltiir 22:48, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
RE: Xagobah
Issue 56 only namechecks Xagobah on a map, no mention of the Xamsters. Sorry for the delay in the response, been a little busy IRL :) - Cavalier One20px(Squadron channel) 23:03, January 12, 2010 (UTC)
Frog-dog
It might be worth seeing if anyone has a copy of Super Star Wars Return of the Jedi: Official Players Guide. I plan to check 
"Super Return of the Jedi" — Star Wars Galaxy Magazine 2 to see if it mentions the big frog-dog. --Eyrezer 11:50, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
- I went ahead and made a Senate Hall thread. I wish Jaymach were still around; he seems to have everything! :) ~ SavageBob 16:32, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
- Nothing in the SWG article, although it does mention the Boss on top of the sail barge. Apparently, it was inspired/taken from the original sketches for ROTJ. Do you know who that Boss is? Jaymach has been back on IRC. I will ask him if I see him. --Eyrezer 04:12, January 14, 2010 (UTC)
Astromechs
As I recall, there is an overview of the entire astromech line, possibly up to R7. Give me a day or two to check properly for you :) - Cavalier One20px(Squadron channel) 21:18, January 19, 2010 (UTC)
Reptilian avian humanoids
As this is getting difficult, please give me a manipulative appendage here so that maybe together we can reach a wording that pleases everyone and at the same time respects all the sources. Here's the facts:
- Jedi Academy Sourcebook: The Vors are delicate hollow-bone reptilian avian humanoids who ride the winds on lacy wings"
- The Essential Guide to Alien Species: "Vors are hollow-boned, winged, reptilian creatures (...)".
- Ultimate Alien Anthology: "The Vors are a peaceful avian species"; also "Vors are reptilian avians".
- Dark Apprentice: "The Vors, hollow-boned humanoids with a rack..."
- Dark Tide II: Ruin: "The Vors themselves were a humanoid species of mammalian stock. Hollow-boned, ..."
- IMHO, avians (and as such birds) belong to the class Aves and as such are archosauria, which in turn are reptiles, so every avian is a reptile, but I know I'm not majority here.
I propose this: Vors were antropomorphic<JASB><DA> reptilian<JASB><EGA><UAA> avians<JASB><UAA> related to mammals.<DT2> What do you think? Skippy Farlstendoiro 19:07, January 20, 2010 (UTC)
- This is a toughie, isn't it? We can disregard the sources that only classify them as "humanoid," since that's a body type, not a classification. That leaves us with three votes for reptilian, two for avian, and one for mammalian. I think you could go with something like, "Vors were a species of humanoids with avian, mammalian, and reptilian characteristics.<reph summarizing the debacle and citing specific statements to specific sources.> I'm hesitant to favor any one interpretation above the others, or to call them anthropomorphic, since they implies more than just body shape. What do you think? I faced a similar issue with Quor'sav, and I think this is how I handled it. ~ SavageBob 00:46, January 21, 2010 (UTC)
Eodon
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Seyugi Dervishes
Please check and strike (if necessary) your last remaining objection to Seyugi Dervishes when you have time time. CC7567 (talk) 20:21, January 23, 2010 (UTC)
- Oops; done. Thanks for the reminder. ~ SavageBob 20:39, January 23, 2010 (UTC)
Star Wars Insider 83
In response to your message, I don't know about whether or not R3-M3 (then given the name R3-O1) was actually mentioned, as I don't have Star Wars Insider 83. R3-M3's bio on Yodapedia stated that last year, and that's where I got what I believed to be confirmation of the droid's being mentioned. Currently on the droid's Yodapedia page there is no mention of any Star Wars Insider 83, so to be honest I don't know. Hanzo Hasashi 22:06, January 24, 2010 (UTC)