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SavageBob welcome!

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Hi.

I just wanted to give you my welcome. And I just wanted to say that, from the quality of your edits, I can tell that you will be a great addition to our fair wiki. :) Adamwankenobi 22:51, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, Adam! I appreciate your kind words. I've noticed your name in the edit histories of many of the articles I'm interested in, so I'm sure we'll run into each other again! — SavageBob 22:53, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
Indeed we will. And, IMHO, Wookieepedia needs more pedants like yourself. ;) Adamwankenobi 23:00, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Alien Anthology -- thanks

Thanks for adding the contents to Alien Anthology! —Silly Dan (talk) 22:58, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

My pleasure! I've got a ton of old WEG stuff that I hope to be able to contribute from, too. — SavageBob 22:59, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Who/Whom

Hi, though it's not a big thing really, I just thought I'd note that so far, every time I've seen you change whom to who it's actually using improper English, and should in fact have stayed at whom. —Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 16:39, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

No, I don't think so. "The Bloggo is a sapient creature whom lived on the Forest Moon of Endor" is flat out wrong. Keep in mind that who is the subject pronoun, and whom is the object pronoun. Treat the clause as its own sentence and decide if the pronoun is replacing a subject or an object: "He lived on the Forest Moon of Endor" and "Him lived on the Forest Moon of Endor". Which is correct? Who is analogous to he, and whom is analogous to him. It's obviously he/who in this case. — SavageBob 16:44, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
It is Bob who is right ;-) KEJ 16:49, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
And it is I who am thanking you! (Or should that be "who is thanking you" . . .? :)) — SavageBob 16:53, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
The world would be a much better place without hypercorrection ;-) KEJ 16:59, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

External links/sources

Hey, Dan. I noticed your edit on Nimbanel changing an "External link" to a "source". I thought that "external links" were assumed to always be sources, just that they were separated out per the Appearances/Sources/External link trichotomy. This not so? — SavageBob 11:36, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

  • Yes, we decided by a narrow margin when constructing the layout guide back in November to treat articles on official websites (databank entries, WOTC web enhancements, etc.) under "sources," and reserve "External links" for Wikipedia articles, fansites, weblogs, etc., which may give useful information but are not necessarily canonical. —Silly Dan (talk) 12:00, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Pages of interest

I've seen your excellent work in improving the Ewok-related articles, and thought you might be interested in some of the children's books articles linked to at Ewok. A few days ago, I created place-holder articles for them. Keep up the good work! :) Adamwankenobi 23:14, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, Adam! I'm currently working on filling in the blanks for The Adventures of Teebo: A Tale of Magic and Suspense. The others would be nice to help with too, but I don't own any of those books. But who knows? Teebo was really cheap second-hand, so I'll keep an eye out for the others. — SavageBob 23:34, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Contact Details

Greetings...would it be possible to have some sort of contact details for you, besides this talk page? I've something to let you see, but I'm not legally allowed to post it here. —Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 13:31, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

I just put in an email address, but I won't be able to confirm it until later today. — SavageBob 13:47, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
Well if you have any way to contact me through other means than the Wookieepedia, I've left all my contact details on my own user page and I'd love to be able to send you the file, as it explains a lot of stuff you'll be interested in. —Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 13:51, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Characters > Dramatis personae

Many of the more recent Star Wars novels have began to use a "dramatis personae" list for the participants in the story. I've noticed that on Wookieepedia this has been applied to other types of media as well, so I thought it would be OK to apply it to the TV episodes so that everything would be uniform. I know that you were concerned that we may be "talking over" our readers, but because of the very fact that they come to this site in the first place, I doubt we're talking over them. ;) AdamwankenobiTalk to me! My home. 18:49, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm firmly against the idea (it's pedantic and elitist), but I'm willing to call a consensus track on it, if you want. — SavageBob 18:53, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
OK, fine with me. :) AdamwankenobiTalk to me! My home. 18:55, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
Done. See Forum:"Characters" or "Dramatis personae"?. — SavageBob 19:03, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Dried wank's hide

Hi Bob :-) I noticed you added "Dried wank's hide" to the Ewoks article a while back, and a few of us are curious as to whether this is for real or not. Could you shed some light on this? Thanks. --Azizlight 13:54, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Pacithhip

Great expansion of Pacithhip. Just a couple of things for the article. Can you source the infobox as well? (We generally require this) Secondly, did you come across any appropriate in-universe quotes that could be added to the article, particularly as a lead quote? --Eyrezer 15:44, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

  • No prob. Souring the infobox also includes individuals, but I was able to do that myself for this article. I've also added a few more sources. Both the Insider ones are only in relation to the SE changes so no new info there. You may like to have a look at the Jedi Force Files pages which can be found here. I think the only new piece of info was the ability to resist stun bolts which I've subsequently added. I haven't checked The Art of Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace, but I'll see if someone else here has access to it. Finally, I doubt the Ep 1 game has anything unique in it. I'll keep an eye out for quotes, myself. --Eyrezer 02:03, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
    • Ok, apparently the Art of Book only has images, such as this one. You may prefer it to one already in the article. --Eyrezer 02:21, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
    • Do you know which Claws of the Dragon they appear in? --Eyrezer 02:34, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Hey SavageBob. I recommend you nominate Pacithhip as a Featured article. We need more Species FAN. For what it's worth, you might also like to join this WookieeProject. We're not organized like some other projects but you're welcome. --Eyrezer 06:53, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
  • I see on the Pa'lowick article that The Vaynai Archipelago is no referenced at all, presumably because it only depicts a Pa'lowick in the background. You may like to include a line such as can be found on the Alzoc III article (Talz also traveled to worlds such as Phaeda,[37] Vaynai,[38] and Lok.[39]) as a way of including that info. --Eyrezer 23:55, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
  • With regard to images, Wookieepedia tries for alternating left and right alignment. This means that even if you want to keep the Lutrillians looking inward, you need to follow this pattern. I just thought I explain that. --Eyrezer 16:38, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
    • That's a silly rule, especially when it violates core concepts of layout design. But I guess a rule's a rule, as daft as it may be . . . . SavageBob 00:55, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Lutrillia image

Hey, SavageBob; I fixed the image on the Lutrillia article. You just forgot to put the [[ ]] brackets around it. - Cavalier One(Squadron channel) 13:16, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Ah, thanks! SavageBob 13:17, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Ecclessis Figg

I appreciate the quotes in Figg, but after mulling them a bit I decided to take them out; I don't think they really add anything to the article, just sort of repeat what it already says. Hope you don't mind. - Lord Hydronium 11:10, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

  • Upon further discussion, removing it was a little premature; it wasn't doing any harm, so sorry if it seemed like I was just blanket-reverting all changes. Anyway, I went with another quote that I thought was a little more interesting. - Lord Hydronium 11:30, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
    • Well, quotes are as much about adding color as they are about adding new information, so I hope you keep at least a quote or two in the article, regardless of whether they're ones I added or not! :) SavageBob 12:36, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Lutrillian

Hey, Bob. I meant to point out a few things per those ambig/non-canon appearances. I think it would be best if you could add whatever information you can take from them to the History section; i.e., "A Lutrillian appeared at Horn Station, etc." Both of these appearances fall within Tales 1-20, which we treat as ambiguous, but still add to the article proper, rather than just ignoring them outright. If you look at the early History section of the Luke Skywalker article, you'll see the "Tales 1-20" tag, which can be applied to the Lutrillian article for this specific information. But if you truly feel the Emperor's Court thing should be treated as non-canon, and I'll admit it sounds pretty ridiculous, I think it would be best to add a sentence or two to the BTS explaining that a Lutrillian appears in the crowd at the trial of Solo, etc., but that the article treats it as non-canon because of its silliness, etc. Toprawa and Ralltiir 06:06, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

  • Apparently, you're also missing info from the Millennium Falcon novel. A Lutrillian(s) does have a role in the story, I noticed, while flipping through the book today. I've removed the Mentioned only tag from the Appearances list. Toprawa and Ralltiir 01:11, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
    • Oh, really? I don't have access to that book. Would you mind adding any pertinent info to the article? --SavageBob 05:54, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
    • Ah, never mind. The book is searchable on Amazon, so I was able to read the part where the Lutrillian character appears. Too bad there are no quotes that could be used! SavageBob 08:19, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Tynnan

Hey SavageBob. Thanks for the Tynnan review, and now the vote. However, just a note as to how the FAN page should work. You shouldn't vote for my article until you've stricken all your objections. At the mo, the one about Tynnans in the galaxy is still open. Similarly, even though I said I'd fix it, you shouldn't strike your objection to the Biology section until I've actually done it. At the mo, I intend to get a round to it when I've done with exams - within the next week or so. Cool? As to the substance of the TitG section, that amount of detail is what I've always done. Check some of my other species FAs to compare if you'd like (Lepi, Tunroth, etc). This being the case, I think the content is defendable and legitimate. Feel free to discuss it further with me here or on my talk page, if you like. --Eyrezer 06:24, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

  • Ah, I just saw your note in the comments section. Often if ppl have a suggestion that is not an objection per se, it can be put there directly. That removes the need for striking etc. --Eyrezer 06:26, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
    • Oh, dear. I now see you made some edits yourself that may have resolved your objection to the biology section. <Shakes head> --Eyrezer 06:31, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
      • Yeah, I hope everything's OK . . . I had a printout in front of me to copy edit and decided to add a few lines on the biology issues I'd raised. I'm a big fan of the collaborationist aspect of Wikis, so I hope I haven't stepped on any toes. I'll move my remaining "objections" to the comments section as you recommended. Good luck on the exams! SavageBob 07:35, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
        • No toes stepped on here. It is actually very nice to have some people be proactive in solving their objections. I appreciate it. So you now think the Bio objection is all solved? --Eyrezer 22:55, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
        • Oh, yeah. As far as I'm concerned, the bio objection is no longer an issue. I thought I struck it; let me check and make sure though. --SavageBob 04:06, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Fact Files

SavageBob; I have the articles on Gragra and waste disposal, and should be able to track down the one on the R4 units. The only one I can find no reference to is AST4, and the link you provided is a redlink, so I can't work out what its meant to be (a droid possibly?). I can provide you with scans of the pages - just send an email through my wiki account with your email address, and I'll post it to you as soon as I can. - Cavalier One20px(Squadron channel) 01:38, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Re:Lutrillian

  • The listing came about as result of the 22nd Inquisitorius meeting, which you can find the logs of on the WP:INQ page. Specifically, information from three sources was listed as missing. The log is here. Cheers. Atarumaster88 20px (Talk page) 02:18, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
    • If he's only shown that one time, with no other information, then you should place {{Po}} on the appearances list by that appearance. That, combined with the explanation you've given me, should satisfy the Inq. If there is more information, though, you should add it, of course. Atarumaster88 20px (Talk page) 03:57, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Email

Sorry, SavageBob; I should have mentioned I'm not around much on the weekends. I have the FF scans for you, so I'm going to package them up and send them over to you sometime today. - Cavalier One20px(Squadron channel) 08:41, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

No problems. Let me know if you need anything else, and I'll be happy to oblige. - Cavalier One20px(Squadron channel) 22:24, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Insider

Afraid not, at least not the early issues. Insider wasn't published in the UK until recently—we had our own Star Wars Magazine that, while it had Insider info in, differed from its American counterpart. Recently, Insider is being published here, but for earlier stuff you're better off asking one of the American contributors or in IRC. - Cavalier One20px(Squadron channel) 08:39, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Gragra

By the looks of it, when I sent you the package, I included issue 89's pages anyway, which were the first two Gragra pages. The stuff from 99 was about the Gorg farming. I'll double check tho, just to be sure. - Cavalier One20px(Squadron channel) 08:31, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Re:Lutrillian and Swokes Swokes

  • I'll take a look at the Swokes Swokes objections now. As for the Lutrillian thing, it will be re-discussed at the next Inquisitorius meeting, probably in February, but if you've taken care of everything there, it shouldn't have any problems. As for being new, don't worry about it at all. I'm glad to see that you're trying your hand at FA, and doing pretty well with it. Keep up the good work, and don't fret; we were all new once. ;-) Cheers. Atarumaster88 20px (Talk page) 00:32, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Swokes Swokes

Hey, Bob. Can you please explain for me how exactly the species appears in the Episode I novel? You list "(unnamed)," and I'm curious what that means exactly, since it's not something we typically leave in Source lists. Thanks. Toprawa and Ralltiir 06:20, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, the novel features the scene where Jar Jar grabs the gorg and then gets in the fight with Sebulba. The gorgmonger isn't named or described, but has a speaking role, and we can assume it's Gragra based on the film. That was my thinking anyway. ~ SavageBob 12:53, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Because it was your FAN that you promoted to successful FA, I just wanted to let you know about a couple edits I made to the page today. I replaced the infobox image with one I had with a cleaned background. Also, I removed the haircolor from the infobox. If it was none, then it should simply be left blank anyway, but if you look closely as the Swokes Swokes in the Wildlife of Star Wars image, you'll see he/she does have a small amount of wispy strangly hair on their head. Just wanted to let you know. - JMAS Hey, it's me! 20:02, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

OK, thanks for the heads up! ~ SavageBob 22:18, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Squib Merchandising

Heh, I was waiting for a response on the talk page. I'd put up a merge template right after you created the article with a question as to why you had decided it was necessary to have two different pages. After a few hours and no response, I figured you agreed, so I redirected it. My reasoning is that it seems very clear to me that the two are in fact the same. They're both the same type of organization, and their names are almost exactly the same, save for the "Consortium" part. I don't think that's really a big enough reason to keep them separate, especially since other companies, when mentioned, usually leave off the full name, excluding words like "corporation", "conglomerate", and "consortium". Since the Databank usually serves to sum up canonical information, we can be positive that "Squib Merchandising" was referring to the big company that they created, "Squib Merchandising Consortium". The only reason I can think to keep them separate is if we're just being incredibly anal about it. Almost like creating a separate article for "Koensayr" because the entry for the Y-wing in the Databank doesn't mention "Koensayr Manufacturing" specifically. Besides, I don't think you really think they're separate, since the article you created said, "Squib Merchandising was a Squib-owned corporation that specialized in selling refurbished garbage." The Databank entry doesn't mention that "Squib Merchandising" sold garbage. That's only from the GG. :P Cull Tremayne 07:23, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

  • Hey, just saw your template at the top. My bad, just too used to responding directly to people's talk pages. Cull Tremayne 07:27, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
    • Actually, yes. I'd recommend merging that one too. That one might be less obvious, since it's only a branch of Squib Merchandising, and the Databank treats it separate. However, since the entry was probably written by Pablo Hidalgo, a Squibbian fan, I think we can be really close to 100% positive that he's referring to the Squib Reclamation Fleet, and not just creating a new company. Also, it's probably better to be consistent and merge them both rather than redirect the one and not the other. Cull Tremayne 18:55, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Re: User talk:Graestan

When I am going through and archiving Senate Hall forums from more than a few days ago, I delete anything that isn't about the site itself instead of adding it to the archive, because the Senate Hall is mainly for discussing the workings of the site itself, and users searching through the archives shouldn't have to wade through such topics as where to find a source. It would simply get too thick. Graestan(Talk) 22:40, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

FF queries

I'll take a look at your request; please be patient, though, as I am in the process of moving house over the next few weeks and may be extremely busy. As for the index - if you can find it, get it. However, it does not list articles by issue, which is a pain. - Cavalier One20px(Squadron channel) 12:58, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Well, the index should work like that :P I can look up Pacithhip and possibly find several other mentions, but I might not, since its very incomplete. For example, the index has no listing for Horton Salm, but I found several mentions of him just by looking through files relevant to him. - Cavalier One20px(Squadron channel) 13:48, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Re:Squib

Objection stricken. Thanks so much. You're doing an excellent job with these articles, and I applaud you. I hope to find some time to actually review this one; my apologies if not. Toprawa and Ralltiir 17:41, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Light and Dark and Soulsaber

  • They are mentioned in the adventure summary of Child of Light that appears in both of them, on page 21 of Soulsaber and page 23 of Light and Dark. Neither of them add any new information --Jinzler 12:08, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Lutrillian

I was just making an offhand joke about the incomplete link. :P Graestan(Talk) 13:06, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

  • Oh, and for the record, I don't intend to whip you, either. I was hoping that bit would give away that I wasn't actually displeased, just teasing. Inq meetings are full of false bluster; it's Inq culture. Graestan(Talk) 13:23, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
    • The link itself was incomplete, that's all. No worries, indeed. :P Graestan(Talk) 22:26, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Re: From Pencil to Pixel

Hi SavageBob, there's not much information about Duloks in the book, just a few sentences and a few images:

"Duloks, evil 'cousins' to the Ewoks, first appeared in the cartoons (refers to screenshot of a Dulok from the cartoons and this image). The team tranlated these images into more fearsome concepts (refers to two SWG Dulok concept artworks) and the final in-game model (refers to an image of a SWG Dulok game model). Some Duloks live in "boulder villages" (refers to a screenshot of a Dulok village in SWG)."

There's also another Dulok tribe in Galaxies, the Korga (should be listed in the strategy guides, I think). Some of them live in the Korga Cave. Here's the Allakhazam entry for the cave, although the site first refers to Duloks as Ewoks for some reason.

Great article, by the way ! --Craven 22:44, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Fact Files? Not me

Alas, I *wish* I had all the Fact Files, but I, in fact, have zero Fact Files. :-( I think either Jaymach or Borsk Fey'lya are probably your best bets for this search. Good luck. :-) jSarek 07:08, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Marvel Lutrillian

Hey, Bob. I believe I've spotted a Lutrillian in the Marvel comic Star Wars 76, during the scene where Luke, Leia, and Kiro are fighting off the School mob, if you're familiar with that story at all. You might want to look into this. :) Toprawa and Ralltiir 03:41, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Oh, cool. I'll take a look. Thanks! ~ SavageBob 04:53, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
Well, I read through the issue, and I'm not sure it's a Lutrillian. On the page where the mob first attacks, it certainly looks like one, but check five pages later. The same character appears, and at that angle, looks less Lutrillian than before. What do you think? It's tempting to call it a Lutrillian, but the fact that the artist seems to be doing his own thing and not using movie aliens as reference might indicate that this is just a coincidence... ~ SavageBob 00:20, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
More food for thought: It might also be a Thakwaash rather than a Lutrillian. ~ SavageBob 05:46, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I see the Thakwaash resemblance, and I didn't realize they were so similar looking. Given that, you're right that it's impossible to tell. Would have been nice, though! Toprawa and Ralltiir 16:44, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Ping?

Hey, SavageBob; sorry, but I didn't realize you pinged me earlier. Must have gotten a bunch of messages in one hit and overlooked yours. Apologies! Things are a bit up in the air at the moment since I'm packing for my move at the end of the month, but I promise I'll get to it by the end of the week. I'm sure I have all the entries you're requesting, although I might not have issue 93. I'm missing one issue, and it's in the nineties, but I can never remember which one. - Cavalier One20px(Squadron channel) 12:49, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Shape-shifters and Ugors

I see you're looking for info on Ugors from "Shape-shifters." The relevant text from the article is in several places. The first is in a message from Major Vontenn to Obo Rin; the last paragraph of that message reads:

While you have compiled reports in the past regarding certain aliens that fall under the classification amorphic, like the wretched Ugors, you are ordered to compile information about the Proteans, the Polydroxol, the Stennes Shifters, and the Shi'ido. Please complete your research as promptly as possible. Do your best to separate the myth from the reality.

Later, we have a bit of text from Rin discussing shapeshifters in general, which mentions Ugors twice. First, it's a discussion of human prejudice regarding shape-shifters:

Firstly, human prejudice has painted the role of deceptive killer on all shape-shifting beings. While some species like the Stennes may be warranted of this stereotype, most shape-shifters are unfairly tarred with this epithet. The Proteans and Ugors have great appetites, and must kill for sustenance, but this does not make them cold-blooded killers. Due to a lack of available information, paranoia has painted in the ignorance with fear.

Secondly, he's discussing the limits of each species shape-shifting:

The amorphic shape-shifters, like the Ugors and Polydroxol, find the humanoid form difficult to maintain. These beings can make do with blob-like forms, without having to exude the redundant and complex extremities of the humanoid form.

That's the full extent of mentions of Ugors I can find in the article. jSarek 10:32, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Wow, thanks! This should all definitely be added to the article. What are the page numbers for those mentions? ~ SavageBob 10:59, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
The first quote is on pg. 160, the second is on 176, and the third on 177. jSarek 20:55, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Skor II

  • I just have one last "objection", that of adding a mention of Holador. Just thought I'd point it out here to get your attention. :) --Eyrezer 11:28, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
    • OK, thanks for the heads up. I just got back from spring break, so I'll get on it soon! ~ SavageBob 12:00, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

NJO

Presuming you are talking about the Jew Jedi Order as the institution, I think only "NJO era" is OOU. So if you wanted to say, "while the NJO was active" or whatever, that should be fun. Chack Jadson (Talk) 14:52, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

A Guide to the Star Wars Universe (Third Edition)

I noticed you were looking for this and was having trouble finding someone that has this. I did a quick search and found the Havac has it listed in his collection, so you might want to try contacting him. In the future, if you need to find someone with a particular book, many users (including myself) list their collection on their userpage or a subpage, and, if they linked each item to the appropriate article, you can quickly find them by going to the article for the item you need, clicking "What links here" in the sidebar, and selecting the "User" namespace from the dropdown list at the top of the page. Remember, though, that some users do list items they don't have (such as my list of books I've checked out from the library in the past), so be sure to read the page and ensure that they actually have it. Master JonathanJedi Council Chambers 04:51, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Those are very good tips; thanks! I'll ask Havac about it now. ~ SavageBob 11:50, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
  • Dulok: This lanky, unkempt, bug-infested species is distantly related to the Ewoks. In general, Duloks are nasty, bad-tempered, and untrustworthy. A large Dulok tribe lives in a village in the marshlands of Endor's forest moon.
  • No Pacithhip, Pa'lowick, or Skor II entries.
  • Squib: Small, furry bipeds with tufted ears, large eyes, short muzzles, and black noses. Their fur ranges in color from deep red to brilliant blue. From the world of Skor II, these fearless nomads roam the galaxy in reclamation ships, using tractor beams to salvage junk -- which they consider treasure. The Squibs have an intense rivalry with the Ugors, as both try to claim salvage before the other. Squibs are overconfident and curious, sometimes even overbearing and uppity. They love to haggle, a practice that they have turned into an art form. The more complicated and convoluted a deal a Squib can strike, the better they like it.
  • Ugor: A species of intelligent unicellular protozoans. Ugors grow as large as one meter in diameter. They can extrude up to thirty pseudopodia at a time, some of which contain visual and other sensory growths, or even openings and membranes that allow them to speak. Ugors move by oozing from place to place or by controlling specialized environment suits built with two arms and legs. They come from a star system called Paradise, a junk-filled asteroid field that they administer. To them, garbage is holy. Every pieces of junk is a religious relic. They had an exclusive contract with the Empire to collect garbage jettisoned from Imperial fleet ships and store it in their garbage-dump system. Gambling, bargaining, and cheating are the high moral standards the Ugors live by. Other scavenger species, like the Squib [sic], are considered business rivals to be crushed and eliminated.
  • There you go. Sorry it took so long. Havac 23:31, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
    • Awesome, thanks! That's a big help. ~ SavageBob 00:30, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Species sourcing

My prose grows too much to simply put it in the nomination... I'm having this trouble with the sourcing of an article about a species. Many sources and appearances mention only an individual Roor, and give no valuable information about the Sneevel species. Those books and so must be mentioned in the bibliography, but not neccessarily in the body of the article. Eg: Databank's entry for Ben Quadinaros mentions Roor, repeating what we know from other sources. If you want, I'll be exhaustive and make sure that each and any of the items in the bibliography is mentioned at least once in the body of the article (as soon as I can get the info in Rebel Target and in the Fact Files; I've asked some people for it, currently waiting).--Skippy Farlstendoiro 07:25, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, that can be a problem, especially when a species is mainly known from one member. Be careful; sometimes even appearances or mentions of the same old character can yield new information. Maybe Roor gets punched in a comic book or something and we learn that Sneevels have green blood or something. Just keep your eyes open for stuff like that! I had a similar issue with Swokes Swokes and all the appearances of Gragra. I think I noted in the footnotes that sources x, y, and z were simply appearances of Gragra or mentioned Gragra and provided no new material on the species. Ah, yes, check Note 31 of the Swokes Swokes article. Perhaps you could do the same with Sneevel and Boles Roor's mentions? ~ SavageBob 11:18, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Rebel Force: Sneevel

  • They attack Han, while he, Chewbacca, and Elad are in a bar on Mygeeto. They all get into a fight because they were all making fun of Luke because of the way he podraced. Thats ALL it says about Sneevels. This is the direct line: "...ducking just in time for two charging Sneevels to miss him and crash into each other." If you have Rebel Force: Target, look on top of page 157.--Darth Revanon 22:51, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Tulgah

Hi Bob. You have the plural of Tulgah in your Dulok article as "Tulgahs". I would have thought the plural would simply be "Tulgah". Do you know if the plural has ever been seen in text before? --Eyrezer 05:16, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Hmm. "Castaways of Endor" always uses it as an adjective, so it's no help. But The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia does have an entry, and you're right: the plural and singular are the same. I'll fix it. Good catch! ~ SavageBob 06:09, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Cool. --Eyrezer 02:38, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Apology

No problems, SavageBob. I'm currently working through both of your requests now, and hope to have them both finished up in the next day or two. - Cavalier One20px(Squadron channel) 07:06, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Sneevel's Featured Article Nomination - Outstanding Objection

It has come to my attention that I jumped the gun on queuing Sneevel. A review of the nomination shows that there was one objection from you (The one concerning Fact Files information) that was left unstruck. Now, I'm not sure the protocol with this, being I don't think it's ever happened before, so I'm kind of flying by the seat of my pants. Would you look over your objection and the article and then leave a message somewhere with either a strike or further comments? Thank you in advance, and sorry for the slip up. JorrelWiki-shrinkableFraajic 15:45, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

  • I suppose I should also put a link to the nomination archive page, since that would be both Helpful and Courteous. :P JorrelWiki-shrinkableFraajic 15:48, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
    • It appears that the objection has been addressed, so I'll strike out my objection. Thanks for bringing it to my attention! ~ SavageBob 13:33, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Lamproid

You must, I repeat, MUST get that image of the action figure Lamproid into the article! I refer to this one from RebelScum.com. It is amazing! --Eyrezer 02:40, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

  • Darth Culator pointed me to this link which might provide better images. --Eyrezer 02:46, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
    • Yeah, I think it should definitely be in the BTS section. But I'm not sure about this -- are we allowed to use their images like that? It would be better (and less legally ambiguous) if one of our users took a photo and uploaded it. Or is it OK to just grab one from RebeScum? ~ SavageBob 09:35, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
      • I really have no idea. I'm fairly certain we've used their images before. Presumably so long as we credit them on the image info page it should be ok. --Eyrezer 12:14, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
        • I poked around a bit, and I couldn't find anything we've explicitly used from them except for packaging images and one carded figure image. The latter also had a warning from Ozzel that we shouldn't use their stuff without their permission. I think I'll play it safe on this one. Maybe I'll start a thread asking someone to please photograph their own Ibegon figure. ~ SavageBob 01:41, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
          • If you can contact him, you might be able to get the poster of this image to offer use to us. This might be easier to negotiate than with Rebel Scum. Although he may still be lacking a leg, lol. (He also posted this one.) --Eyrezer 04:27, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
            • How would you feel about moving the article to Lamproid with a redirect from Florn Lamproid? My reasoning is that given Florn is their homeworld, it seems analogous to the Iridonian Zabrak, which we have at Zabrak. The Lamproids are apparently on multiple worlds, so it seems more appropriate to remove the Florn descriptor, given that they are called both in canon and we need to choose one for the primary namespace. --Eyrezer 05:59, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
              • I almost moved it to Lamproid myself, but I decided against it mostly out of conservatism, I guess (not wanting to step on anyone's toes). If you agree, though, we should probably just go ahead and move the thing for the reasons you mention above. ~ SavageBob 10:41, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
                • Sweet. Let's do it! --Eyrezer 11:14, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
                  • Looks good! I'll put up a request for an action figure image at the Senate Hall. ~ SavageBob 23:37, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

WP:AS

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Eyrezer has awarded you a Wookiee Cookie!
For giving new life to WookieeProject: Aliens with your recent noms.
Cool, thanks! It's my first! ~ SavageBob 22:38, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Nosaurian

thumb|left|Stats! thumb|right|Winner! Hello, Bob. I've notice you've been working with the Nosaurians, and I wanted to provide you with these two images from Star Wars Episode I: Racer; maybe you can find use for any of them. I would appreciate to see any reference to the stats in the text. Sorry for the quality, that's what I can provide just now. Have a nice day, --Skippy Farlstendoiro 12:24, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Oh, nice. This is good information for BTS. Thanks for the help! ~ SavageBob 22:39, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Ugor

They are mentioned on page 34 of the second edition of GG2. I don't know if they are mentioned in the first edition as well, though --Jinzler 20:10, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Polis Massan, why don't people simply say Polis Massan? ;)

Short answer: Everything fine, thanks for asking. A pity, but as of now Kallidahin simply couldn't be a FA; or at least I couldn't make one of it.

Long answer: See your e-mail (Incidentally, this answer is shorter than the short one but only here).

--Skippy Farlstendoiro 08:01, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Dulok

I'm only writing you to congratulate for the FA of the Dulok. Great job, you are an inspirations for sentients like me. ·:) --Skippy Farlstendoiro 08:55, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh, this is the first I've seen that it was made a FA! Thanks for the kind words, and I'm glad to see some good's coming out of all this "wasted time!" :) By the way, I've got a copy of Sic-Six printed out and marked up with comments, but real life has gotten several times busier of late, so it may be a few more days before I can post them. Sorry for the delay! ~ SavageBob 22:22, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

A couple of things

I added a new appearance for Nosaurians - two appear in the background of Star Wars Invasion 1: Refugees, Part 1. While I was there, I saw that Star Wars Insider 64 was on the source list but no article specified. Can you add that detail? About Fleebog, I'm actually wondering whether it is more appropriate to place in the Bts the bit about them not being from Endor. I haven't had the chance to check how specific the CoE or GatOR wording is, but it may be a bit OR to assert so clearly that they are not from Endor. The hyperspace anomoly etc all backs it up, but I think that may go more to evidence for a Bts. --Eyrezer 02:47, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the note about Nosaurians. I'll have to track down that comic and add the info from it. As for the natives of Endor thing, I thought it was pretty well established that the only natives of Endor are supposed to be the Ewoks, Yuzzums, and Duloks, but, yeah, I was hard pressed to find a source that right-out says that. I personally have no problem with the Fleebog entry the way it is, but I can see where you're coming from. What do you think? Should I change it to more uncertain wording? (Hopefully the Star Wars Atlas will make things explicit about what Endor's native sentients are!) ~ SavageBob 05:06, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Fleebog

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Fleebog has been approved by the AgriCorps and awarded Good status. Feel free to add the {{User GA}} template to your userpage to acknowledge your hard work. The AgriCorps thanks you for your efforts, and looks forward to future nominations from you! — CC7567 (talk) 04:48, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
  • Sorry about that; I was a bit disoriented when I was archiving your nom. Also, I accidentally put "Removing unsuccessful nom" in the edit summary for the GAN page when I removed Fleebog; sorry for the confusion. CC7567 (talk) 04:48, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
    • No worries! Glad to see it's been passed. :) ~ SavageBob 00:35, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Sic-Six Pack

Take your time; there's no deadline or anything. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 12:55, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Re: Fleeblog

Nothing in the Layout Guide stipulates the use of that section title. The Layout Guide does say that the "in the galaxy" section may be incorporated into the previous "History" section, in which case, by our current standards, it would be appropriate to leave it as simply "History." I'm not going to continue an edit war with you, but if WookieeProject Aliens wants to start a new trend, they need to take this to a CT discussion to change the Layout Guide. Toprawa and Ralltiir 15:17, 7 July 2009 (UTC)