Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Sneevel/Legends

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Sneevel

  • Nominated by: Skippy Farlstendoiro 08:17, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Previously GA, exceeded the 1000-word mark while checking oppositions for the nomination.

(5 Inqs/1 Users/6 Total)

Support

  1. Inqvote I dig the opening quote. Thefourdotelipsis 10:44, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. Inqvote—Tommy Dark side Master SWGTCG (Nine two eight one) 12:02, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
  3. Inqvote --Eyrezer 23:39, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
  4. Darth Trayus Sith Emblem (Trayus Academy) 19:28, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
  5. Inqvote Chack Jadson (Talk) 00:47, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
  6. Inqvote Lord Hydronium 00:32, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
  7. ~ SavageBob 13:34, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Object

  1. From the Trayus Academy in sunny Malibu, CA
    • Fifty-one word intro can definitly be expanded.
      • Done, see if you like it.
    • Use of the term "egotistic" is a bit POVish.
      • Done, albeit not by me.
    • Bit of context on podracing and why it was dangerous couldn't hurt. Same for Horizon Skimming.
      • Done; you know as much about H.S. as I do: Sneevels have made great inroads into exploration (...), scientific experimentation (...), dangerous sports (like Podracing and horizon skimming), and creative fields such as fiction, holovids, music and visual arts.--Skippy Farlstendoiro 13:19, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
    • Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) Sith Emblem01:53, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. Prepare to be Savaged...
    • Nice to see another alien species article up at FAN! I think this one is pretty good. It needs a bit more expansion, spit, and polish, and I think it will be ready. Here are my concerns:
      • The lead section should be expanded to about two paragraphs. Expand on what's there now and then split it wherever it seems most logical to do so. Take a look at other alien species FAs for ideas on how to do this.
        • Increased, see if you like it.
      • The "Biology and appearance" section can be expanded some more. Currently, it seems like you are only repeating information that appears in text form in the sources, but don't forget the source images as well! From pictures of Roor in Podracing Tales, for example, we can tell that Sneevels have five fingers and toes, claws, and tails, and just from the infobox, we can see they have pug noses, hairy brows, and upward-pointing canines. In other words, take a good, hard look at all published images of Sneevels and expand the "Biology and appearance" section with what you see.
        • Have a look; notice that Roor is the only Sneevel who has seen graphically-depicted. I'm trying not to assume that his traits are, or are not, the norm. That thing braiding his mane might be a jewel, or a natural external bone of the species.
          • Looks good. I've copy edited it a bit; hope you don't mind! I agree with not treating Roor as representative; that'd be like treating Keith Richards as representative of the human species on Earth, I think. ~ SavageBob 03:47, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
      • "They excelled at creative fields, including visual arts, holovid, and music." Holovid what? Production? Acting? Please elaborate.
        • Not specified in source; reworded.
      • "Like many Sneevels, Roor was rude in person". If this is a common species trait, it should be mentioned under "Society and culture" as well.
        • Added.
          • Better, but that whole paragraph would fit better under "Society and culture," sice all Sneevels act like that, not just the ones off Sneeve. ~ SavageBob 06:34, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
      • "Sneeve senator Jollin Resbin was mentioned in the galaxy-wide press as of 22 BBY." This sounds awkward, and I'm not sure what the point is of mentioning this. Could you clarify?
        • Clarified?
      • I'm confused about the info in "Behind the scenes" concerning Roor's appearance in The Phantom Menace. Was a CG character design created, but just didn't make the final cut of the film? It would be helpful to know when the character was designed and by whom, whether it was the production team on TPM or the video game folks, or the comic book folks.
        • Puppet; designer added; sculptor unknown.
      • Is Boles Roor a playable character in Star Wars: Episode I Racer? If so, this would be good to mention under BTS, along with general info about how he compares to the other racers (faster or stronger or whatever). (Likewise for any other video games he's in.)
        • I commonly tried to include that kind of information in the body (Roor is a bad mechanic in the games), commonly including gaming stats for video games and RPG games; added to BTS; I still think that info should only be in Roor's article.
      • It looks like not all sources and appearances are referenced in the body of the article. Please comb through them again to see if you can glean any information from them and add them to the citations.
      • It's likely that Roor and the Sneevels are mentioned in the Fact Files. There are several FFs about the podracers of TPM. Please check (or ask someone to check) so that we can ensure that all sources are listed and used.
    • I've added a few other comments below that are merely suggestions, so please check there too and follow as you see fit. Good work, and I hope to see this one get its star soon! ~ SavageBob 02:04, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
  3. One eight two nine:
    • "In 13,975 BBY, Duros explorers discovered Sneeve, and the Sneevels joined the galactic community." What does the Duros' arrival have to do with the Sneevels' joining the galactic community? Please provide some context.
      • Added
    • "Resbin had personal contact with superstar Roor, by then retired, and he used the connection to his advantage." What does this have to do anything? It doesn't to seem to fit into the surrounding prose.—Tommy Dark side Master SWGTCG (Nine two eight one) 12:52, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
      • It made more sense in the first draft; in fact, I think it's no longer relevant for the species' article (Roor's and Resbin's article should include that info, thou). --Skippy Farlstendoiro 06:59, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
  4. Four Dot:
    • "When Sneevels were disgruntled, they released a black-colored gas that rose in a spiral from their heads." - Is there a text source for this, or is it just based on the comic book imagery? I only ask this because it is fairly common, in comic strips, for disguntled characters to display a black spiral of "gas", and I'm pretty sure that's what it is in Podracing Tales.
      • Your insight serves you well; that's it — but it's still a canonical black spiral. Imagine that the only source featuring a Sneevel in the dark is a toon-style comic-book where the eyes glow as in Bugs Bunny (common in toon style, infrequent in "live-action style"). Then, we could say (and source) that the eyes of a Sneevel visibly glow in the dark. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 09:10, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
        • We could, but we probably shouldn't. What if the only instance of a Sneevel actually speaking is in a comic? Would we say that "Sneevels, when speaking, would emit a large white bubble, featuring a black outline and a short, sharp protrusion pointing into the speaker's mouth. Within the large white bubble was the speaker's words, rendered in the alternate Basic alphabet." Or, alternatively, "When moving at a rapid speed, the Sneevel would leave behind parallel lines that would later dissipate." I don't mean to be snarky here, but you see what I mean. Thefourdotelipsis 09:16, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
          • Line removed, even if I 100% disagree with your POV. I still believe the opening crawl means that, sometimes, there's a spacial phenomena causing the appearance of yellow characters in the vacuum. And a four-dot elipsis. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 09:42, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
    • Perhaps a brief mention of the Empire's rise to power in the Republic's stead following the Clone Wars when you first mention the Empire would be useful.
      • Reworded. Also, background for Separatist Crisis.
    • "These latter two articles are taken to be canonical, as they are the more recently published." - Not quite how it works, perhaps it's better if you say that for the purposes of the article, the more recent sources are being used. Thefourdotelipsis 08:08, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
  5. Can you expand the intro at all? I really feel that a longer intro is needed. Chack Jadson (Talk) 12:31, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Featured article by Inquisitorius 00:32, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

  • Was there anything to add from Rebel Force: Target? --Eyrezer 08:35, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
  • Just a few additional ideas:
    • Boles Roor has a fairly significant role in Podracing Tales. Might there be a few more quotes from him that could be peppered through the article?
    • Similarly, Podracing Tales shows a few full-body images of Roor. One of these would be great to drop into either the infobox or the "Biology and appearance" section.
      • Any preference?
        • Actually, I like the one you've got in there with the guitar-like instrument. However, take a look at these two images here and here. The first would be better for the infobox, since it's a full-body shot, and the second would be good for the BTS section. Both were uploaded by Sompeetalay on the .nl wiki; if he can tell us where he got them (the source), we could upload them here and use them. If you agree, maybe drop him a line on his talk page either here or at .nl? ~ SavageBob 23:50, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
    • Although they're not required, I always find page numbers very helpful when reading through a notes section. If you could add them, that'd be great, but it's up to you! ~ SavageBob 02:04, 10 April 2009 (UTC)