Talk: Plume Tray

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Phoenix Squadron

I assume you want them to be merged because of something from Rebel Starfighters Owners' Workshop Manual, what does it say? --Lewisr (talk) 17:35, November 27, 2019 (UTC)

Not because of the manual (although don't have access to it to check anymore, as it was a sneaky peak before being wrapped up for Christmas). Both articles mention the battle of Jakku, just thought maybe it was unnecessary to have a seperate article. Plume Tray (talk) 17:53, November 27, 2019 (UTC)
- Ah I see fair enough! The pages were seperated until we have evidence that they are the same squadrons --Lewisr (talk) 18:01, November 27, 2019 (UTC)

BT-45D‎

Hey! Rather than copy and paste what was on BT-45D‎ and then create the new page of BT-45D‎ U-wing, all you had to do was simply move the original page to the new one. Just letting you know so you know for the future! --Lewisr (talk) 13:06, November 28, 2019 (UTC)

For some reason, I thought only admins could do that, but then I realised that was canon/legends switches. Doh! Thanks for reminding me. Plume Tray (talk) 13:25, November 28, 2019 (UTC)
- Haha no worries all is good! --Lewisr (talk) 13:34, November 28, 2019 (UTC)

Warning

This is a general warning for you, do not copy paste articles. The article The Pilot and the Rebellion is just a copy paste from the Legends version with just a couple of words changed. If you continue to do this you may be blocked from editing. Be more careful--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 03:07, December 1, 2019 (UTC)

Signing

Please remember to sign your comments using four tildes ~~~~. Thanks. 1358 ^(Talk) 13:00, December 13, 2019 (UTC)

Apologies, I usually do and I thought I had done. I'll be more careful in future. Plume Tray (talk) 13:14, December 13, 2019 (UTC)

Sources date

Hi, is unnecessary to add dates to sources. We just end up with sources having them and other's not and it doesn't look good. Not even status articles uses them.--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 10:20, December 27, 2019 (UTC)

I believe it helps when adding a new source to help editors keep the list in the correct date order, besides it's only visible in the editor and does no harm. Plume Tray (talk) 10:22, December 27, 2019 (UTC)
- Not really, it just look like a mess when you have 20 sources and just one with a date, it creates more confussion.--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 10:27, December 27, 2019 (UTC)
  - That just boils down to opinion. Again, its only visible to editors. Plume Tray (talk) 10:30, December 27, 2019 (UTC)

SWCT template

Before I start adding Template:SWCT to articles, I want to know if the template has been greenlit for use by the admin team first. UberSoldat93 (talk) 08:59, February 5, 2020 (UTC)

It hasn't yet, but feel free to add any feedback to the discussion. As a test run, I've added it to Cal Kestis, to get a feel for it. Plume Tray (talk) 11:09, February 5, 2020 (UTC)
- Hello, Plume Tray. Can you please come on IRC when you get a chance? I'd like to discuss this template with you and some related things on the Card Trader wiki. Thanks. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 12:39, February 21, 2020 (UTC)

SWCT in Sources

Hi, you have to follow the layout guide when adding SWCT cards to Sources. Since most sets only have a year attached to them, you have to follow this rule specifically:

"If only an item's publication month and/or year are known, place that item at the end of the month or year. Example: If Source A was published on March 15, 2005 and Source B's publication date is only known as March 2005, list Source A first."

UberSoldat93 (talk) 05:19, May 17, 2020 (UTC)

I understand. Could you please provide an example article where this has occurred, so I can either fix or explain. We do have known release dates for some cards/sets. For example, 2020 Base Series, even though it has a 2020 release year, the actual release date was between 21-23 Nov 2019 following an app update which rolled out over a few days following issues. I'm slowly updating release dates on SWCT, first with Sets then at some point Cards. Plume Tray (talk) 12:34, May 17, 2020 (UTC)
- Great. Just pointing it out for future reference. If you've discovered the dates for some older sets, then it would be good to reflect this in the articles. However, there are cards in a set that may have been released later, so the release date cannot be applied to the whole set. UberSoldat93 (talk) 12:38, May 17, 2020 (UTC)
  - Correct, such as with awards and daily sets. We'll have to deal with individual card release dates as we find them and update both SWCT and Wookieepedia. Plume Tray (talk) 12:43, May 17, 2020 (UTC)
    - Adding {{Mo}} in Sources in unnecessary. UberSoldat93 (talk) 09:46, May 21, 2020 (UTC)

Departments

Hey, please have a look at Discord when you get the chance. Thanks. UberSoldat93 (talk) 17:54, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

Topps 1970s series naming

I noticed the renaming of the old Topps card series articles. I'm just wondering what the source of those new titles being the official ones is. The only place I see those names is the Trading Card Database site, which isn't an official source. --JMM (talk) 13:36, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Best person to talk to about this is probably Immi Thrax, as I was just carrying out a bot request. Plume Tray (talk) 16:18, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Cookie

JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) has awarded you a Mint Wookiee Cookie!

For your updating the way we do article nomination vote counts. Awesome stuff!

"Battle" of Oetchi

Shouldn't it be "Massacre at Oetchi" instead Battle of Oetchi? If I'm being honest, that whole "battle" is more like a massacre for the Resistance. --Ech2000 (talk) 14:27, November 4, 2021 (PDT)

Its named as per source, which makes it non-conjectural: Star Wars: Battles that Changed the Galaxy. Plume Tray (talk) 22:29, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

Galoob

Hi Plume, there is a tiny issue with {{Galoob}}. A month ago, miki did a bot automatic replacement (example), and it modified instances of Galoob to include an archivedate, which is NOT supported by the template at the moment. Could you remedy this by updating the template with archivedate? Right now, there is 13 pages triggering the maintenance tag because of this, but I suppose it's better to update the template than to revert miki. Thanks! --NanoLuuke^{Cloning facility} 14:49, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

Done. Plume Tray (talk) 11:43, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

Talkheader

You accidentally put your signature on the {{Talkheader}} template when you were making documentation pages earlier. At least, that's the only plausible time it could have happened. I do not have the skills to fix this, so I thought I'd let you know about this because it really does need to be fixed. SilverSunbird (talk) 02:31, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

Zed fixed it, so we're all good. SilverSunbird (talk) 02:35, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
- Good catch. I saw Zed's edit note, though I've never seen that includeonly / nowiki issue before. Thanks for the heads up. Plume Tray (talk) 10:05, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

I feel like I should do this every 6 months or so...

NanoLuuke^{Cloning facility} has awarded you a Wookiee Cookie!

For the numerous time you've helped fix or improve our systems.

Plumebot space tweak

Hey, Plume, just a heads-up: PLUMEBOT undid this edit, though as explained in the edit summary, the space there needs to be nonbreaking. (It's a place where normally {{' "}} would be used, but obviously can't as the double quote is supplied by {{Quote}}. But it's merely an aesthetic space to make the adjacent quotes more legible, not a semantic space, so it would be incorrect (and ugly) to have a line break there.) Not sure what this particular bot is trying to fix, but it looks like the algorithm needs a bit of a tweak to allow necessary nonbreaking spaces. Thanks! [If you want to reply, you can reply here to keep the thread all together, rather than breaking it up between your and my talk pages.] Asithol (talk) 21:13, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

When you say line break, are you saying you're seeing the double quote move to the next line or just a different size space? In Safari and Chrome, I'm seeing a normal space using nbsp; or #32;, so visually the browser is displaying the same either way. I would only use nbsp; if I wanted a double space eg nbsp;nbsp;. Plume Tray (talk) 22:11, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
-   is a nonbreaking space. In most browsers it does also have the effect of enforcing multiple adjacent spaces (since adjacent ordinary spaces are typically squeezed down to a single space), but that's not its primary purpose. It exists because a text formatter (such as a web browser) is free to change any normal space into a line break (and yes, I'm using this in the sense of moving the next character to a new line), and sometimes you want to prevent that from happening. (See Wikipedia:Non-breaking space.) Some Wookieepedia editors use it in running text in places like "14 km" to prevent a line break from appearing between a numeral and a unit abbreviation. Between a single quote and a double quote is definitely a place you want to prevent a line break, though admittedly one is unlikely to land there. {{' "}} adds space between those quote marks without using any space characters at all, which is the preferred mechanism, but we don't have (and in fact the wiki software disallows the creation of) a {{' }} [apostrophe space] template. The   here is not the ideal solution, but it does work until someone crafts something better. Asithol (talk) 00:59, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
  - What browser are you using? Plume Tray (talk) 06:58, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
  - I think I now understand what you mean, so its how browsers determine how to word wrap and we want to keep ' " grouped together. I'll make a tweak to the bot script, I'll let you know when this is done so you can revert changes (don't do it before my changes otherwise the bot will just keep changing it back as its currently running every hour on recent changes). Plume Tray (talk) 07:18, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
    - I've tweaked the bot script and fixed the page. Plume Tray (talk) 08:20, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
      - Thank you! (In case it still matters, I'm currently using Firefox, but the breaking properties of different types of spaces are defined by the Unicode standard and so should be browser independent.) Has your bot only ever run on pages with recent changes? 'Cause I know I've used that   thing at the beginning or end of {{Quote}}s before, but if they were done before the bot went live and it's never looked at older edits, those should be fine. Asithol (talk) 21:04, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
        Its only been running against recent changes, since early this week. Yesterday's bot fix ignores both beginning and end in quote templates. Plume Tray (talk) 08:17, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
        Thank you for your help with this back in April. There are apparently still cases it's not handling; see here. Asithol (talk) 03:13, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
        I've added another condition to the bot script to exclude those now. Thanks for letting me know. Plume Tray (talk) 07:42, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
        Awesome, thank you so much! Asithol (talk) 14:55, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Master and Apprentice award

For helping me, with extreme patience, set up and troubleshoot PastaBot. Thank you! JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 00:49, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, glad to help. Nice to see another bot. Plume Tray (talk) 07:44, 11 August 2022 (UTC)