Talk: Green tentacle/Archive1

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Green tentacle, welcome!

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X-wing pilot names

I would be grateful if you would add the p[ilot names in the appropriate articles. For example, I just added Samuel Raider et al in the Intrepid article, guided by their own articles. Since you have read the guide, it will be easier for you. MoffRebus 21:56, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Will do. Green tentacle 10:39, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Background info fom the X-wing storyline is really the best thing I could (not) think. Thank you!!! MoffRebus 09:14, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Hey, which mission was that with the Talon? Was it Farlander's First Mission in the historical ones? MoffRebus 23:32, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Yeah, the strategy guide goes into a lot of detail on that one then says that a simplified version (without boarding Talon) was added to historical combat afterwards. Green tentacle 08:13, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Capital ships

Check this out List of capital ships in X-wing games. Your cleanup is required

Relentless

Can you add some info here? Relentless (Sunaj IV) MoffRebus 02:01, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

  • I've added all I can. The story part of the strategy guide ends after tour 3 so I've only been able to expand on the missions, and the fact that Farlander flew in them. Green tentacle 08:20, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Articles for ship names

You have removed the article of the Ship Mercy in it's article. But Wookieepedia rules say that ship names should be used with article. See Wookieepedia:Manual_of_Style#Class_and_ship_names. Pi8ch 08:56, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

  • Sorry, you're quite right. We used to do it without the definite article but they changed it in June and I hadn't looked at the Manual of Style since. Green tentacle 09:16, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
    • Ok - thanks for the info. I wondered why so many Ship articles do not use the article. ;-) Another question from a non-native English speaker: I thought in English shipnames are always used with articles anyway? Pi8ch 09:47, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
      • Honestly, I don't know. I have heard them used a lot, but I think people in the Navy generally don't use the definite article. I'm not sure whether there's a rule on it, English is a funny language and I never got taught grammar in school (we did more on grammar in French and German than in English). Green tentacle 10:06, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
        • Hehe. At least in German the article would be used. In addition in German ships are always feminine as well. You know: The sailor's bride.... ;-). Well ok - then we simply follow the wookiee rules! Pi8ch 10:16, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Vandelizum

Hope it was ok what I did, reverting all of them and all. thanks for youe help. Is he banned? --Jabbathehuttgartogg DesilijicEmblem-TheOfficialSWFactFile DesilijicEmblem-TheOfficialSWFactFile 10:42, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

  • I've added him to the vandalism in progress list so an admin should notice it soon. Green tentacle 10:48, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Leaving?!

Shame or not a shame, that's debatable. And who's being shamed, that's debateable too.

Well, at least AtaruMaster is going a nice job of convincing me to stay...*sighs*...Wookiepedia. So addictive, yet excruciatingly painful and irritating.

Cheers, RelentlessRecusant20px 23:05, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

  • I can think of a few things that fit that description. Glad to hear he's convincing you to stay, we might not always agree with each other but the wiki's better if we all manage to work together. Well, it's the middle of the night here so I'd better go to bed. Green tentacle 23:15, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for wishing me happy birthday, I appreciate it. Jaina SoloGoddess StuffFile:JainaPurple.jpg |30px 12:41, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Template: Mon Calamari starship classes

Well, I wasn't done by the time that you moved it. It was still a bit screwy, but I revamped the new one.

Thanks!!

Cheers,

RelentlessRecusant20px 17:44, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Wookieepedian of the Mounth

Is the voting over now? I have someone to nominate for october. -- Snowtrooper223 12:09, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Reply: Tech Journal image

Hey! That picture looks a lot better than before. Thanks for letting me know! --Xwing328(Talk) 22:25, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

X-wing pics

Definitely yes! I don'thave the docs any more so the task has to fall on you MoffRebus 09:12, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

I like the old pic better. The colored picisnothing but some Photoshop filters passed over the BW one. MoffRebus 10:52, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

How arrogant of them! But thanks for the heads-up, I thought it was like Wikipedia, where either is accepted. .... 12:00, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for all your 'cooperation' in the X-wing (operation strike fear, ship names etc) articles. I started entering every sole ship appearing by playing, but the work would not be finished without you!!! Thanks to you I have also hintbook information MoffRebus 22:36, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

  • You're welcome. The book certainly makes it easier, with a canonical description of each mission (so you can actually say which ships Farlander destroyed) and a list of all ships in every mission. It'll take me forever to get through it all though! Green Tentacle (Talk) 18:59, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
    • Maybe we should write articles on the two transports you deleted from the Jeffrey article? the ATK-somethings MoffRebus 00:23, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
      • Hey, the transport names you deleted are ATK-253 and ATK-592. You added info on different transports with similar names. I guess all of them existed, not only those in the Biggs mission. MoffRebus 22:38, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
        • Oh, I feel so dumb now. You were saying about the same transports, but the dash made my contributions show redlinked and I enver bother read the NUM<BERS. So I guess there is no problem then, no 'phantom' transports I was worrying about. Thanks for clearing this up!!! MoffRebus 21:30, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Reply: DAAdshead

(Delete as appropriate) Thank you for your welcome. I look forward to enhaning my limited knowledge of the SW universe here - although am unlikely to make any but the most simplistic changes, due to a distinct lack of source material!!! Still, thanks anyway!DAAdshead 15:56, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Award

[[:File:Pit-droid-award.png|thumb|right|I, StarNeptune, do award Green tentacle theThe Pit Droid Award of Diligence for his work on properly categorizing all the articles in Category:Males. StarNeptuneTalk to me! 10:55, 14 November 2006 (UTC) ]]

Category:Alliance Members and Category:Alliance Military Members

Well, it seems that those who are Category:Alliance Military members are by rote also Category:Rebel Alliance members. Whereas the vice-verse isn't necessarily true. As far as the alphabetical order and names, I'll be sure to do that. Thanks. Hobbie911 16:21, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Re:Anakin Image

Wow, just a second after I cast my votes, you'd already responded about it on my talk page. Keeping a sharp watch on the forum, huh? ^^ Anyway, I know that it's about whether or not to include the Vader image, and I voted to keep the present image in the article and I stated my reasons as well. I may be voting for a losing side, but it's the side I believe in and I plan to stick with it unless persuaded otherwise, which I have not been yet. I apologize in advance if I have not yet grasped what you are saying. :P —Mirlen 14:10, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Ah, well, thank you for clearing things up, but I still vote for not adding another image on the top or the bottom. —Mirlen 14:19, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
    • I clarified my reasons for support on the CT, thanks for pointing out the little confusion. :) —Mirlen 14:23, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

A Guide to the Star Wars Universe

  • Did I miss the conversation where it was decided to split this article in three? jSarek 10:21, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Accidental block

Sorry about that, as I reacted too quickly to eliminate those blankers and page movers I hit your block button instead of theirs. -- Riffsyphon1024 11:01, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

  • That's alright. I was just trying to figure out how to protest when you undid it. Green Tentacle (Talk) 11:10, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
    • Hmm, maybe it's not alright. I still can't edit any pages other than this one. Green Tentacle (Talk) 12:04, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
      • I think it's that my user name isn't blocked but my IP is (and I can't change it either, it's static). Green Tentacle (Talk) 12:32, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
        • Should be fixed. Your IP was autoblocked by the system, so I unblocked it. -- Darth Culator (Talk)(Kills) 12:39, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Wookiee villager

Hello there ! I want to ask why do you wanna delete the article about wookiee villager ?i know that are no sources but are appearances, is from the game.Im looking forward for you answer !Darth Nospher 18:58, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Articles (except for book, game, film, author, actor, etc) should be written from an in-universe perspective which rules out the part about the "Chewbacca campaign from Galactic Battlegrounds". What you're left with is the existence of Wookiees who live in villages. They're only a group as far as the game is concerned (from an IU perspective they're just a group of Wookiees) and we don't do articles on things which only exist for games. Therefore it should either be deleted or, as I need a name suggested, redirect to Wookiee. Green Tentacle (Talk) 20:31, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

RE: Code of the Sith

Thanks for the heads-up; I'd wondered what had happened there. Happy Life Day! Jwebb13HoloNet40px 02:09, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey, what should I put for licensing if the image is just something that I found online? I marked it {{user-image}}, but I don't want it to get deleted again just for not having the right info attached. Jwebb13HoloNet40px 22:32, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Sorry about the Ashes; friggin' Aussies.... Jwebb13HoloNet40px 22:11, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

  • That's okay. Being English means getting used to constant sporting humiliation. Green Tentacle (Talk) 23:59, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
    • At least we still have Manchester, with or without that b@stard traitor Beckham.... Jwebb13HoloNet40px 22:30, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
      • All the best teams are in the Championship! Green Tentacle (Talk) 22:01, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
        • What league does Birmingham City play in? They aren't Premier League, are they? Jwebb13HoloNet40px 02:19, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
          • Blues are in the Championship (what was Division 1 before Coca Cola took over sponsorship and changed the name). They were in the Premiership but got relegated last year. But they're top of the league so should hopefully go back up this year. Green Tentacle (Talk) 13:04, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Galactic Battlegrounds Aurebesh translations

  • Actually, just about every misspelling in this section is [sic] because the text is apparently riddled with errors. Personally, I'd support removing the section entirely because it contains several of the typos in the Hunt, and there's too many of them to mark [sic]. ‘Forseen’ is just the tip of the iceberg, but for what it's worth, that's a misspelling in the source material. Enochf 18:30, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
    • I don't know. A [sic] at the top might not be visible to someone correcting errors. I've puzzled over this for a while, but never came up with any solution (aside from deleting the section, and that wouldn't really be fair to the person who included it; it's not his fault). Enochf 18:42, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Custom Userboxes

If you would like any user boxes made just see my talk page. Thanks. Happy Holidays! ScwhinkyCommunicate 22:01, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Recent changes patrol box.

Can I add a link in the recent changes userbox? Here's my proposal:

45px This user is a recent changes patroller.



Gimme a buzz when you have had a chance to look it over.--Jump!!01:52, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Article on the reference book

Thanks for adding the "article" but there are more in-depth articles for each edition already. - Patricksheridan 9:14pm, January 19, 2007

Prim

I didn't add that paragraph... it existed since the article's beginning, so I don't know what the author had in mind... since you checked the game recently, then you should proceed to what you think correct MoffRebus 10:21, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome

Hi from Spanish Garrison of the Empire. I have read you have more than 5,000 edits, wow! I do not think I would have so much, but I will contribute adding Spanish links to articles and ortographical and minor corrections. I see you patrol your articles, good hunting!

mynz' userpage

  • Look at the history of the userpage. The Christian (and pro-Israel) userboxes were added today. 20px Expansionary Fleet Commander Mitth'raw'nuruodo Discuss 15:34, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
    • Fair enough, but he did say at the start of Forum:SH Archive/Sensitive issues on user pages|Forum:Sensitive issues on user pages that he is a Christian. The point was not to judge somebody's religion based on where they are from. Green Tentacle (Talk) 15:47, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Forum:Featured Article Reform Proposal

Is there anything we can do to change your mind on the issue? We're not trying to exclude people, and the community as a whole will still make the final decision. It's just a quality buffer and a way to make the FA and GA pages more efficient. Also, we do need another member. If you do change your idea, I think your work on Bria Tharen would make you qualified to be on this "council" of sorts. Cull Tremayne 00:47, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

  • Thanks for your long and well thought out response. I understand your reluctance, and yes, it's easy to see that this is just a pointless power-grab. I'm not going to say that I don't find having a little bit of power over FA entertaining. However, I do think that this will help the FA process for the better. I don't know if you've seen this, but there are so many articles that are nominated just because they are a main character in the films or books. Anakin Skywalker is constantly nominated just because he's the main character of Star Wars, even though the article is nowhere near what we want for FA quality. So why I know that this seems unneeded and just power hungry, I think FA still needs it.
  • I agree with your first point. I guess there is no real need for the Inquisitorius to have that power. The way you've described could work fine. However, I also think if we had a team "assigned" to doing this, it would work much faster and more efficiently. As it is, people usually only vote for articles that they have a personal connection to. Think how much harder it will be to get people to vote "down" an objection. On top of the fact that people have a hesitance to "remove" other people's words, I think that leaving it up to the community to strike objections will only make the FA more stagnant and boring. Once again, if a team is assigned to doing it, I think it would work so much better.
  • Once again, I agree. We are going a little overboard here. Downgrading an article should be left up to the community as a whole. However, my problem is once again that there is an misunderstanding among people that aren't involved in FA. Imagine trying to "downgrade" Boba Fett. There are so many people that are fans of Fett, myself included, that will see this as a slight against the character, when really it's a call to action to make the article better. Also, we'll have to deal with people that are just opposed to downgrading any article. With these two factors, "downgrading" will become impossible, even though it is something that FA desperately needs. So while I think that the community "should" get a say, I just think that it will damage the idea of "downgrading" completely.
  • Here's where I think I might be changing my mind. If the Inquisitorius was a WookieeProject, then anyone could join, which might be more fair. However, I still need some convincing, I want to make sure that we don't attract people who have little interest in FA, hate the thought of "downgrading" articles, and don't even understand the point of FAs. If we could do this without making it official, I'd be all for it.
  • Maybe you're right, but can't this go both ways? How about a trial period for the Inquisitorius? I know this will help the FA and the Community for the better.

I respect your decision, and I totally understand your stance. Note: I still think you'd be an asset to our power-hungry coup. ;P Cull Tremayne 00:51, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

I'm glad you welcomed me. I know the drill though. I wanna be an admin. Can you help? I know I need a good rep first, but I'm just asking for help.--Pupster21 19:06, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

  • I'm no expert but you have to have been an active contributor for at least 6 months, be 18 or older and be nominated by another user in order to be considered for an adminship. Green Tentacle (Talk) 19:35, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the warm welcome. --Sir James Paul 02:12, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Hey, thank you very much for welcoming me as well! Also, thanks for fixing my horrendous typo in my first edit. Man, I shouldn't be allowed to type at 3am. Semysane 11:52, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

And thanks for welcoming me also. Keep sending me pointers if I mess up. --O0Donut 12:57, 23 March 2007 (UTC)


Sorry that was an accident i didn't even want to edit that one DR

QOTD help sought

I've got a QOTD problem. Forum:Anons and mysteriously appearing voters: help or advice? Looking for opinions of legitimate voters. Should I count this guy's votes or not? Enochf 09:34, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Template

Why did you propose my signature template for deletion? - Patricknoddy 22:14, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Tanks fur da weclome

Thank you for the welcome message. I think I'll enjoy bein' a Wookieepedian. -DarkJedi Robert 22:06, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Keyan Farlander

I'm not sure where that pic of Keyan in the bacta tank should go, but I was trying to move it out of the bts and into the main article. If you could find a spot in the actual text that it is relevant to, or perhaps edit the caption slightly, I think it would be better. Thanks --Eyrezer 22:50, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

  • Interesting. I'll have a think about it. --Eyrezer 23:43, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

How would it work?

"After this night, Leia was returned to Jabba and remained a slave of his sexual desires, just as Oola was, for an unknown stretch of time."
―Some idiot anon editor

How would it work? I want to know? No seriously, that's one of the crazier things I've seen here. Good thing you removed it. ...and I liked your humorous edit summary. KEJ 19:55, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

help

I am an admin on the Star Wars: Battlefront Wikia, and I was wondering: 1) how did you get the extra links (Senate Hall, Wookieenews) on the Navigation list at left? 2)how did you turn the background blue? If you could tell me, it would help a lot.--Kanogul 22:39, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

  • The navigation list is at MediaWiki:Sidebar so just edit it. As for the background, it probably involves MediaWiki:Common.css but I'm not sure. Green Tentacle (Talk) 23:21, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
    • I'm not seeing any differences. Maybe you could explain it a little better on my talk page, because I'm fairly new at this. The sidebar did work, however, so I don't need help there anymore. Thanks a lot for that. I'm just not sure exactly what all I have to add to change the background (eventually I want it black- #000000). --Kanogul 02:44, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
      • Any idea who could help? If not, thanks for trying and for giving me as much information as you did.--Kanogul 18:12, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for all your help.

  • To change the background, add this to MediaWiki:Monobook.css: body { background: #000000 } - Sikon 08:45, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Congratulation

I'm sure this is written elsewhere, but congratulations! Welcome aboard, and enjoy the POWAAHHH! :-P. Cull Tremayne 05:35, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Atarumaster88's User Page, Vandalism or Joke?

It could be an April fools joke or something, but Atarumaster88's User Page has been replaced by nonsense. Someone claims he has Hacked Atarumaster88's account. It could be a joke, but if it isn't then some vandal now has admin powers. Just thought I'd let someone know incase it's not a joke --Jedimca0 (Do or Do Not, There is No Try) 14:45, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Von-Alai

While I do realize that the way I had put it did seem rather non-NPOV, I am 100% sure that it was alluding to industry-related global warming. However, I am unsure as to how to fit this information into the article. Could you find a way? 207.179.172.217 17:19, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

P.S. I acknowledge that this is coming from a different IP from the one I had used earlier.

  • It was speculative and written from an out-of-universe perspective. OOU content isn't allowed in the main article. You could add a behind the scenes section and put it in there, but frankly any speculation is likely to be removed by somebody. Green Tentacle (Talk) 17:48, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

thankyou

Thanks alot for the warm welcome! :-)--Nadirali نادرالی

Re:userbox templates

Okay thanks for telling me.

To be honest I actually was trying to see if I had understood how to create templates and it looked like my experiment worked.I'll just leave it in custom form as i dont plan on adding much to my userpage.Thanks.--Nadirali نادرالی

question

The history of articles provides links to users and their talkpages.The link that leads you to their talkpages is written in the Arabic script.As a native speaker of Ordu (Pakistan's official language that uses the same script as Arabic) I can read it but not sense of it so Im assuming its an Arabic word.What does it mean do you know?--Nadirali نادرالی

  • Well, in English we see username (Talk | contribs), so I guess it just says 'Talk'. Green Tentacle (Talk) 15:13, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Okay thanks for telling.:-)--Nadirali نادرالی

Guri

Where did those pictures of Guri come from? Is there a comic with those in them? Please let me know, I would love t read them. Thanks, Anzati02 16:20, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

okay, thanks. I realized that I could tell where they were from after i asked you that question. sorry. Anzati02 18:05, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

  • I just got through reading the short story, Or Die Trying, and Guri is not in that. They talk about her, but she is not in it. So, I added to the appearances: (Mentioned only). Is that okay?

Anzati02 18:16, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Ha! I have both SOTE and SOTE Evolution. They both are good. And yeah, there are a lot of those half-naked pictures in it. =)

Are you an admin? Anzati02 18:27, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Aag! Screw that last sentence. I know that you are one

multiple user pages

Is it allowed to have multiple user pages under different usernames? I recently noticed 3 user pages claiming to be Doppelgangers of each other. all 3 of them contain a different Fanon bio (or at least the “everything I tell you is a lie” thing is on all the pages) and 2 of them have voted on the user boxes page.--Jedimca0 (Do or Do Not, There is No Try) 11:52, 20 April 2007 (UTC)


I just noticed that User:X-fighter023 created a new account under the name User:Rowbacca. I almost confused it for his signature, but it's definitely a different account now. Is this sock puppetry? --Jedimca0 (Do or Do Not, There is No Try) 12:35, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

  • I informed him that he needed to have his user name in his signature and that, if he wanted to be Rowbacca, he would need a new account. There's no problem with it as long as he stops using his old account. Green Tentacle (Talk) 12:50, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
    • OK, I was just wondering if this was allowed or not. It appears he stopped using his old account, so there's no problem. Just curios, that's all. --Jedimca0 (Do or Do Not, There is No Try) 12:58, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Gnom!

Why? Gnom is a real person! He is a Klon! --Heiliger Klingone 15:41, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Talk Pages

Being fairly new to this wiki, how are the talk pages used? Wikipedia only lets people use the talk page to discuss changes in the article, however some wikis seem to let their talk pages be used like a forum, I notice some of the discussions on the talk page for Order 66 seem more about the general subject and not really concerning edits to the article. Destroyer Droid 20:28, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

  • Replied for you on his talk page, GT. Atarumaster88 20:52, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Signature

  • Thanks, I hadn't noticed. But i don't know how to change it. {{SUBST:DarthAbsig}} 10:45, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Re: Userbox Templates

  • Sorry about that. I wasn't aware that you were meant to do that until now. Thanks :) NighthawkLeader 06:17, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Chandrilan Resistance

Hi Tentacle. What's your source for the Chandrilan Resistance? Thanks. --Azizlight 07:41, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

  • Hmm. Guess I never got around to doing anything with that. I'll rummage around when I get home and find out. Green Tentacle (Talk) 08:59, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
    • Actually, got one already; Rebel Dawn—"We're getting recruits in from Alderaan every day," Bria pointed out, truthfully. "And there are so many Bothan and Sullustan Pilgrims on Ylesia, those worlds might send us some troops and ships. It's worth asking them. And what about Chandrila? They're part of the new Rebel Alliance--sworn to help us!" Green Tentacle (Talk) 09:25, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
      • Thanks. If you don't mind, I might just slap a conjecture tag on the article, since the resistance isn't actually named. --Azizlight 01:00, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Hey

Hey, can you undelete Wesco Pache for a second? I told User:Wesco Pache that his story could be moved to his userpage. He's new and did not know that only NPCs are canon. Thanks. Chack Jadson 12:39, 5 May 2007 (UTC)