Battle of Corellia (4 ABY)
Hi can you please tell me where exactly this battle is mentioned in Recon & Report and in The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia. Thank you, Hk 47 (talk) 09:31, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- This battle is mentioned when it was said that Roek defended the retreating forces of the Empire from the New Republic. And as a result, the Corellia system remained part of the Galactic Empire.
Cerberxx (talk) 10:34, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- This is a good example of the problems with your edits. You over-interpreted the information given in the article. Nothing mentions a battle of Corellia here. That makes your contributions factually incorrect. Hk 47 (talk) 11:02, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Well, if you think the edits about the Battle of Corellia are incorrect, then fine. But the edits about the Roek's fleet are completely in the source. In the article about Roek himself, I only speculated that he died on 5 ABY, because his entire fleet was destroyed, and I found everything else in books and the Internet. Cerberxx (talk) 11:13, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- This is a good example of the problems with your edits. You over-interpreted the information given in the article. Nothing mentions a battle of Corellia here. That makes your contributions factually incorrect. Hk 47 (talk) 11:02, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
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Admiral Roek
Hi, your work is full of speculations and unverified information. Please be more cautious in you writing or this will be considered vandalism. Maybe, you need to become more familiar with the encyclopedic perspective of Wookieepedia before editing. Best regards, Hk 47 (talk) 10:36, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, now I have added information to the article about Roek that is definitely available in the sources. Cerberxx (talk) 11:01, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- This is still full of false information. Hk 47 (talk) 12:13, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Tell me specifically, where is the false information? Cerberxx (talk) 12:17, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Well, almost everything you added: there is no evidence of New Republic presence in the corellian system, that Roek has the most powerful fleet, that Roek is from Kuat, that he commanded Kuat's forces, that Roek or his fleet joined Grunger... That's a lot of mistakes. Hk 47 (talk) 12:31, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- I literally quoted in the article why Admiral Roek is from Kuat, why he used to be in the Kuat system. I did not write about the fact that he has one of the strongest fleets, but this is also in the book. And about the fact that he joined Grunger, it is written that Roek joined Grunger and then the grand Admiral appropriated his flagship for himself. I actually took the presence of the New Republic in Corellia from another article. Paragraph: "Admiral Roek and his fleet defended the Imperial withdrawal from the system as the New Republic—formerly the Rebel Alliance—began conquering planets in the Core Worlds", was taken from another article. It's all in the source: *
"Recon & Report: The Journey to Coruscant" — Star Wars Adventure Journal 2,
"Recon & Report: The Journey to Coruscant" — The Best of the Star Wars Adventure Journal, Issues 1-4, The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia (about Aggressor and Grunger) Cerberxx (talk) 12:58, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- The quote you used to justify the relationships between Roek and Kuat is falsified. That is vandalism. Hk 47 (talk) 13:34, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Do you even have this book? It literally says that Harkness assumes that Admiral Roek used to lead the Kuat defensive fleet, since he himself was rumored to be from Kuat. You don't even own this magazine and you're accusing me of vandalism. Cerberxx (talk) 13:43, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi there Cerberxx – I've just reviewed the sources you mentioned. While I think describing the additions you made as "vandalism" was a bit of an overstatement, it does seem like you're making a lot of speculative claims regarding Roek. From what I can tell, all we know about him is that he commanded the SSD Aggressor, which had an escort of five Star Destroyers. There's nothing about Roek commanding a fleet, let alone it being "the most powerful" or any of those other ships being associated with Roek. Your math of adding the 25 SDs to the Aggressor's escort of 5 is also original research, as is the concept of a 4 ABY Battle of Corellia, it seems. I'm going to ask that you remove that speculation from Roek's page, and we'll probably end up deleting the page for his fleet as I don't see evidence of its existence in the sources. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 22:41, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi! The fact that Roek operated a fleet of 30 star destroyers is written in the magazine Recon Repost. I even quoted from this magazine, if you have a magazine, then you can check the authenticity yourself, if this magazine is on the Internet, then you can look there. The magazine says that Admiral Jeffis controlled a fleet of 25 star destroyers, and then a fleet of 5 star destroyers and an Aggressor SSD arrived from the Inner Ring to him. And Jeffis' fleet came under Roek's command. It is also stated in the magazine that Dirk Harkness believes that Roek is from Kuat. I also quoted quotes from the magazine about Roek's fleet, which are RELIABLE! The only thing I've thought of is the battle for Corellia, everything else is in the sources!Cerberxx (talk) 12:42, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi there Cerberxx – I've just reviewed the sources you mentioned. While I think describing the additions you made as "vandalism" was a bit of an overstatement, it does seem like you're making a lot of speculative claims regarding Roek. From what I can tell, all we know about him is that he commanded the SSD Aggressor, which had an escort of five Star Destroyers. There's nothing about Roek commanding a fleet, let alone it being "the most powerful" or any of those other ships being associated with Roek. Your math of adding the 25 SDs to the Aggressor's escort of 5 is also original research, as is the concept of a 4 ABY Battle of Corellia, it seems. I'm going to ask that you remove that speculation from Roek's page, and we'll probably end up deleting the page for his fleet as I don't see evidence of its existence in the sources. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 22:41, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Do you even have this book? It literally says that Harkness assumes that Admiral Roek used to lead the Kuat defensive fleet, since he himself was rumored to be from Kuat. You don't even own this magazine and you're accusing me of vandalism. Cerberxx (talk) 13:43, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- The quote you used to justify the relationships between Roek and Kuat is falsified. That is vandalism. Hk 47 (talk) 13:34, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- I literally quoted in the article why Admiral Roek is from Kuat, why he used to be in the Kuat system. I did not write about the fact that he has one of the strongest fleets, but this is also in the book. And about the fact that he joined Grunger, it is written that Roek joined Grunger and then the grand Admiral appropriated his flagship for himself. I actually took the presence of the New Republic in Corellia from another article. Paragraph: "Admiral Roek and his fleet defended the Imperial withdrawal from the system as the New Republic—formerly the Rebel Alliance—began conquering planets in the Core Worlds", was taken from another article. It's all in the source: *
- Well, almost everything you added: there is no evidence of New Republic presence in the corellian system, that Roek has the most powerful fleet, that Roek is from Kuat, that he commanded Kuat's forces, that Roek or his fleet joined Grunger... That's a lot of mistakes. Hk 47 (talk) 12:31, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Tell me specifically, where is the false information? Cerberxx (talk) 12:17, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- This is still full of false information. Hk 47 (talk) 12:13, 29 August 2024 (UTC)