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Names for lekku

I've read that the two lekku are named something like Tchang and Tcheng. This is from the Farlander Papers. Can anyone confirm this?21:11, 29 Jul 2005 (UTC) Its Tchin and Tchun

Cleanup

I just cleaned up this article. I would like to have someone else approve the removal of the cleanup template. – Aidje talk 07:21, 30 Jul 2005 (UTC)

  • I have edited the page further, and I'm all for it. --Culix 02:26, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)
    • Quite a bit of material has been added since my proposal. It's been long enough since my first comment that I will have to look over the article again to see if I still agree. Unfortunately, it will probably be a few days until I have the opportunity to do so. Maybe ext Tuesday. – Aidje talk 08:04, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)
      • Yeah, someone should remove the tag! :\Padme829 00:04, 20 Oct 2005 (UTC)padme829
        • It has been almost three weeks, so with padme829's vote I am removing the tag. --Culix 06:00, 26 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Mammals or Reptiles?

What are Twi'leks (what vertebral group are they in), they can't be fish or birds, and they can't be amphibians because when Aayla Secura was with Kit Fisko (Kit is an amphibian like Jar Jar Binks), Aayla almost drowned under water and the two had to kiss just so she could bread. So the're two more vertebral group that Twi'leks could be in.

  • They're near-human, so they're mammals. -- Riffsyphon1024 00:47, 19 Sep 2005 (UTC)
    • Has it been stated that they're near-human? Curtis Saxton argues that they aren't, since their lekku just make them too different biologically. [Redacted by administration] — Silly Dan 21:55, 14 Oct 2005 (UTC)
      • They're not near-humans, since they aren't genetically compatible. (ie no half-human half-Twi'leks). They're humanoid mammals, though. QuentinGeorge 22:22, 14 Oct 2005 (UTC)
        • Yet, I think is what we should put for no Human/Twi'lek hybrids. Lucas should have official say if they are compatable.-Rob
          • They are neither , they don't have to conform to any definitions of classification . They are alien ya know . I don't think it applies to what few classes we have . There could be millions we don't know of . Dig it .TK867 06:41, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
            • Maybe, but this case obviously fits into one of Earthean categories. - Sikon [Talk] 07:34, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
              • With Secura , yes I would certainly have no problem believing shes' a mammal. Fisto on the other hand ...
                • Yeah, Twi'leks are mammals, since they have breasts. In real life, only mammals have breasts. Master Secura
                  • But in Star Wars Universe most of the female aliens have breasts... Just look at the amphibious Mon Calamari, Quarren, the reptile Rodian, Trandoshan, and the plant Zelosian and Neti. - gunslinger - 2007. Nov. 18.

Also notice though how the Twi'lek possess bellybuttons... clearly indicative of mammal growth and birth unless Lucas got careless in makeup if he wanted them to be something other than mammals. HuronKing

  • There's a lot of talk about Kit Fisto going on and remember that he is a Nautolan not a Twi'lek so whatever traits he possesses are not Twi'lek traits. It seems very obvious that Twi'leks are not humans or even near humans. Remember Daeshara'cor on her death bed told Anakin Solo that she could not be cured the same way Corran Horn was because "Humans and Twi'leks have different biologies". But really what reptilian traits do they have? They aren't cold-blooded, they don't have scales like Falleen do, they don't have the reptile eyes with the slit like pupils. Why wouldn't they be mammels?--144.92.215.78 20:36, 12 July 2006 (UTC)Kyp-Durron
    • The plant Zelosian also have bellybuttons... - gunslinger - 2007. Nov. 18.

They're probably more like Cardassians from Star Trek; Cardassians are reptillian mammals. I suppose the Twi'lek are mammilian amphibians, possibly, or something like that. Also, they may have "breasts," but they may not be mammary glands...they don't seem to have nipples (look at the first pic on the front page, lol). Promus Kaa

  • remember that zsinj used them in project funeral which only affected mammals. this means twi'leks are mammals. Ugluk 19:59, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Suggestion and Questions

This page states that every Twi'lek clan had their own city. Did this result from each clan existing separately when primitive Twi'leks lived in caves? Some clarification of this on the page might be nice.

The Twi'lek names section has the sentence "This change was meant to symbolize a way of togetherness." Does this mean symbolizing the togetherness of the individual and their clan, or something else?

Is there a consensus on the name of the Twi'lek language? Some places, such as the starwars.com databank refer to it as "Twi'leki", while other sources (here, as well as the Star Wars RPG) refer to it as "Ryl". Is one name more correct? Are both names acceptable?

Finally, maybe the final sentence on Ryll should be moved to the Ryll page, since it is more of a description of the substance than of the Twi'lek homeworld. --Culix 19:04, 3 Oct 2005 (UTC)

  • I think I also recall seeing "Rylothean". "Twi'leki" seemed to be the more common in my experience, but the easiest explanation is that they are three different languages, all spoken by different groups of Twi'leks (geographical variations, different races, or something).--Valin Kenobi 07:02, 11 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Does anyone know why only some male Twi'leks have ears??

Something is missing from this article. An example of the twi'lek spoken language. Just covering basic words like: she, he, thank you, miss, mrs, mr, hello, who, where, there, place, please, goodbye, son, daughter etc with a few phrase terms, twi'leki words for colors and swear words. Maybe even a few examples of twi'lek name meanings other than Nawar'aven. What's your opinion? I mean it is an encyclopedia, give it a little flavor!

Pictures

Does anyone have some more pictures? This is a rather long article to have only one pic in it. Eyrezer

  • I have replaced this image of Ann Gella with this image of Bib Fortuna. I did this as I thought that the infobox image should be full body and since the Rutian Twi'leks are rare I thought that they should not be the primary image. What do people think? -- Volemlock 17:11, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Fortuna should always take precedence over other Twi'lek since he's far and away the most recognizable. I'd suggest making him the first picture visible in the article. 66.167.145.218 07:18, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

No offence, I mean I know how much people love Aayla Secura (myself included)but seeing her as the main picture (as the main representation of the species)isn't right because only a few twi'leks are force-sensitive and that doesn't cover the rest of the race. So what I suggest is, to have a picture of Bib Fortuna, a slave dancer and a female jedi or smuggler or Sith (side by side). That will represent them better! Even better if each twi'lek had a different colour skin to prove to the obsessed Rutian skinned roleplayers that we're not making the muti-coloured skinned twi'leks up. Because since Aayla Secura came into live fame, certain numbers of people are convinced that blue is the only colour that twi'leks come in!!!

What makes you think that is a picture of Aayla Secura? She's wielding a blaster, not a lightsaber.

The weapon don't matter besides look at her clothes. The twi'lek is identical to Aayla is movie skintone, lekkuwrap and outfit! So what if it's not a lightsaber and who says she's not trained to use a blaster as well. That's movie version Aayla Secura!!

Sources for this??

"The range of possible Twi'lek skin colors was extremely diverse, including green, orange, brown, yellow, blue, white, and purple - all in varying shades and hues. Twi'leks of these skin colors were referred to as Ryloth Twi'leks, with green being the most common color. Other types of Twi'leks included the particularly rare turquoise-skinned Twi'leks, known as Rutian Twi'leks, and the rarest red pigment of the Lethan Twi'leks, whose skin color was caused by a mutation of the genetic code.

A Twi'lek's skin tones varied with lineage, and each color alluded to the kind of worship practiced by the individual's ancestors. Though the Twi'leks all worshipped the same female mother deity, Kakka lekki, the manner in which she was worshipped varied by skin color. Traditionally, purple Twi'leks worshiped Kakka lekki through song, dance, and music, while orange and yellow Twi'leks worshiped with fire and simple pyrotechnics. Blue and white Twi'leks worshiped through study and appreciation of water. Brown and pink Twi'lek worshiped through manipulation of stone, and the green Twi'leks by meditation and contemplation."

--Where is it stated that everything other than Rutians and Lethans are referred to as "Ryloth Twi'leks"?

--Where does it say green is the most common?

  • Twi'leks of these skin colors were referred to as Ryloth Twi'leks, with green being the most common color. -That's where. --The Nuclear Wookiee 00:27, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

--The entire paragraph about religion sounds really iffy to me. Source?--Valin Kenobi 07:09, 11 Dec 2005 (UTC)

--I agree. Sounds like bad fanfiction. --Pdixie 20:25, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

-- what exactly is the difference between Rutian and blue?

-- Rutian is the Latin or greek word for blue. It's not Kakka lekki either, it's Kika lekki. Rutian: Blue, Lethan: Red.

  • The article currently has it spelled inconsistently as "Kikalekki" or "Kika'lekki". Does anyone know a source that could at least show that one or the other was officially published? 68.44.13.236 21:40, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
  • The source is fanon, it came from a fan-site called peach-tree.org (site seems currently pulled). Some roleplaying circles used this information because they found Twi'lek information was lacking here and there. As far as I am aware this information is still not canon. Then perhaps the best approach is adding a non-canon header until someone considers removal? Jay-1886 23:25, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Lead in quote

The lead in quote seems to be in rather poor taste. Can we get a different one? -- SFH 20:05, 1 Jan 2006 (UTC)

  • [Redacted by administration] --Master Starkeiller 20:13, 1 Jan 2006 (UTC)
    • I love the quote ^^ ----Inmobilus 21:16, 14 Jan 2006 (UTC)
      • I agree with the Devaronians opinion... but it is rather creepy, and even slightly specieist...Sorry if I spelled any part of that wrong. -Kath.Hound 22:41, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Their Ears?

Shouldn't it be mentioned somewhere in this article? The males seem to have "normal" human ears, but it seems to me (from what I've seen so far) that for females the cones on the sides of their heads are their "ears". I'm not sure wheter or not this is right, though. Mabye someone else has more information about this?

  • That's just awkward. Why weren't they given normal ears? - Sikon [Talk] 07:31, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
    • This is far fetched , but maybe they are color coordinated earpieces on thier headdresses . Just a shot in the dark , not likely but ....TK867 22:41, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Not to mention forehead bumps; Bib Fortuna and other male Twi'leks seem to have them, but the females don't.Promus Kaa

  • You can't even see Dia Passik's ears.--Darth OblivionComlink20px 18:17, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
    • That's why I said she doesn't seem to have conical ones -the point being that all the Twi'leks with conical ears have them sticking out of whatever headgear they're wearing (presumably in order to hear clearly). If Dia Passik's ears were conical, she wouldn't have them covered up. It could be the perspective of the illustration, but I'd think that they'd create more of a protuberance beneath the covering than what I'm seeing.Tocneppil 19:01, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Actually, if you look at the Legacy pics of Darth Talon, you can clearly see the cones and she is not wearing any headgear, so that theory is out. Obviously this is a trait specific either to all females (as I have seen no males with them and no females without) or perhaps it is specific to certain clans and regions, much like humans from different parts of the earth have different facial features. Chervil 20px 15:54, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
    • One has to wonder how they can hear with no ear openings.--Lord OblivionSith holocron30px 23:28, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
      • Actually, it looks like there are lines along the cones, those could be sensory imput openings.Tocneppil 04:17, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Koyi Komad seems to have normal ears, but she may be the exception that confirms the rule. Bodo-Baas 00:09, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Lyn Me doesn't have cones for ears. Does she? I mean, where her head gear should be over her ears it's flat. IG-88 D

I looked at Koyi Komad -1 illustration, obvious "human type" ears. Dia Passik - 1 pic shows her in a tight head wrap, with no conical protrusions, the other shows clearly visible, slightly pointed ears. Lyn Me - She wears a tight, leather head wrap with no conical protrusions. This leads me to believe that Twi'lek women have "normal" humanoid ears, but often cover them with the decorative cones. And perhaps the cones can adhere to their skin even without the headdress - explaining Darth Talon's pics. I'd like to cite two more sources: Oola - her ear cones in RotJ don't match her skin tone (they look more like ivory or bone "cups" designed to fit over human-shpaed ears), and they don't look like the ear cones of any other female Twi'lek. Also, in The Essential Guide to Worlds and Moons by Daniel Wallace, in the article on Ryloth there is an illustration of an elderly male and female Twi'lek and they both have human-type ears. --Twilek grrl 05:56, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Diva Plavalaguna a Twi'lek?

Is the species of Diva Plavalaguna from "The Fifth Element" in anyway cohesive to Twi'leks? Both intergalactic and behind the scenes?

haha, i thought the same. -PitchBlack

--Droideka 12:48, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Teeth

Think we should add that males traditionally (or maybe just often) file their teeth into sharp points? It was mentioned in the Young Jedi Knights Diversity Alliance arc, where Nolaa Tarkona mentioned that it was reserved for the males and she got some sort of thrill out of doing it. It also explains why there's such a difference between the two. --LightWarden 16:55, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Skittles of the GFFA

  • Could we see some pix of the various colors, or maybe state who is which color in the list of prominant twileks? I'm looking for the orange & yellow ones, but not having much luck.Tocneppil 19:00, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

New Main Pic

Who on earth added it? It looks horrible! And we already have a pic of Bib Fortuna! Totema1 02:35, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

  • I agree, it is pretty poor quality. I reverted it. --beeurd 02:47, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

New Picture?

Could we get a more neutral Image for this artical. prehaps a Male and Female Twi'lek. as to not have this artical seem sexist? 24.241.35.116 01:06, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

  • I am on the look out for a picture like the one you described, can't find any decent quality ones though. --beeurd 16:49, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
  • It's better than our previous one... Totema1 21:11, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Life Span

  • How long do twi'leks usualy live? the same as humans?

Quinlanfan 22:32, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

    • Hang on, hang on, I've got a canon source for this one! Quick answer: yes. Twi'leks reach adulthood at 16, middle age at 45, old age at 60, and "venerable" at 80, according to the Ultimate Alien Anthology. There's no maximum age, but it's unusual to live much longer than a couple decades in the "venerable" category. Enochf 22:26, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Skin???

  • I have noticed that the red and blue Twi'leks' have names like Rutian or Lethan. What are the names of the Orange and Tan colors?

Grand Admiral Nick Vos [Holonet] Republic Emblem

~Darian: Brown/Gray/peach, Tukian: Green, Tolian: Orange/Yellow and Tyrian: Purple/Pink.~ Twi'lek Lexicon

  • Do you have a source for that? And please sign your comments with ~ ~ ~ ~.

Quinlanfan 02:31, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Is Star Wars Galaxies Canon or fanon? This extra skin information is for SWG roleplayers. Vixenpadme

Prominent Twi'leks

This list is pretty thick. Can we cut it down to maybe 5-6 prominent Twi'leks? — SparqMan Talk 05:55, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

  • Or we could put it in a scrollbox.Tocneppil 04:45, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

lekku

hey, Lekku is listed as a language ! Lekku is not exactly a language is a communication form !Darth Nospher 00:39, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

  • maybe the Lekku's are hollow, and they use air to make sounds with them(like those dinosaurs with the stick on the back of their head)
  • Actually its referenced in several of the RPGs that the lekku language is a body language of sorts that relies on very subtle movements of the lekku. I do believe its mentioned once or twice in the Republic series as well but I specifically remember from rpg sources. Cruball

Finally the EARS!!!!!!

I found this on wikipedia and it makes PERFECT sence: Both males and females have ear nodes, but females typically wear elaborate caps or head-bindings fitted with ear coverings made of bone or other material, leading to the belief among some casual observers that the coverings are actually their ears Grand Admiral Nick Vos [Holonet] Republic Emblem

Why do the males have regular ears and females dont?Quinlanfan 22:22, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

  • While some older art shows Twi'lek females with humanlike ears, newer sources have retconned this, with all Twi'lek females either having conical ears, or headpieces that completely cover the ears. As for whether or not these conical shapes are actually part of their bodies; the Twi'lek female Jaden Korr head models in Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy all clearly show conical ears that are attached to the head. It seems to be fairly obvious that female Twi'leks canonicaly have conical ears. (Especially since none of the females in the G-canon movies have humanlike ears.) Synchronizor 06:12, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

if star was galaxies is any indications then female twileks have no ears just the cones--hicups0002 01:35, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

  • Now this may just be hearsay but I do believe it was travelling on the forums that a long while back lucasfilm had demanded that all the female twi'leks ears be changed to cones in the early builds of Galaxies. I dont have the articles to back this up so it may just be hear say but I specifically remember it. Cruball August 13 2008

Bib Fortuna

Fortuna's pic should be at the top of the page. I know this is "wookiepedia" and most people are expected to have an extended knowledge of the extended universe, but Bib is far and away the most recognizable Twi'lek. And he looks alot different than most of the Twi'leks on here. He give Twi'leks alot of credibility as far non-hardcore fans go because he appears in the OT with dialogue. 66.167.145.218 07:31, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

IPA Pronunciation

Is the IPA given here accurate? I had always pronounced the name as ['twaɪʔlɛk]. For the non-linguistically inclined, the article has the pronunciation as "TWEElek" (no glottal stop), as opposed to what I had assumed, "TWY-lek", with a glottal stop where the hyphen is.

  • "Twee" is the pronunciation that crops up in both KOTOR games. In my head I always read it as "Twy," and that's usually how I say it out loud, but that's just a bad habit. Enochf 19:44, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
    • I don't think the KOTOR games are correct though. Anybody have the NEGAS book laying around that can verify the pronunciation? - JMAS 19:49, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
      • I'm pretty sure it can be both. If memory serves me correctly, SW galaxies has it as (in IPA) Tweelek or Twylek.
        Speaking of the IPA, I don't wanna go on a rant here but in pages such as Xizor, we have a link to the IPA through 'pronunciation,' although it's not actually written in phoenetics on the page. I find that pretty silly. Darth Maddolis 11:50, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

near human

Yo, is da Twi'leks near human? they look a lot like the humans, minus the head tails and female ears. I think that they should be listed as near human. Twilekmaster 14:37, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

  • It doesn't matter whether anyone thinks they should be listed as near human unless they are listed as near-human in some canon source. - JMAS 14:44, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I think I read somewhere that they were near-humans. I'll look into that and let you all know.User:Obi1138 I think I did to. perhaps try Dark Force Rising.

Age listing ?

why isnt the age listed on the little side bar thingie if we already know how long they live? and are there lifespans really tha much shorter than humans!??!does it takes the force into account?

--hicups0002 20:24, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Kikalekki??

  • What's the source for this name and the entire explanation? Thanks! --Sompeetalay 08:59, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Lack of body hair?

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Boc Aseca, as seen in the pictures on the right and the left, has hairy armpits, and a good amount of hair can be seen on his chest. Even if the females' eybrows are artificial, his hairy armpits and chest can't be. --Master Starkeiller 18:00, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

  • I added a mention of Boc's hair in the article. --Master Starkeiller 16:37, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Protected article temporarily

I protected this article temporarily because all that was being added by the anon was every known Twi'lek name and speculation and/or fanon about what that name might mean. It will be automatically unprotected in a week. Greyman(Paratus) 23:46, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Age range?

What's their age range? --Master Starkeiller 16:06, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

According to the Ultimate Alien Anthology: Child 1-12; young adult 13-15; adult 16-44; middle age 45-59; old 60-79; venerable 80+ --Craven 16:31, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Muchas dank. Shouldn't it be added? --Master Starkeiller 18:24, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Article currently contains FANON from peach-tree.org

The information on religion and large parts of their culture is fanon. The source of this fanon is peach-tree.org (site is currently down/pulled?), a fan-source used by roleplayers who like to add additional content to roleplaying a twi'lek. I think the article should be restored immediatly, removing all this fanon as soon as possible. Part of this fanon are the headers CLAN SYSTEM and RELIGION. --Jay-1886 23:45, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

  • I've removed the suspected fanon, though I haven't had a chance to check it out thoroughly myself. Check out [1] to see what i removed. --Azizlight 11:07, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Quote needs sourcing

In which work did Vilmarh say that - let's say - short but true summary? Domlith 18:03, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Ears

I'd like to point out that in the Dead Ends comic in clone wars volume 5 you can see a twi'lek without a head dress in the part in the space port with valoriums assanation and she has human ears.

Star Wars: Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy

Should Jaden Korr be listed as a notable twi'lek? In the game Star Wars: Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy you can choose what species Jaden Korr is. Darth Newdar 13:16, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

What do they eat?

I think fungus but Im not 100 percent sure.Borvo's fan 01:04, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Moving the Lekku

Can Twi'leks move their lekku? Because i never saw Aayla or Bib ever move their likku but i'm reading the Dark Nest series and it says that Alema sometimes "wriggles" or "curls" her lekku but i've never seen/read this before with any other Twi'lek. JediNTT307 19:17, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

  • I've finished the Dark Nest series recently and recall it saying that Alema moves her lekku, as this is a canon source and no you canon source directly says they can't, they can move their lekku, yes - Kingpin13Cantina Battle Ground 19:19, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
    • The Starwars.com databank describes the lekku as prehensile and by definition that means capable of independent movement and more importantly grasping like some forms of monkeys can do with their tails. Cruball