Solo- Skywalker
Isn´t the Solo Family related to the Skywalker Family? 94.114.33.204 20:12, February 11, 2016 (UTC)
- There isn't really a Solo family in canon, just Han, Leia and that "troubled" kid of their's. --Alientraveller (talk) 20:17, February 11, 2016 (UTC)
But Leia is Lukes Sister, so Luke is Hans Brother-in-Law. so that means the Solos are related to the Skywalkers? —Unsigned comment by 94.114.33.204 (talk • contribs)
Padmé and Han Solo?
Do Padmé and Han Solo count as members of Skywalker family? They weren't counted in the entire article -even in the appearances section- except the "affiliations" part. I removed the affiliations about Han and Padmé but the edit was undone.--AnilSerifoglu (talk) 20:44, March 7, 2016 (UTC)
- What an odd question, of course they are, they married into it. And they are in the family tree. The article is laser precision focused on the Skywalker bloodline because it stops it from spiralling into needless digressions about the Naberries and Solo's unnamed parents. --Alientraveller (talk) 20:51, March 7, 2016 (UTC)
- Then, I will add Padmé's and Solo's appearances after marriage to the appearances list. --AnilSerifoglu (talk) 20:58, March 7, 2016 (UTC)
Kylo Ren (born Ben Solo) - wrong cell.
Kylo Ren - a pseudonym. He has his real name. Change please so: Ben Solo(Kylo Ren).—Unsigned comment by 91.215.192.5 (talk • contribs)
- I think it should stay the way it is. After all, he has rejected his birth name Ben Solo and identifies himself with the name Kylo Ren. JRT2010 (talk) 08:21, February 18, 2017 (UTC)
I apologize but there is a special page dedicated to Kylo Ren. He identifies himself with Knights of Ren, ok. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kylo_Ren
And I thought to put a real name in the first place on this page(Skywalker (family)) that users see easily the connection with the rest of the family tree because Ben can change his identity again. Family tree shows bloodline, not a person. Therefore, I beg you to make changes
Title of the page
Really? Why have you got "Skywalker (family)" and "Skywalker family" pages? In my opinion you'd better create "Skywalker family" and "Skywalker family/Legends" articles. — Mustafar29 Dyskusja • Przyjaciele! 19:55, February 22, 2017 (UTC)
- It's unfortunately a matter of policy. So far as we know, there have been no canonical sources that have used the phrase "Skywalker family." Because of that, "Skywalker (family)" was the only way we could create the page. Silly, I know, but unless the community votes to change the naming policies then it is what it is, I'm afraid. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 21:14, February 22, 2017 (UTC)
Force
Should we consider the Force to be the father of Anakin? In my view, it shouldn't be marked in the family three. The Force might give birth, but can't be a parent. @Mustafar29「talk」(he/him/his/hisself) 13:00, March 4, 2018 (UTC)
Skywalker family?
Is the Skywalker family mentioned as such anywhere else besides the Skywalker family tree page in Star Wars Super Graphic: A Visual Guide to a Galaxy Far, Far Away? I don't really think that should count as a 1stID if that's the only place its mentioned. The reveal for Star Wars: Droidography uses Skywalker family, so ultimately this should be moved to Skywalker family/Canon --Lewisr (talk) 03:37, July 14, 2018 (UTC)
- Didn't see this before, but I agree. Can't move it though – the new title is protected from creation. JRT2010 (talk) 23:33, September 17, 2018 (UTC)
- As long as its still in the book (I don't have it so I can't confirm) then we'll have to request a move --Lewisr (talk) 02:54, November 20, 2018 (UTC)
- Its used in Star Wars: Galactic Atlas --Lewisr (talk) 03:01, March 22, 2019 (UTC)
- As long as its still in the book (I don't have it so I can't confirm) then we'll have to request a move --Lewisr (talk) 02:54, November 20, 2018 (UTC)
Parenthesis (Canon vs. Legends)
Why does the Canon article title contain parenthesis, and not the Legends article? Just like most other articles (i.e. characters), can the parenthesis be removed and just have two articles: Skywalker family and Skywalker family/Legends? --Retro Reed (talk) 01:36, February 5, 2019 (UTC)
- When a canon source uses Skywalker family we can move it, until then this will have to do --Lewisr (talk) 01:38, February 5, 2019 (UTC)
- Okay, thank you for your response. --Retro Reed (talk) 19:16, February 9, 2019 (UTC)
Han Solo's father
Could somebody please add him before Han Solo on the family tree with the source Most Wanted? I don't know how to edit family trees. Thank you, --Retro Reed (talk) 23:52, April 10, 2019 (UTC)
- Han Solo's father is not a Skywalker. Han married into the Skywalker family through Leia, but that doesn't make every previous Solo a Skywalker now. Keeper of the Timeline (talk) 16:22, January 19, 2020 (UTC)
- Oh, yeah, just like the Lars family, Amidala family, and Organa family aren't there either. --Rocket Retro Reed (talk) 20:31, January 21, 2020 (UTC)
Honorary members
Should we really be adding "honorary" individuals alongside actual blood members and even in-laws in the infobox and family tree? Rey and Qui-Gon Jinn had a close connection to the Skywalkers, but technically they are not part of the family. It just seems misleading to me. We should certainly mention their connection to the family on the page, but I think the infobox and family tree should be reserved for actual members of the Skywalker family (by blood and by marriage). JRT2010 (talk) 04:54, July 6, 2020 (UTC)
- I'm not quite sure how I feel about this, but I currently sort of agree with you. Although I will say that this is heavily emphasized for Rey in Episode IX; with her taking on the Skywalker surname while the Force spirits of Luke and Leia watch from afar approvingly. I'm not quite sure on the source for Qui-Gon Jinn as I haven't read it, but it does seem to be a bit of a stretch. I'm also curious where the term "honorary member" comes from anyway in the context of Star Wars - is there any canon source for it, or is it something we just use here on Wookieepedia in lieu of something official/canonical? Thanks. Reddyredcp (talk) 05:17, July 6, 2020 (UTC)
- There's no source, that I know of, using the term "honorary member." I think someone put it there as context to explain why Rey was added to the members' list despite not being an actual Skywalker. She did take the name with the blessing of Luke and Leia, per the novelization, but I think it's still a viewer-interpretation to say this makes her part of the family like a blood member or an in-law. It's like considering the Roman emperors after Nero part of the Julio-Claudian dynasty in an honorary capacity because they adopted the family name of Caesar. As for Qui-Gon Jinn, Luke Skywalker states in Star Wars: The Secrets of the Jedi, "While he may not be a Skywalker by blood, Qui-Gon Jinn shares a deep connection to my family's history through the Jedi Order." While I can see how that line can be interpreted as Luke thinking of Qui-Gon as an "honorary Skywalker" it is still an interpretation and not directly stated as such in a canon source. JRT2010 (talk) 05:33, July 6, 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah I agree in both cases in removing both from the tree/infobox --Lewisr (talk) 13:52, July 6, 2020 (UTC)
- While I agree that Qui-Gon is iffy, the context of the TROS novelization rather firmly establishes Rey as a member if the family. The blessing of Luke and Leia should be enough to give her the term "honorary," if not more. RattsT (talk) 19:27, July 6, 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, in the novel Luke says "It's yours, Rey." The name is hers to take, with her masters' blessings, but the family itself became extinct as a result of Ben Solo's death. Adding Rey suggests that the Skywalker family still exists through her, which, without a source specifically stating this, is an interpretation. The novel goes on to say that Rey intended to return to "her family," which I presume to mean her companions Poe, Finn and so on, but I don't think we would add them to the Skywalkers as honorary members through Rey, who considers them her family. I think we need to draw the line at honorary individuals and only count actual blood members as well as in-laws or adoptees who have a legal connection when it comes to family pages. Otherwise there could be arguments to add people like Obi-Wan or Chewbacca, or even the droids, all of whom were very close to the Skywalkers, like Rey and Qui-Gon. JRT2010 (talk) 19:41, July 6, 2020 (UTC)
- None of those individuals were given the name Skywalker though. When Luke gives Rey the confirmation that "Yes, your name is Skywalker," he's passing on his family name to someone else. She becomes a member of the family at that point. Per the junior novelization, "[Luke and Leia] were her family and she was theirs." It's different than her saying Finn and Poe were her family because she very clearly takes the Skywalker name with her, with the full consent of Luke and Leia. Again from the junior novelization, she's not simply calling herself Skywalker, she's taking (and being given) "the family name." RattsT (talk) 20:18, July 6, 2020 (UTC)
- I haven't read the junior novelization yet, but that certainly makes a stronger case for Rey than the expanded edition. It still seems more symbolic than literal, however, as in the family is literally gone but symbolically Rey carries on their legacy. She's not legally being adopted into the family the way Leia, for example, was adopted by the Organas. But given the junior novelization I think it may be appropriate to re-add Rey to the infobox, again as an "honorary member" since she isn't a Skywalker by blood or law. However, I still don't think Rey belongs on the family tree as its purpose is to illustrate blood and marriage (or adoption, in the Organas' case) relations between certain characters. JRT2010 (talk) 20:37, July 6, 2020 (UTC)
- None of those individuals were given the name Skywalker though. When Luke gives Rey the confirmation that "Yes, your name is Skywalker," he's passing on his family name to someone else. She becomes a member of the family at that point. Per the junior novelization, "[Luke and Leia] were her family and she was theirs." It's different than her saying Finn and Poe were her family because she very clearly takes the Skywalker name with her, with the full consent of Luke and Leia. Again from the junior novelization, she's not simply calling herself Skywalker, she's taking (and being given) "the family name." RattsT (talk) 20:18, July 6, 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, in the novel Luke says "It's yours, Rey." The name is hers to take, with her masters' blessings, but the family itself became extinct as a result of Ben Solo's death. Adding Rey suggests that the Skywalker family still exists through her, which, without a source specifically stating this, is an interpretation. The novel goes on to say that Rey intended to return to "her family," which I presume to mean her companions Poe, Finn and so on, but I don't think we would add them to the Skywalkers as honorary members through Rey, who considers them her family. I think we need to draw the line at honorary individuals and only count actual blood members as well as in-laws or adoptees who have a legal connection when it comes to family pages. Otherwise there could be arguments to add people like Obi-Wan or Chewbacca, or even the droids, all of whom were very close to the Skywalkers, like Rey and Qui-Gon. JRT2010 (talk) 19:41, July 6, 2020 (UTC)
- While I agree that Qui-Gon is iffy, the context of the TROS novelization rather firmly establishes Rey as a member if the family. The blessing of Luke and Leia should be enough to give her the term "honorary," if not more. RattsT (talk) 19:27, July 6, 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah I agree in both cases in removing both from the tree/infobox --Lewisr (talk) 13:52, July 6, 2020 (UTC)
- There's no source, that I know of, using the term "honorary member." I think someone put it there as context to explain why Rey was added to the members' list despite not being an actual Skywalker. She did take the name with the blessing of Luke and Leia, per the novelization, but I think it's still a viewer-interpretation to say this makes her part of the family like a blood member or an in-law. It's like considering the Roman emperors after Nero part of the Julio-Claudian dynasty in an honorary capacity because they adopted the family name of Caesar. As for Qui-Gon Jinn, Luke Skywalker states in Star Wars: The Secrets of the Jedi, "While he may not be a Skywalker by blood, Qui-Gon Jinn shares a deep connection to my family's history through the Jedi Order." While I can see how that line can be interpreted as Luke thinking of Qui-Gon as an "honorary Skywalker" it is still an interpretation and not directly stated as such in a canon source. JRT2010 (talk) 05:33, July 6, 2020 (UTC)
Family tree
Recently some people have tried adding Rey Skywalker to the family tree presumably because she adopted the name and was mentored by Luke and Leia. I feel that she should be kept off of the family tree as its purpose is to show the relationships between people in several generations of a family. Rey is not a Skywalker by blood, marriage, or legal adoption. Ergo, she does not belong on this particular genealogical tree the way she would on the Palpatine family tree. It should also be noted that Rey is not included in the Skywalker family tree in The Star Wars Book. If anyone feels that Rey should be on the Skywalker family tree, it should be discussed here on the talk page before another attempt is made. JRT2010 (talk) 21:36, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
Extinction of Family Name
On the side bar, can we change "Extinction of Family Name" to "Extinction of Family Line" as the name lives on (Rey), it was only the bloodline that died.Hotgreencarpet (talk) 17:48, 29 October 2023 (UTC)